2013 FJR1300 revealed

[coho]

Put TW200 pegs on it. They're only half as long.
It's all Yamaha, so it should work, right?

[Mac]

Body positioning would pay bigger dividends than grinding your pegs away.

Yeah, but the street cred wouldn't be there for all to see.

[falconati]

If the high-vis vest doesn't scream street cred...

[Carbonero]

Hmmm, yeah probably.  I was also thinking able doing something about the pegs themselves. I really like them but a thinner peg or grinding off some aluminum would also net me a few centimeters.

Grinding hard parts is a clear indication that the rider needs more work than the bike does.

[Silverbird]

On an FJR with lowered pegs?  

If you are talking about hanging off like this asshole, forget it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvBGh2b5WSU

[Carbonero]

On an FJR with lowered pegs?  

If you are talking about hanging off like this asshole, forget it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvBGh2b5WSU

I didn't realize you lowered the pegs. But yes, body position makes all the difference. It's physics.

I didn't watch the video, but moving your weight inside the center line will help considerably.

Here's an example where the guy isn't "hanging off like an asshole", but still has all of his body inside the centerline.

[Silverbird]

I did a couple of things. First I put the shock on the hard setting, this didn't allow the bike to handle as well for my 160lbs, but it did make it quite a bit harder for the pegs to touch down.  Then I took the same road and didn't move my butt, but I did move my upper body to the inside of the corner and this seemed to help almost as much as changing the shock.

So I learned that an aftermarket shock with just a little bit of length added to it + a little rider input and I'll be pretty well happy with the handling of this bike.  As for moving my butt around like in full-on sportbike mode, I understand why but people that do that on the street, but IMO they look stupid and need to save that crap for the track, especially those assholes that stick their knees out...I mean come on people, it's called a trackday.

[dorklord]

I did a couple of things. First I put the shock on the hard setting, this didn't allow the bike to handle as well for my 160lbs, but it did make it quite a bit harder for the pegs to touch down.  Then I took the same road and didn't move my butt, but I did move my upper body to the inside of the corner and this seemed to help almost as much as changing the shock.

So I learned that an aftermarket shock with just a little bit of length added to it + a little rider input and I'll be pretty well happy with the handling of this bike.  As for moving my butt around like in full-on sportbike mode, I understand why but people that do that on the street, but IMO they look stupid and need to save that crap for the track, especially those assholes that stick their knees out...I mean come on people, it's called a trackday.

I'd say leaning the bike until you drag parts should be saved for the track more so than using body positioning...

[Carbonero]

I did a couple of things. First I put the shock on the hard setting, this didn't allow the bike to handle as well for my 160lbs, but it did make it quite a bit harder for the pegs to touch down.  Then I took the same road and didn't move my butt, but I did move my upper body to the inside of the corner and this seemed to help almost as much as changing the shock.

So I learned that an aftermarket shock with just a little bit of length added to it + a little rider input and I'll be pretty well happy with the handling of this bike.  As for moving my butt around like in full-on sportbike mode, I understand why but people that do that on the street, but IMO they look stupid and need to save that crap for the track, especially those assholes that stick their knees out...I mean come on people, it's called a trackday.

Then you're artificially limiting your riding performance potential for the sake of aesthetic.

Body position is a known way to reduce a bike's need to lean. It works.

[R Doug]

, I understand why but people that do that on the street, but IMO they look stupid and need to save that crap for the track, especially those assholes that stick their knees out...I mean come on people, it's called a trackday.

I'm one of those assholes and I do it on my RT when I need to.  Body positioning creates a lean angle reserve and helps my bike corner better.  Do I do it all the time?  No.  Do I use it when I'm feeling friskie and want to take corners above the "advisory" speeds but still 75% of what I would do on a track.  Yes.

If someone is dragging hard bits on the road and the rider isn’t making any effort to help avoid it via body positioning, one should fix the rider before trying to fix the bike.  

[Cablebandit]

You can't teach someone who isn't willing, or open, to learning.  

[Silverbird]

WTH? Why do you assume I don't know proper body positioning? I'm just pointing out it shouldn't be necessary to hang off while riding at safe and sane speeds on the street.  

Now, if I was stiff-arming it and sitting on top of it like a Supermoto and refusing to learn good form then yeah, but give me a break. That guy on the ^ GSXR is leaning off and wasting all that energy for nothing on the street. Excellent form for the track, but last I checked they are very different places.   We are still talking about FJR's right? Bikes to tour on? Ride for weeks on end? My sportbike days are over and I'm willing to compromise, so just like I said earlier, those pegs are super low but all it took was some increased ride height (HARDLY uncommon) and some inside shoulder input to fix the problem  

[Windblown]

In stock trim the FJR has never had stellar ground clearance for a "sport-touring" machine so I tend to side with Silverbird on this one. Body position might not be the issue.  

My '05 would touch down the pegs even with me hanging my 175lbs off the bike like a monkey. With even lower pegs I could see where it could be a serious issue at anything above a slightly spirited pace in the twisty bits.  Raising the rear would sharpen the steering a bit as well, might all work out quite well. hard to say without trying it.

As to the 2013 FJR? Looks purty damn sweet I say. I will make a point of NOT stopping by the local Yamaha dealer. I've been known to be an impulse buyer and simply have other cash intensive priorities right now. LOL

[glory racing]

Lean angle discussions are the best!!!

[2RR2NV]

i didn't like the looks of it online, but then i went to a dealer back home this past vacation and there it was... dang that looked nice. but $16k?  OUCH!!!!  not for me.

[Cablebandit]

Who pays sticker?  I'm sure you could get it out the door for less than 14k

[2RR2NV]

Who pays sticker?  I'm sure you could get it out the door for less than 14k

doubt it. when i was looking for my FJR, i tried dealing with the locals in RC, SD and they said that there was no dealing cause they knew someone would come along and buy it for that price. i was actually thinking about going down to Alabama to pick one up and ride it back. i finally settled on a used 07 for 9500.

[dj313]

Check out D&H Cycle in Cullman, Alabama.  Fly in, ride out.  Once they get more in, their deal is VERY sweeeet!  

[2RR2NV]

i think (if memory serves me right - once in a while it works) that that was the dealership i going to deal with. if i had had the time back then, i would have gone for it since it was still cheaper to fly and ride back to SD. but the wife wasn't too keen on me riding the bike that far by myself. no biggie. i'm finding out that she does not like hardbags on a sportier bike than a GW.

[FantasticJapaneseRocket]

I'd buy a leftover 12 if it was me.

The new FJR is nice but it's too much like the same bike.

Different fairing/windscreen.
Cruise control (with a top speed of 80 that has everyone complaining)
Different spring on the shock
Sport Mode/Touring Mode switch (don't see the point in this, I choose Sport or Touring with my right hand)
Different guages.

Other than that it's the same bike!