Welcome to ST.N
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email?
May 19, 2013, 01:14:17 AM
"If you're going to lead, then lead. If you're going to follow, get the hell out of my way!"
Home
Forums
Photo Gallery
Login
Register
Shop @ MG.C
Shop @ ST.N
Contact
Sport-Touring.Net
»
The Club House
»
Manufacturer Row
»
BMW
» Topic:
Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
Pages:
1
2
[
All
]
Go Down
Print
Topic: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich? (Read 1892 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
sagerat
Ural Tourist; BMW R1200GS Adventure
Reputation 7
Offline
GPS: Central Orygun
Miles Typed: 5451
My Photo Gallery
Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
on:
October 31, 2012, 12:59:25 PM »
Getting ready for last fill up of the year on my GSA before winter hits. Fuel bars, I'm down to one but still no low fuel light has come on. Still, I'm at 332 miles on the tank and decide, let's just go find a gas station and fill, even though fuel computer claims I have 161 miles of range left.
Uh, no. I pull up to the pump and put 9.05 gallons into the tank after 338 miles. More like I had about 161 meters left as the GSA supposedly only holds 9 gallons.
Really, BMW, you can't figure out an accurate gas gauge or fuel strip? What's wrong with a float? Thank gawd I've just learned to use the trip meter and look for gas about 320 miles, normally.
Argh.
Logged
The poster formerly known as VFRfan
Money can buy motorcycles, which means money can buy happiness
Members, please
login
to hide this ad.
Guests, please
register
to hide this ad.
Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
on:
October 31, 2012, 12:59:25 PM »
Logged
miles
Reputation 42
Offline
Years Contributed: '07, '08, '09, '10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: A green one.
Miles Typed: 12345
My Photo Gallery
fusil en mano, espero mi final
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #1 on:
October 31, 2012, 01:16:26 PM »
My S1000RR's gauge is absolutely spot on. The moment the countdown gets to zero the bike stalls and dies.
Logged
Dicen el matador me esta buscando
Royal Tiger
Reputation -207
Offline
Motorcycles: 2005 BMW R1200ST & 2007 BMW G650X XChallenge
GPS: Lehigh Valley, PA
Miles Typed: 505
My Photo Gallery
Deutsche Rüstungs-Abteilung
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #2 on:
October 31, 2012, 01:35:33 PM »
My R1200ST has the vertical bar graph. On a recent ride it had full bars up to mile 67.7 where it finally lost one. By 110 miles it was at half.
Logged
SLK50
Junior Member
Reputation 25
Offline
Motorcycles: '06 FJR
GPS: Altoona, PA
Miles Typed: 891
My Photo Gallery
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #3 on:
October 31, 2012, 01:39:16 PM »
Steve McQueen never used a fuel gauge.
Just saying.
Logged
sleazy rider
Reputation 23
Offline
Years Contributed: '06, '07
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: '96 Triumph Daytona 1200
GPS: White Lake, MI
Miles Typed: 5168
My Photo Gallery
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #4 on:
October 31, 2012, 01:39:59 PM »
I count on the trip meter, not some idiot light that tells you when to push the bike. The Daytona low level light never came on when I ran out one time on the way to work. Knew I was pushing the range, but I couldn't find an open station to fuel up. Ended up pushing the bike about a quarter mile downhill to the pump.
Logged
--Tom IBA #41627 SS1000, IBA National Parks Master Traveler
Blog -
http://sleazyrider2k1.blogspot.com
Spot Tracker -
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0SAHG7SkoINjj4IjAyfCFlRoFioY10xTx
Cablebandit
Pig Wrangler
Reputation 75
Offline
Motorcycles: '10 Flying Pig
GPS: Stormstown PA
Miles Typed: 4449
My Photo Gallery
Certified Maniac
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #5 on:
October 31, 2012, 01:55:24 PM »
Quote from: sleazy rider on October 31, 2012, 01:39:59 PM
I count on the trip meter, not some idiot light that tells you when to push the bike.
I use both. It's good to know how far you've driven since your last gas. However, if I'm really riding like an idiot, I'd be walking if I didn't also pay attention to the fuel gauge. Luckily mine is pretty darn accurate.
The stupid thing Kawasaki does is when you get to the "low fuel" warning it stops giving you the miles left till empty. That's the only time I really would like to know that information.
Logged
IBA #33260
https://www.facebook.com/TheCablebandits
"since I actually have a twat I can complain all I want to" - viffergyrl
"I pooped at the highest point in West Virginia" - molferen
Scratch33
Reputation 7
Offline
Years Contributed: '06, '07, '08, '09, 2x'10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: '08 R1200GSA, '07 F800S, '10 Madass 125
GPS: On the Back Roads by the Rivers of My Memories
Miles Typed: 12186
My Photo Gallery
His Excellency's Car!
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #6 on:
October 31, 2012, 02:19:28 PM »
I had the fuel strip replaced on my '08 GSA immediately after buying it from the previous owner. The new one lasted a month.
Logged
I'm not lazy; I'm pacing myself...
Members, please
login
to hide this ad.
Guests, please
register
to hide this ad.
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #6 on:
October 31, 2012, 02:19:28 PM »
Logged
sagerat
Ural Tourist; BMW R1200GS Adventure
Reputation 7
Offline
GPS: Central Orygun
Miles Typed: 5451
My Photo Gallery
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #7 on:
October 31, 2012, 04:07:13 PM »
I'm on fuel strip #2. First one lasted less than a week.
Logged
The poster formerly known as VFRfan
Money can buy motorcycles, which means money can buy happiness
Mr.Black
Reputation 120
Offline
Years Contributed: '09, '10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: GSF1250
GPS: Desdemona's Space Station and Bait Shop down near Boomtown
Miles Typed: 17928
My Photo Gallery
I bumped my head a lot and used to eat paint chips
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #8 on:
October 31, 2012, 06:03:54 PM »
The Bandit is pretty good once you figure out how it's set up.
The first flashy light is at 70 - 75 miles to go.
Once both fuel lights go flashy flashy, I have 10 - 15 miles.
If I run out, shame on me.
Logged
Fuckin' cops/happy birthday Ed
sagerat
Ural Tourist; BMW R1200GS Adventure
Reputation 7
Offline
GPS: Central Orygun
Miles Typed: 5451
My Photo Gallery
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #9 on:
November 01, 2012, 08:40:11 AM »
Quote from: Cablebandit on October 31, 2012, 01:55:24 PM
I use both. It's good to know how far you've driven since your last gas. However, if I'm really riding like an idiot, I'd be walking if I didn't also pay attention to the fuel gauge. Luckily mine is pretty darn accurate.
This^
I know how spirited riding can drain even the largest of gas tanks more quickly than you'd think.
Logged
The poster formerly known as VFRfan
Money can buy motorcycles, which means money can buy happiness
Royal Tiger
Reputation -207
Offline
Motorcycles: 2005 BMW R1200ST & 2007 BMW G650X XChallenge
GPS: Lehigh Valley, PA
Miles Typed: 505
My Photo Gallery
Deutsche Rüstungs-Abteilung
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #10 on:
November 01, 2012, 01:19:47 PM »
Quote from: sagerat on November 01, 2012, 08:40:11 AM
This^
I know how spirited riding can drain even the largest of gas tanks more quickly than you'd think.
Absolutely. My aprilia didn't have a gauge. Sometimes the light came on at 120 miles. Sometimes at 90 miles.
Logged
Cablebandit
Pig Wrangler
Reputation 75
Offline
Motorcycles: '10 Flying Pig
GPS: Stormstown PA
Miles Typed: 4449
My Photo Gallery
Certified Maniac
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #11 on:
November 01, 2012, 01:22:30 PM »
Then it's short-shifting and coasting time.
Logged
IBA #33260
https://www.facebook.com/TheCablebandits
"since I actually have a twat I can complain all I want to" - viffergyrl
"I pooped at the highest point in West Virginia" - molferen
Kneescrubber
King of the 90º flat turn
Reputation 5
Offline
Motorcycles: '99 Honda VFR, '73 BMW R75/5
GPS: The western U.S. is strewn with paper maps I've lost from my tankbag.
Miles Typed: 3191
My Photo Gallery
Just a little more
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #12 on:
November 02, 2012, 06:21:47 AM »
The /5 doesn't have a fuel gauge. Hell, it doesn't even have a speedo.
Logged
I'm on ST.N so its not like I'm a productive member of society anyway. DogBoy
It's the internet. It runs on drama. Cablebandit
A squid with gear is a Hooligan. dm_gsxr
black hills
Reputation 49
Offline
GPS: Rapid City, SD
Miles Typed: 5440
My Photo Gallery
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #13 on:
November 02, 2012, 06:37:55 AM »
no gauge on any of my bikes, I just use the trip meter, seems simple enough
Logged
'04 CBR1000rr '09KTM300exc '11 990Adventure R
the above opinion is simply that of an average middle aged hick with one too many brain injuries... or, don't take it too serious.
Members, please
login
to hide this ad.
Guests, please
register
to hide this ad.
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #13 on:
November 02, 2012, 06:37:55 AM »
Logged
Nimh
Known Reprobate
Reputation 10
Offline
Years Contributed: '06, '07
Motorcycles: 06 Triumph Speed Triple, 13 BMW R1200GS Adventure, 06 Suzuki DRZ400S, 06 Suzuki SV650 (hers)
GPS: Puget Sound, WA
Miles Typed: 1479
My Photo Gallery
I'm feeling it now...
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #14 on:
November 02, 2012, 07:23:02 AM »
Did the fuel strip failure throw the constantly illuminated yellow triangle dash light?
I've read about guys having half a dozen of these things replaced on a GS under warranty. Considering what one pays for these bikes, I have an expectation that a simple mechanism like a gas gauge should function as well as any car I've owned and never had problems with.
Also, did you pull out the rubber filler neck to put that much fuel in the tank?
Logged
sagerat
Ural Tourist; BMW R1200GS Adventure
Reputation 7
Offline
GPS: Central Orygun
Miles Typed: 5451
My Photo Gallery
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #15 on:
November 02, 2012, 09:38:51 AM »
My first fuel strip failure did result in the "Eternal Light of the Golden Triangle" which was uber-annoying.
No, no removal of filler neck. Gas came right up to the bottom of the filler neck.
I've had lots of bikes that just had trip meters, which I actually prefer. A fuel gauge, a low fuel light, a "countdown mode" on your fuel gauge, and a trip meter all put you in this place: the man with one watch always knows what time it is. The man with two watches never does...
Logged
The poster formerly known as VFRfan
Money can buy motorcycles, which means money can buy happiness
Nimh
Known Reprobate
Reputation 10
Offline
Years Contributed: '06, '07
Motorcycles: 06 Triumph Speed Triple, 13 BMW R1200GS Adventure, 06 Suzuki DRZ400S, 06 Suzuki SV650 (hers)
GPS: Puget Sound, WA
Miles Typed: 1479
My Photo Gallery
I'm feeling it now...
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #16 on:
November 02, 2012, 11:51:00 AM »
Sure, I can see what you mean. I guess if something is going to fail, might as well be something I could live without easily (and have for years).
So another warranty exercise, or some black tape for the Golden Triangle?
Logged
sagerat
Ural Tourist; BMW R1200GS Adventure
Reputation 7
Offline
GPS: Central Orygun
Miles Typed: 5451
My Photo Gallery
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #17 on:
November 02, 2012, 03:05:10 PM »
Blessedly the Golden Triangle did not light up this time. I'll probably go warranty in the spring as the passes are soon to be closed by snow.
Logged
The poster formerly known as VFRfan
Money can buy motorcycles, which means money can buy happiness
DrD
[eom]
Reputation 13
Offline
Years Contributed: '08, '09, '10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: '10 S1000RR
GPS: NoVA
Miles Typed: 1335
My Photo Gallery
twigs
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #18 on:
November 02, 2012, 03:34:13 PM »
BTW, since about 1965 all BMW motorcycles have been built in Berlin.
Logged
Peter
"Motorcycles are the gorillas."
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/why_invisible_gorillas_matter/P1/
http://www.honorflight93.org/
falconati
you love it
Reputation 37
Offline
Motorcycles: Ducati Hypermotard 796, Aprilia Futura, Aprilia Falco
GPS: Madison, WI
Miles Typed: 5496
My Photo Gallery
Baller
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #19 on:
November 02, 2012, 04:22:36 PM »
Logged
ferenc
Reputation 2
Offline
Motorcycles: 12 f800r, 91vx800, 99f650, 90vx800; x-11 f800r, x-dl650, hondas gallore
GPS: sf east bay
Miles Typed: 185
My Photo Gallery
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #20 on:
November 06, 2012, 09:20:37 PM »
my fuel gauge shows full after 100 miles (half empty), and the yellow light comes on with 65 miles left.
dealer says the computer's happy, so no need to replace.
sigh,
ferenc - what's the 36 month 3 year warranty for????
Logged
enjoy
miles
Reputation 42
Offline
Years Contributed: '07, '08, '09, '10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: A green one.
Miles Typed: 12345
My Photo Gallery
fusil en mano, espero mi final
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #21 on:
December 27, 2012, 06:56:46 PM »
Quote from: miles on October 31, 2012, 01:16:26 PM
My S1000RR's gauge is absolutely spot on. The moment the countdown gets to zero the bike stalls and dies.
To test to see if my fuel gauge's accuracy was a one-time lucky occurrence, I kept an eye on it as it ticked down a couple of weekends ago. I had a spare fuel bottle so I wasn't too worried, and I knew the gas station was only 4 miles away.
When the countdown clock rolled over to zero the bike kept going, so my initial reaction was that it wasn't all that spot-on after all. Those thoughts lasted about 50 yards, then the bike sputtered and died.
So now I know for certain- the countdown clock is to be taken very seriously.
Logged
Dicen el matador me esta buscando
sagerat
Ural Tourist; BMW R1200GS Adventure
Reputation 7
Offline
GPS: Central Orygun
Miles Typed: 5451
My Photo Gallery
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #22 on:
December 27, 2012, 07:15:10 PM »
I envy you for your hyperaccurate gas gauge. Well, that and you can ride circles around me.
Logged
The poster formerly known as VFRfan
Money can buy motorcycles, which means money can buy happiness
miles
Reputation 42
Offline
Years Contributed: '07, '08, '09, '10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: A green one.
Miles Typed: 12345
My Photo Gallery
fusil en mano, espero mi final
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #23 on:
December 27, 2012, 09:21:43 PM »
Quote from: sagerat on December 27, 2012, 07:15:10 PM
you can ride circles around me.
Not now. My bike's blown up.
Logged
Dicen el matador me esta buscando
sagerat
Ural Tourist; BMW R1200GS Adventure
Reputation 7
Offline
GPS: Central Orygun
Miles Typed: 5451
My Photo Gallery
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #24 on:
December 27, 2012, 10:04:09 PM »
Sorry man. That sucks.
Logged
The poster formerly known as VFRfan
Money can buy motorcycles, which means money can buy happiness
miles
Reputation 42
Offline
Years Contributed: '07, '08, '09, '10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: A green one.
Miles Typed: 12345
My Photo Gallery
fusil en mano, espero mi final
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #25 on:
December 27, 2012, 10:05:20 PM »
Quote from: sagerat on December 27, 2012, 10:04:09 PM
Sorry man. That sucks.
Yeah, it does. On the positive side, though, now I'll get a new motor...
Logged
Dicen el matador me esta buscando
james_g
Reputation 14
Offline
Motorcycles: 2013 Aprilia Tuono
Miles Typed: 169
My Photo Gallery
Re: Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
«
Reply #26 on:
December 28, 2012, 06:27:31 AM »
Quote from: miles on December 27, 2012, 09:21:43 PM
Not now. My bike's blown up.
You obviously grew bored with just going through tires every 1000 miles decided to go through bikes at that same rate. Miles = destroyer of all things moto.
My bike doesn't have a fuel gauge but it does have a countdown to empty which works. My old Multi had a fuel gauge that was woefully inaccurate so the countdown is a big step up for me. My fat ass can't take more than a couple hours in the saddle at a time so 150 miles or so is good enough range for me.
james
Logged
...a Japanese manufacturer might take the motor, castrate it to about 110 hp and stick it in a cheaper, heavier chassis with low-spec suspension and brakes and slice an ‘R’ or two off the name. That’s not how Aprilia roll
Pages:
1
2
[
All
]
Go Up
Print
Sport-Touring.Net
»
The Club House
»
Manufacturer Row
»
BMW
» Topic:
Really, how hard is it to make a reliable fuel gauge, Munich?
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Administration
-----------------------------
=> Announcements & Rules
-----------------------------
The Open Road
-----------------------------
=> General Sport-Touring Discussion
=> Ride Reports
=> Motorcycle Polls
=> Beginner's Garage
=> ST.N Rallies/Meets
===> STN National
===> Borscht Burn
===> ESTN
===> SNOB
===> WCRM
-----------------------------
The Club House
-----------------------------
=> Pit Row
=> Iron Butt
=> Dirt Lovers
===> Off Road Ride Reports
=> Manufacturer Row
===> Aprilia
===> BMW
===> Buell
===> Ducati
===> Harley-Davidson
===> Honda
===> Kawasaki
===> KTM
===> Moto Guzzi
===> Suzuki
===> Triumph
===> Yamaha
===> Other
-----------------------------
The Tech Zone
-----------------------------
=> Mods & Maintenance
=> Gadgets
=> Gear and Apparel
-----------------------------
Global Positioning
-----------------------------
=> U.S. Region 1
=> U.S. Region 2
=> U.S. Region 3
=> U.S. Region 4
=> U.S. Region 5
=> U.S. Region 6
=> Canada
=> Europe & U.K.
=> Australia & New Zealand
-----------------------------
The Marketplace
-----------------------------
=> Bike Tech
=> Bikes Only
=> Non-bike Items
=> Vendor, Group Buy, Member Offers
-----------------------------
The Lounge
-----------------------------
=> Off Topic Discussion
=> EOE: Experts On Everything
Loading...
Copyright © 2001 - 2013 Sport-Touring.Net.
All rights reserved.
SimplePortal 2.3.1 © 2008-2009, SimplePortal