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« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2012, 09:34:23 AM »
The new nose/headlights look abbreviated and stubby... the fairing looks like an amalgamation of a few different design ideas (like the Suzuki SV1000 full fairing option a while back)... me no likey. Thumbsdown

Yeah, we really need the BROWN paint option.


I'm sure it's a great bike, though.  Bigsmile
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« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2012, 09:34:23 AM »
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« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2012, 09:57:11 AM »
Revised version of same bike.... too bad, I was really hoping for something new. With the new BMW 1600 and rumors of the Concours getting a version of the new zx14 motor I think Yamaha didnt go far enough to reclaim top dog status in the ST class.
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« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2012, 10:39:39 AM »
Quote from: Flying W on October 08, 2012, 09:57:11 AM

and rumors of the Concours getting a version of the new zx14 motor


I think those rumors all come directly from the farts on the various Concours forums.  I don't see any reason for them to do that and predict bold new colors for at least the next 10 years.
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« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2012, 12:11:00 PM »
Quote from: Flying W on October 08, 2012, 09:57:11 AM

Revised version of same bike.... too bad, I was really hoping for something new. With the new BMW 1600 and rumors of the Concours getting a version of the new zx14 motor I think Yamaha didnt go far enough to reclaim top dog status in the ST class.


Realistically, what does the bike *NEED* that it doesn't have?

Show your work.

Be prepared for me to say "why" on every point.

Impress me.
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« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2012, 01:31:32 PM »
Quote from: Carbonero on October 08, 2012, 12:11:00 PM



Realistically, what does the bike *NEED* that it doesn't have?

Show your work.

Be prepared for me to say "why" on every point.

Impress me.


Better suspension.

Better heat management.

That's it.
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« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2012, 01:34:35 PM »
Quote from: Carbonero on October 08, 2012, 12:11:00 PM



Realistically, what does the bike *NEED* that it doesn't have?

Show your work.

Be prepared for me to say "why" on every point.

Impress me.


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Everything else is gravy, including a 6th gear on the FJR. Lol
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« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2012, 01:44:17 PM »
Quote from: Smoker on October 08, 2012, 01:31:32 PM



Better suspension.

Better heat management.

That's it.


Agreed. Though the gen-2 (and presumably this new gen-3 model) is a little better sorted on the heat thing.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2012, 02:23:02 PM »
Quote from: Carbonero on October 08, 2012, 01:44:17 PM



Agreed. Though the gen-2 (and presumably this new gen-3 model) is a little better sorted on the heat thing.  Thumbsup


They're also touting revised suspension settings on both the A & S models. As it is, I don't get the complaint. The stock bike already has  adjustable preload and rebound/compression front and rear as it is. It's also got a wide range of adjustment from the factory. I've got a full Ohlins setup on mine by Cogent Dynamics. It's awesome, but that's only because the original suspension went 65,000 miles before it needed to be rebuilt. What exactly do you mean by 'better suspension'. Perhaps you should learn how to properly setup a suspension first?

As far as heat goes, I've got a Gen 1 which is supposed to be the heat. Ya, I notice it when it's 90F+, but then again, I notice it at those temps on my CBR250 too. The upside is when you live 'up north', having a bike that throws a bit of heat is a good thing Bigsmile

It's evolutionary, not revolutionary. The basic package was just fine. It doesn't need a 6th gear, and an extra 100cc? Why? Otherwise they gave it the features and tweaked what needed to be tweaked (incidently, some of the literature mentions revised gear ratios 'for smoother hwy cruising'. I'm reading that 5th and maybe even 4th have tweaked slightly.

I like the GenIII, lets just hope they fixed the damn electrical on it! If they did, I'm in. Otherwise, I'll be looking for another Gen 1 and move all my mods over.
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« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2012, 04:34:31 PM »
Quote from: Carbonero on October 08, 2012, 01:44:17 PM



Agreed. Though the gen-2 (and presumably this new gen-3 model) is a little better sorted on the heat thing.  Thumbsup


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Quote from: bungie4 on October 08, 2012, 02:23:02 PM

What exactly do you mean by 'better suspension'. Perhaps you should learn how to properly setup a suspension first?

As far as heat goes, I've got a Gen 1 which is supposed to be the heat. Ya, I notice it when it's 90F+, but then again, I notice it at those temps on my CBR250 too. The upside is when you live 'up north', having a bike that throws a bit of heat is a good thing Bigsmile


I've spent many hours trying to get the rear where I like it. I set the sag, then go for a ride and adjust by how it feels. Maybe I'm not doing it right, but I'm at 42K miles on the bike, with 24K on a second OEM shock, and it's starting to wallow again. Had the forks rebuilt with heavier weight once already, it's ok. I just can't seem to get the rear set up properly. If you have suggestions above that, I'm all ears. Thumbsup

As far as heat, I've got the Gen I as well, and at anything above 93* or so I've just conceded to parking it till it cools down a bit. I took my wife for a ride on her birthday in July, it was 97* when we left for breakfast and 102* when we pulled in the driveway, I had red burn marks on my inner thigh from the tank burning through my riding pants. Not my idea of a good time.
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« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2012, 05:01:00 PM »
Quote from: Carbonero on October 08, 2012, 01:44:17 PM



Agreed. Though the gen-2 (and presumably this new gen-3 model) is a little better sorted on the heat thing.  Thumbsup


someone didn't say "why"...    Bigsmile
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« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2012, 07:10:08 PM »
Quote from: 1KPerDay on October 08, 2012, 09:34:23 AM


Yeah, we really need the BROWN paint option.



What? That color looked great on the '82 Volvo that it came off of.
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« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2012, 10:13:20 PM »
I like the brown one better than the bland silver one.

And if you call it 'Candy Rootbeer Metalflake' it's retro.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #72 on: October 09, 2012, 04:29:13 AM »
I'm really liking the idea of cruise control. Being able to rest my arm might enable me to start riding further again. And the color is fine to me. I've had a truck that was a very similar color, it didn't show dust, and changed hue under different light in a cool way. It isn't an exciting color, no, but I don't think it sucks.
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« Reply #73 on: October 09, 2012, 07:29:22 AM »
Quote from: 2RR2NV on October 08, 2012, 05:01:00 PM



someone didn't say "why"...    Bigsmile


Dammit.  

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What? That color looked great on the '82 Volvo that it came off of.


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« Reply #74 on: October 10, 2012, 05:24:00 AM »
Quote from: JReazor on October 08, 2012, 07:10:08 PM



What? That color looked great on the '82 Volvo that it came off of.


and here i thought it came off the ole '82(?) diesel Chevette
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« Reply #75 on: October 10, 2012, 06:58:51 AM »
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« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2012, 07:26:22 AM »
well if you read Diesel mags, one of them had a diesel chevette painted like the FJR. Icky poo.  Lol
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« Reply #77 on: October 10, 2012, 11:10:47 AM »
Quote from: coho on October 08, 2012, 10:13:20 PM

I like the brown one better than the bland silver one.

And if you call it 'Candy Rootbeer Metalflake' it's retro.  Thumbsup


Hard Candy Rootbeer Metalflake.
But then it would also have a 6 speed transmission....
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« Reply #78 on: October 10, 2012, 11:56:17 AM »
As far as the grey/silver color goes, I read the summary of a study that was done several years ago about silver/grey being the top of the list for accidents out of all auto/bike colors available.
Blends in with weathered asphalt/concrete/drab skies too much, and is the least noticeable color visually.
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« Reply #79 on: October 10, 2012, 12:20:52 PM »
Quote from: ConPilot1 on October 10, 2012, 11:56:17 AM

As far as the grey/silver color goes, I read the summary of a study that was done several years ago about silver/grey being the top of the list for accidents out of all auto/bike colors available.
Blends in with weathered asphalt/concrete/drab skies too much, and is the least noticeable color visually.




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