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« on: October 17, 2012, 03:45:19 AM »

This is a mini-documentary a bit over 11 minutes. I'll do an embed below, but you really should click-through to youtube and run 1080p full screen with sufficient volume to follow along.

No matter if you're into straight-line speed or not, if you watch this whole thing and don't have a big 'ol grin on your face through most of it, eh...you're just not really 'that' into 'motorcycles' ...    Twofinger

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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 04:42:31 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2012, 05:09:33 AM »

Can't really say it's a $300 motorcycle if he fully restored it.  Headscratch
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2012, 05:24:09 AM »


Can't really say it's a $300 motorcycle if he fully restored it.  Headscratch


Glad you enjoyed the vid...  Razz
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2012, 06:01:24 AM »

Great video!   I dont live too far from the racing out there. I always make a point to stop out each year. It feels like the last form of "real" racing that the factories have not ruined.  Good, honest, hardworking people racign anything that moves.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2012, 07:02:58 AM »


Glad you enjoyed the vid...  Razz


Well, he kept raving about his $300 bike...which I'm sure he had more than $300 into.

And what was with that huge guy with the beard?  EEK!

Didn't half those people know that the weight of the rider affects the max speed of their run?
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2012, 07:16:46 AM »

I loves me some Viffer.  I'll have to watch that video later.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2012, 07:49:36 AM »


Can't really say it's a $300 motorcycle if he fully restored it.  Headscratch


Got a bit of bike envy huh?
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2012, 08:12:06 AM »

That was fun  Bigok
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2012, 08:38:27 AM »

New item to the bucket list, run my old GSX1100F at Bonneville.  That just looks like WAY too much fun.
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2012, 09:16:28 AM »


Got a bit of bike envy huh?


I know how much I paid for mine...

...I prefer not to think about how much more I've put into it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2012, 09:23:08 AM »




Glad you enjoyed the vid...  Razz


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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2012, 09:23:22 AM »




I know how much I paid for mine...

...I prefer not to think about how much more I've put into it.


Haha, indeed. I have a couple bikes like that...

Just kidding you...
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2012, 09:31:48 AM »

Fun vid - great post.

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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2012, 10:18:20 AM »

I want to run at bonneville....

Cool vid  Wink
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2012, 10:56:50 AM »



Didn't half those people know that the weight of the rider affects the max speed of their run?
It does? How? More frontal area?
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2012, 11:18:41 AM »


It does? How? More frontal area?


 Thumbsup  with the same drag coefficient weght makes no difference other than the time it takes to get to speed Wink
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2012, 11:34:16 AM »


It does? How? More frontal area?


Weight = lost power.  Ideally, every ounce you can strip off the bike and rider = more power into pushing to faster velocities.

I'd think an overweight rider would rob the bike of it's full potential.
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2012, 11:37:34 AM »

Mass has a small affect on top speed.  Drop a 10 ton rock and a feather on the moon.  Which one hits the ground first due to the acceleration of gravity?  Both.

Top speed is mainly a function of hp, aerodynamics, and cross sectional area.

Acceleration is a function of mass.  Let me introduce you to Mr. Newton.  F = ma  Lol

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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2012, 11:52:33 AM »

The world speed record is held by the Thrust SSC ( a very heavy machine) one of its top competitors is craig breedlove's Spirit (which takes a lighter weight approach). in top speed racing areo dynamics are far more imprtant than weight. Per a truck driving friend, a box trailer rig will top out at the same speed full or empty on level ground. the loaded one just takes more time to get to that speed.
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2012, 12:41:47 PM »

I have a friend whose team is a world record holder at Bonneville. For the most part drag and traction are the biggest gains. In fact they add weight to the car to ballast it and gain traction and handling over 200 MPH. It's a different world of 200 MPH, and there isn't a lot of traction on the salt. You literally hydroplane on the wake of salt the builds up on the leading edge of the tires, because it can't dissipate at the higher speeds. If you watch the amount of steering input at speed, it's incredible. The same amount on pavement would turn you 90 degrees in a heartbeat.  

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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2012, 12:44:25 PM »

My CBR spins the tire at 4000rpm in 4th on the salt, I was amazed at how slippery it is. A friend is part of a world record team (272mph on a bike) and he said 10% wheel spin is about the average at speed?  here is an article about Joe.  the guy he mentions at the end (Stacey) is an interesting guy, I have a beer with him a couple times a month..

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/287/5330/Motorcycle-Article/Salt-Addiction-Joe-Amo.aspx

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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2012, 02:21:46 PM »




Weight = lost power.

umm....  Headscratch
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2012, 02:23:11 PM »



umm....  Headscratch


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Weight = lost power.  Ideally, every ounce you can strip off the bike and rider = more power into pushing to faster velocities.

I'd think an overweight rider would rob the bike of it's full potential.


Only because an overweight rider = bigger = less aerodynamic.
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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2012, 08:21:44 PM »

well, if Jabba the Hut was riding, guess it would go a lot slower.  Lol Lol
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well, if Jabba the Hut was riding, guess it would go a lot slower.  Lol Lol

His flabby, slimy tail would add quite a bit of drag, I suspect.
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Weight = lost power.  Ideally, every ounce you can strip off the bike and rider = more power into pushing to faster velocities.

I'd think an overweight rider would rob the bike of it's full potential.


At Bonneville, on OUR bikes, my brother and I found that he could get slightly better top speeds than me. He weighs probably 15 pounds less than me.

But more weight isn't necessarily a bad thing. A lot of people at Bonneville put lead ballast in/on the swingarm (seriously!) in order to reduce wheel skip and be able to more efficiently put power down to the salt surface.

The best pure way to go fast there is to make your bike as aerodynamically slippery as possible. There are naturally aspirated 600 cc bikes running over 190+.... but they always have extremely customized fiberglass bodywork. And not every class allows custom bodywork either.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2012, 01:12:57 PM »

I need me some of those PITAP slips around here... Bigok
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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2012, 01:06:17 AM »

Nice video! Thanks for sharing.

Love the title of the thread! I don't want to ruin the ending for those who didn't see it yet!
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