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« Reply #60 on: October 12, 2012, 07:22:25 AM »
PS:  Yeah, I do want to see that motor put into a new ST model.   Thumbsup Thumbsup

I just can't see BMW going that route...which is a real bummer.
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« Reply #61 on: October 12, 2012, 09:11:16 PM »
Quote from: Lawn Dart on October 12, 2012, 07:21:12 AM

Get on one and you truly feel like you can go anywhere...and you somehow want to explore it as well.


I would say that's true about the entire R series range. I certainly feel that on the R12S. Of course some of that is you bastards....   Lol

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« Reply #62 on: October 12, 2012, 10:25:38 PM »
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I would say that's true about the entire R series range. I certainly feel that on the R12S. Of course some of that is you bastards....   Lol

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« Reply #63 on: October 13, 2012, 05:01:17 AM »
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« Reply #64 on: October 26, 2012, 04:25:47 PM »
Apparently, BMW wants to be Ducati. Good luck, sausage boys. Razz
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« Reply #65 on: October 27, 2012, 07:23:06 AM »


..sausage boys.  Bigsmile
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« Reply #66 on: October 27, 2012, 09:48:43 AM »
Quote from: JonS on October 26, 2012, 04:25:47 PM

Apparently, BMW wants to be Ducati. Good luck, sausage boys. Razz


Other than an ugly cruiser (Diavel), BMW models are superior to Ducati ones; R1200GS vs Multistrada, S1000RR vs 1199, R1200R/F800R vs Monster, and Ducati has nothing to compete with the K1600GT & GTL.  BMW even makes a true dualsport as well.  The Hypermotard is a nice bike, but not even the best Italian one.  I have owned both brands and if given a choice I'd pick a BMW over a Ducati again any day.
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« Reply #67 on: October 28, 2012, 09:03:09 PM »
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Other than an ugly cruiser (Diavel), BMW models are superior to Ducati ones; R1200GS vs Multistrada, S1000RR vs 1199, R1200R/F800R vs Monster, and Ducati has nothing to compete with the K1600GT & GTL.  BMW even makes a true dualsport as well.  The Hypermotard is a nice bike, but not even the best Italian one.  I have owned both brands and if given a choice I'd pick a BMW over a Ducati again any day.


Sorry the Multi1200 and the R1200GS are in different classes.  On the road the Multi spanks the BMW everywhere.  Off road...the GS works better.
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« Reply #68 on: October 29, 2012, 05:25:21 AM »
Quote from: Mr Sunshine on October 28, 2012, 09:03:09 PM



Sorry the Multi1200 and the R1200GS are in different classes.  On the road the Multi spanks the BMW everywhere.  Off road...the GS works better.


True, but the Multi is Ducati's "adventure bike".  That's according to their own ad hype.  Like I said I've owned a Ducati and am still an active member in a Ducati Owners Club, but I'll never own another one. It was a good bike, but I'm happier in the BMW camp.  Maybe one day that'll change, but I doubt it.  I'd be more inclined to buy another aprilia.
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« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2012, 10:59:35 AM »
Since they dropped the ST3 and ST4, Ducati has nothing that competes with the R1200RT, either.

But sausage boys is still pretty funny.   Lol
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« Reply #70 on: October 29, 2012, 01:49:42 PM »
Quote from: sagerat on October 29, 2012, 10:59:35 AM

Since they dropped the ST3 and ST4, Ducati has nothing that competes with the R1200RT, either.

But sausage boys is still pretty funny.   Lol


True, its cute, but I feel bad for the Pasta weenies.  Jealousy is an ugly creature.   Lol
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« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2012, 09:14:56 PM »
Quote from: Royal Tiger on October 29, 2012, 05:25:21 AM



True, but the Multi is Ducati's "adventure bike".  That's according to their own ad hype.  Like I said I've owned a Ducati and am still an active member in a Ducati Owners Club, but I'll never own another one. It was a good bike, but I'm happier in the BMW camp.  Maybe one day that'll change, but I doubt it.  I'd be more inclined to buy another aprilia.


No the Multistrada is a "multiple road" bike.  That doesn't mean Adventure.
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« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2012, 09:15:35 PM »
Quote from: sagerat on October 29, 2012, 10:59:35 AM

Since they dropped the ST3 and ST4, Ducati has nothing that competes with the R1200RT, either.

But sausage boys is still pretty funny.   Lol


Unless you want a two up bike...the Multi again.
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« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2012, 11:00:21 PM »
Quote from: Royal Tiger on October 11, 2012, 03:38:39 PM



Agreed.  I'm a former water cooled Porsche owner myself (928S).  But when you are in the middle of nowhere, not having a blown radiator hose or seized water pump are attributes.


Yeah, but getting stuck in bumper to bumper traffic can sure be a drag without a radiator. I guess you just have to think about the most likely or important circumstance for your personal needs.
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« Reply #74 on: November 22, 2012, 06:40:32 AM »
Quote from: highside on November 21, 2012, 11:00:21 PM



Yeah, but getting stuck in bumper to bumper traffic can sure be a drag without a radiator. I guess you just have to think about the most likely or important circumstance for your personal needs.


What is this "getting stuck in bumper to bumper traffic" that you speak of? Why not just ride between the cars?

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« Reply #75 on: November 23, 2012, 06:00:17 AM »
Quote from: james_g on November 22, 2012, 06:40:32 AM



What is this "getting stuck in bumper to bumper traffic" that you speak of? Why not just between the cars?

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« Reply #76 on: November 23, 2012, 09:02:38 AM »
I got to see this one in person last week at the San Mateo IMS.

It's a sweet bike. Very low COG - as is typical with the BMW twins, it feels much lighter than it is. I can certainly see where this would make an excellent "one bike to do it all".

I can't wait to see the GSA version (I hear it's going to be 2014).
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