KTM 1190 Adventure R: First Look!

[R Doug]

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/ktm-1190-adventure--official-pic/21430.html


from Visor Down:

IT was perhaps a fortuitous 'accident' that on the very day Ducati revealed its updated, 2013-spec Multistrada, the firm's Austrian rival KTM briefly posted an official image of that bike's most obvious rival on its own website.

Quickly grabbed by the ADVRider forum, even though the image was taken down by KTM it's been impossible to put the cat back in the bag. Although after endless spy shots and even a road test of a prototype by German magazine Motorrad, the bag's been untied with the cat coming and going as it pleases for some time now.

What's really new here is a glimpse of the final paint scheme – orange, of course – and a few specs. With 148bhp (150PS) it's bang on Multistrada pace, while the weight, at 235kg wet, is pretty close to the Multistrada Touring's 220kg.

With four “driving modes”, traction control, multi-mode ABS, ride-by-wire and an adjustable windscreen also revealed, it looks like it's got the gizmos to rival Ducati, too.



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[R Doug]

larger more detailed image.  

[SLK50]

How much you asking for the RT?

[R Doug]

I am highly suspect of their "tubeless" wheels.  

[garry]

The regular version with 17/19 tubeless wire spoke wheels is interesting. Lots lighter (per specs) than the Triumph Explorer XC. Hmmm....

[Hambonee]

Looks like they crossed the Supermoto T with the Adventure..gawd that looks sweet.  

[SalsaShark]

ZOMG!!! It's got Doppelzündung!!!




ummmm... what's doppelzündung?




i keed... Seriously, I'd love to tour on this thing. I'll bet it's going to be an absolute blast.

[ConPilot1]

Amazing how low-tech the frames look in these bikes.

Lots of fasteners in the frame.

[DogBoy]

I think you're looking at how the crash guards attach. The frame looks pretty slick.

[sammyseaman]

Amazing how low-tech the frames look in these bikes.

Lots of fasteners in the frame.

  Ya stupid wanker! See this:

I think you're looking at how the crash guards attach. The frame looks pretty slick.

[black hills]

While I like it, I hope the have a more "adventure" oriented model as well. The low exhaust and apparently small fuel capacity defeats the purpose of a real adventure bike..

[staedtler]

[Kneescrubber]

I am highly suspect of their "tubeless" wheels.  

 

BMW has been doing it for years.

[black hills]

great if you have factory support and can replace a pipe every night if need be. for us mortals, not such a great design

[R Doug]

 

BMW has been doing it for years.

Yes, but they (and Yamaha) do it right.  That is, they do not have the spokes going through the middle of the wheel.  They both use a lip on the outside of the wheel which the spokes connect.  Looking at the large image above and the detail of KTM's tubeless wheels, they appear to be using some sort of an internal seal which has never worked.  

Here's how BMW does it.

[DogBoy]

I hear the Alpinas tubeless spoke wheels work well. Maybe KTM's wheel is similar.

[wilmar13]

Wow... I wish this bike was on the horizon when I bought a 2012 RC8R earlier this year... I probably would have limped along with my Daytona 955i another year.

[wilmar13]

Backing it in on a sporty adventure bike... this bike looks awesome. A MTS with real gravel road ability!

[Rincewind]

Looking great, thanks for all the pics.    

http://www.ktm.com/us/travel/1190-adventure-eu/highlights.html#.UHK71FHZ3ng

[garry]

The regular 1190 Adventure is sitting firmly at the top of my "short list". It has everything I'm looking for in my next street bike. I wonder what it is going to list at in the USA?

[alphabet man]

I have a friend  that owns a recreation retail store that sells KTM,   for the first time ever KTM cooperate is taking some select retailers to Austria for demo rides, can't wait for his opinion/report he is an extremly aggresive rider with a long history of dirt racing his perspective will be intersting. Sadly I am not a good enough friend to tag along and carry his bags. But the Multi will probably be for sale in the spring  

[crispiegee1]

I always liked the idea of a small adventure tourer, such as the BMW F800GS, but when Triumph announced the Tiger 800, it meant that I could have the sound of a triple in an adventure bike. Perfect!  

Then the Tiger Explorer was announced, with shaft drive!   The tradeoff was more weight and an engine bigger than I need.

This KTM, aside from having way more engine than necessary (for me), seems to have eviscerated the competition: Much less weight, more than enough horsepower AND shaft drive. If it doesn't cost $20k and my feet can touch the ground, it will definitely be my top choice.

[garry]

This KTM, aside from having way more engine than necessary (for me), seems to have eviscerated the competition: Much less weight, more than enough horsepower AND shaft drive. If it doesn't cost $20k and my feet can touch the ground, it will definitely be my top choice.

Look closer at the photos. No shaft drive on the KTM. And I'm fine with that as I change the gearing on every bike I've owned (always geared too tall).

[DogBoy]

I see a chain.

[crispiegee1]

Look closer at the photos. No shaft drive on the KTM. And I'm fine with that as I change the gearing on every bike I've owned (always geared too tall).

I'm so bummed. I really had looked and didn't see a chain. I hate chains... I've had to do so much adjust of my latest chain on my Yamaha that I'm sick of it.

I still love the KTM, but I have to ponder how I'll be using it. If it rarely goes off road, will I really mind the extra 60 pounds of a Triumph Tiger Explorer? Or should I save another 35 pounds, stick with a chain and get the Tiger 800XC at just 470 pounds. The KTM has all the cool suspension technology, plus, it appears that it will be aggressively priced for such a capable bike.

[Kraz]

I still love the KTM, but I have to ponder how I'll be using it. If it rarely goes off road, will I really mind the extra 60 pounds of a Triumph Tiger Explorer? Or should I save another 35 pounds, stick with a chain and get the Tiger 800XC at just 470 pounds. The KTM has all the cool suspension technology, plus, it appears that it will be aggressively priced for such a capable bike.

I dunno if it matters to you, but the price delta b/w the Tiger 800XC and this monstrosity will probably not be slight...  I'd say price, weight, reliability and ease of maintenance all go to the Triumph.  If you want a huge, heavy, shaft-driven Adv bike for occasional hard pack trails and gravel, I'd point to the Stelvio... or you're fine with the Explorer.

[black hills]

I'm so bummed. I really had looked and didn't see a chain. I hate chains... I've had to do so much adjust of my latest chain on my Yamaha that I'm sick of it.

I still love the KTM, but I have to ponder how I'll be using it. If it rarely goes off road, will I really mind the extra 60 pounds of a Triumph Tiger Explorer? Or should I save another 35 pounds, stick with a chain and get the Tiger 800XC at just 470 pounds. The KTM has all the cool suspension technology, plus, it appears that it will be aggressively priced for such a capable bike.

no point in the KTM if youare not going off road. Off road is where they shine, there are far better choices for road use