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Re: I am in LUST!!
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November 02, 2012, 03:59:07 PM »
Why people get hung up about capacity and HP numbers baffles me? What the V7 is is a nice little lightweight tourer and runabout. It won't set the world alight but within the confines of its design demographic it works just fine. As for 'Why Brembo?'. Well, it needs brakes obviously and Guzzi have used Brembo since, well, since they went to discs! I would expect that sourcing brakes from elsewhere wouldn't make economic sense. Hence heir use.
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Re: I am in LUST!!
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November 02, 2012, 04:35:16 PM »
After a 30 mile test ride I'm convinced there will soon be a V7 in may garage, probably a Stone in pure white.
At 395 lbs, w/o fuel, it's light and fun to ride. No, not a big $$$ bike with top shelf specs but a fun light weight everyday ride. the demo I road had Mistral mufflers...... oh what preeeeeeetty music it made.
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Re: I am in LUST!!
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November 02, 2012, 04:41:48 PM »
Quote from: Pete Roper on November 02, 2012, 03:59:07 PM
Why people get hung up about capacity and HP numbers baffles me? .....................
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Once you realise size doesn't matter specs or chrome are no longer important. It's all about the ride!
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November 02, 2012, 05:06:26 PM »
Quote from: Hambonee on November 02, 2012, 01:50:34 PM
Cause the Brembo factory is right down the road from the Guzzi factory..duh!!!
Need some oil so will probably stop by the dealer this weekend and drool all over a few Guzzis...too bad I am just too tall for the V7s
Too tall?
How tall are you?
Now i didn't ride it, but it felt fine to me at 6' 2" (but with a 32" inseam)
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November 02, 2012, 05:13:19 PM »
After catching up on the reading here I probably shouldn't post this but...
After looking at the Cafe racer thread again, maybe the V11 Sport and do my own Cafe' treatment ( Iguess I am a nut for the HP numbers)
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Re: I am in LUST!!
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November 02, 2012, 07:33:43 PM »
Since the first time I spotted the V7 Racer, I knew there will be one in my garage
. When I have room and the opportunity presents itself, it will happen. No hurry here, it's not like it will be out of date when I find one.
All joking aside, they are sweet bikes. Just gliding through the curves with no malice in mind, I can see myself just riding one of these without a care in the world.
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Re: I am in LUST!!
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November 02, 2012, 09:24:58 PM »
Quote from: karlfitt on November 02, 2012, 05:13:19 PM
After catching up on the reading here I probably shouldn't post this but...
After looking at the Cafe racer thread again, maybe the V11 Sport and do my own Cafe' treatment ( Iguess I am a nut for the HP numbers)
Well, that's fine, but you'll still be disappointed with the numbers of a V11. Good V11 will put out low to mid eighties HP, (At sea level, knock a fair few neddies off fo Colorado.), power to weight ratio makes the numbers worse. Not to say that V11's aren't fun bikes but they don't crash well and have a few glaring flaws. 'Cafe-ing' a spineframe is no easy task either if you are thinking of doing what I think you are hoping to do.
I was pleasantly surprised when I had a short ride on one of the 'New' V7's. despite it still being mechanically almost identical to the old model the one
major
change, the adoption of the single throttle body and combined EMU has made it a considerably sweeter ride than the earlier model and it is much easier, and therefore cheaper, to service.
I've been riding and working on Guzzis for over thirty years and long ago gave up worrying about HP numbers and the like. My Griso 1200 makes 104.8 RWHP on a warm day at 800 meters altitude. My Aprilia Mana makes about 70 I'd guess but I've never dyno'd it, why would you? If I was worried about such things I'd just buy a TV4 and be done with it! It's something I've considered because the TV4 is a truly magnificent motorbike but its far too much bike for me and where could you ever hope to use everything it has to offer on a public road?
There is a lot to be said for adopting a more *Relaxed* approach to ones riding and choice of machine. Not suggesting for a moment that everybody should be compelled to ride low output chuffers. Simply pointing out that just because it says 750cc on the box but only has 50-ish HP, probably less at the rear wheel, doesn't mean it can't be fun.
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Re: I am in LUST!!
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November 02, 2012, 10:21:53 PM »
Quote from: 1000lbs on November 02, 2012, 07:33:43 PM
Since the first time I spotted the V7 Racer, I knew there will be one in my garage
. When I have room and the opportunity presents itself, it will happen. No hurry here, it's not like it will be out of date when I find one.
All joking aside, they are sweet bikes. Just gliding through the curves with no malice in mind, I can see myself just riding one of these without a care in the world.
I'm with Mr. Half-a-ton on the V7 love at first sight, but I lean toward the Stone. I like the gaiters and the unabashed "standard-ness" of it. It looks like a motorcycle.
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Re: I am in LUST!!
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November 03, 2012, 07:52:59 AM »
Quote from: Pete Roper on November 02, 2012, 09:24:58 PM
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There is a lot to be said for adopting a more *Relaxed* approach to ones riding and choice of machine. Not suggesting for a moment that everybody should be compelled to ride low output chauffeurs. Simply pointing out that just because it says 750cc on the box but only has 50-ish HP, probably less at the rear wheel, doesn't mean it can't be fun.
Pete
+1 Well said Pete.
6 weeks ago my garage contained a 3 bikes, the most powerful is a '06 BMW K1200GT. I've added a 4th to the stable and the BMW is for sale. The new bike is a Vespa GTS 300 that I purchased in Vegas, road to Californis the home to Florida, 4968 miles in 30 days all secondary roads. I've been cross country several time but never smiled as much as during this trip on the Vespa. The BMW has got to go to make room for the Guzzi V7. to me HP doesn't matter, it's all about the ride.
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Re: I am in LUST!!
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November 03, 2012, 03:34:04 PM »
One of my favourite bikes of all time is the Honda CB250RS. If I could find a decent one again I'd restore it to keep. It probably had a whopping 20 or so neddies!
In fact I'm seriously considering joining the CT110 nutters, buying a little dual-range Aggie, sticking a long range tank and panniers on it and using it for long tours on tiny dirt roads. This particular form of fun is becoming increasingly popular in Oz where draconian policing of 'Speed' and the number of idiots on sealed roads who are more concerned with operating their smart phones and iPads than controlling the vehicle while they are 'Driving' has made many of our highways into high risk propositions with a low fun factor.
There are lots of people who tour on V7's. apart from the addition of a sump extension I can see no other improvements that are needed. You can't improve their performance appreciably as the limiting factor is the Heron Head design, at least not without an enormous investment in time and effort, not to mention expense!
My mate Dan in Florida had a beautifully set up little V7 Classic he did several long trips on before he came over to the Dark Side and bought an 8V Griso
. There really is no *Need* for much more than what a V7 offers.
Now, put that motor with a real gearbox into a decent frame and make it into a 'Micro-Stelvio' and I'll put my deposit down tomorrow!!!
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Re: I am in LUST!!
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November 03, 2012, 04:34:14 PM »
Quote from: Roadscum on November 03, 2012, 07:52:59 AM
+1 Well said Pete.
6 weeks ago my garage contained a 3 bikes, the most powerful is a '06 BMW K1200GT. I've added a 4th to the stable and the BMW is for sale. The new bike is a Vespa GTS 300 that I purchased in Vegas, road to Californis the home to Florida, 4968 miles in 30 days all secondary roads. I've been cross country several time but never smiled as much as during this trip on the Vespa. The BMW has got to go to make room for the Guzzi V7. to me HP doesn't matter, it's all about the ride.
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Re: I am in LUST!!
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Quote from: Roadscum on November 03, 2012, 07:52:59 AM
The new bike is a Vespa GTS 300 that I purchased in Vegas, road to Californis the home to Florida, 4968 miles in 30 days all secondary roads.
Shirley you are mistaken. It is impossible to ride across country unless your bike weighs 800lbs and has a motor bigger than a small car.
Impossible.
Plus on a thcooter? I am surprised you have not been banned from this site...
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Re: I am in LUST!!
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November 04, 2012, 01:41:17 PM »
Yes, I am ashamed of my silly behavoir, no cookies and milk for me tonight.
One of the pleasure of groeing old is I've realized there is no need to keep up with the pack. The challange comes in finding new ways to keep up my interst in riding. There's more to this motorcycling thing then putting another new arrow in the quiver evey year.
Now for a word of wisdom:
"If you never did you should. These things are fun and fun is good." - Dr. Seus
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I was at AF1last friday,... the V7 stone....oozes coolness.
very nice, very very nice
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Re: I am in LUST!!
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Quote from: Pete Roper on November 02, 2012, 09:24:58 PM
Well, that's fine, but you'll still be disappointed with the numbers of a V11.....
There is a lot to be said for adopting a more *Relaxed* approach to ones riding and choice of machine. Not suggesting for a moment that everybody should be compelled to ride low output chuffers. Simply pointing out that just because it says 750cc on the box but only has 50-ish HP, probably less at the rear wheel, doesn't mean it can't be fun.
Pete
You may be right about learning to ride.
But there is definatly something about twisting the loud handle and having the bike really move.
My ST4s is the first bike in over 20 years i have been able to do a power wheelie on. But how ofter do you really need to do that?
I have enjoyed many a BMW without the same kind of HP the Duc has.
Should be able to enjoy that little Guzzi as well.
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It's funny that a 750 is "little" now.
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I am in LUST!!
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Quote from: staedtler on November 04, 2012, 04:11:54 PM
I was at AF1last friday,... the V7 stone....oozes coolness.
very nice, very very nice
Yeah, Moto International in Seattle just got a matte black V7 Stone in the showroom; saw it on Friday (the 2nd). I was surprised how much I liked the way it looks.
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Quote from: coho on November 04, 2012, 07:26:40 PM
It's funny that a 750 is "little" now.
You know, I was thinking physical size when I said little, not motor.
But 48 HP out of a 750 is kinda little too.
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Quote from: atadaskew on November 03, 2012, 05:18:23 PM
Shirley you are mistaken. It is impossible to ride across country unless your bike weighs 800lbs and has a motor bigger than a small car.
Impossible.
Plus on a thcooter? I am surprised you have not been banned from this site...
OK, I've let this lye long enough.
How did Roadscum NOT answer this with "No, I'm not Mistaken. And don't call me Shirley."
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Quote from: atadaskew on November 03, 2012, 05:18:23 PM
Plus on a thcooter? I am surprised you have not been banned from this site...
Whirld's biggest scooter! And a wonderful thing it is!!!
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