Honda's reputation for reliability is well earned.

[Carbonero]

My goodness, this thread is amusing.  

[Bruce Bogtrotter]

My goodness, this thread is amusing.  

Like I'm a clown? I amuse you?

[Royal Tiger]

ACORN sabotaged the MCN survey -- I did not know that.

Seriously, your argument is that there was a conspiracy among the 12,000 MCN readers polled, such that Honda came out ahead.

Facts have a well-known Honda bias.

I was merely stating there is no known qualitative proof that the opinions in this thread were correct.  

However with your last post I quoted I must say I like where you went with that. Excellent job!  

[Royal Tiger]

Oh and to address the other point years ago I was semi active on a Kawasaki forum.  One of the threads was about a magazine doing some type of survey and the OP was encouraging people to vote for a certain model Kawasaki.  He even included a link right to the poll.  I'm not saying this is what happened, but it is certainly possible.  Especially in light of the rabidness of Honda lovers on here.

[birdrunner]

What other 2008 Japanese or even other liter sportbikes had oil consumption issues or even other recorded reliability concerns?

  According to the Internet?  I don't know ....   lots of "facts" out there.   Still haven't seen any facts supporting the oil consumption issue.  (Other than internet ranting,  after all "It's well known").  

At least we're showing some supporting data.


Show me some data, or even an endurance race result.

[falconati]

I love this thread.  

[Royal Tiger]

   According to the Internet?  I don't know ....   lots of "facts" out there.   Still haven't seen any facts supporting the oil consumption issue.  (Other than internet ranting,  after all "It's well known").  

At least we're showing some supporting data.


Show me some data, or even an endurance race result.

Endurance race result?    Yeah because race bikes are just like production ones.  ROFLMFAO

As far as something proving oil consumption, how about a class action lawsuit filed by actual owners?  

http://www.normantaylor.com/blog/lemon-law/honda-cbr-1000-oil-consumption-class-action/

[Silverbird]

I'd never doubt the 1000RR's burn oil and lot's of it, but it's pathetic how Honda claims all Motorcycles burn oil during break-in.  I've bought brand new CBR900RR, VFR800, CBR929, CBR600RR, and XR100, VTR1000, and 2 Blackbirds.  None of which burned a drop, EVER.  

On the other hand, all air/water BMW's burn oil, but that's a different forum

[Giaka]

   Honda cars are still some of the best out there...
 

Just dated and boring (Accord) or ugly (civic, fit, crosstour). Honda doesn't make a single car that's interesting right now. Not a single one.

[nnjhawk02]

I'll chime in w/ my .02

All dirtbikes R Hondas - never a problem (unless one of the kids friends have crashed it )

Have '02 VTR1000 - other than the stock R/R - which goes on them all & my CDI box, its closing in on 50k and Never has burned a drop of earl.

'00 Honda Civic EX - bought it w/ 120k, sold it w/ 283k - never a problem

But after my cage crash in a '99 Nissan Maxima, I'm not going back to small cars,  If I was in that Civic - I wouldn't be here to type this, but that's not a knock on Honda - any small car would not survive a head on crash on a interstate.

Will be buying a another Maxima or a SUV

[Rogue]

Just dated and boring (Accord) or ugly (civic, fit, crosstour). Honda doesn't make a single car that's interesting right now. Not a single one.

The current Civic is being made over in 2013 because it got lackluster reviews (although its sales remained high).

The current Accord (2013) has won all reviews in its class.  Not the fastest, but the best overall with a great powertrain (even with CVT) and class leading handling dynamics.  

Clearly, Honda is listening and is on a path to fix prior missteps.  Note all their new, entry level style motorcycles.    

[falconati]

I hope so - the cars are a joke.  Not even remotely on my list right now.

[Rogue]

I wouldn't call them "a joke" but yeah I agree.  Their newest offering, the Acura ILX is a joke in its class--noisy, soft, expensive, Civic with an Acura badge.  The Buick Verano outdistances it on every performance measure + better ride and comfort at similar prices.  Another "joke" is Honda's Insight hybrid (both 2 and 4-door).  Slow.  In case of the 4-door, slow, lackluster Noise/Vibe/harshness, and ill handling + ugly.  Hell the Nissan Leaf will run circles around the Insight sedan!

However, their new class beating Accord is solid proof that when Honda puts their collective efforts together, they are capable of building best in class.  Don't underestimate them.  Then there is the reliability factor.  Despite what a few people here say, Honda's automotive reliability has rarely faultered with consistently high ratings in initial quality.  Having said all that, I have no interest in buying any Honda cars.  Honda motorcycles yes.  But Honda cars (like the Accord and Civic) are like belly buttons....everyone including your grandparents has one!  Their consistent reliability and overall goodness however is what sells here in the USA.  This is Honda's largest market in the world (one of the tougest automotive markets in the world too).  That says something.  

[Papa Lazarou]

Hondas reliabilty rep is well earned.






















No it's not.

[SLK50]

Over the last 30+ years I've owned at least six Hondas.
Really liked the motorcycles, (3) but absolutey hated
the cars. (3)
As far as reliability is concerned, Hondas are primarily
the reason I'm the highly skilled shade tree mechanic
that I am today.
And I say that without any animosity at all.

[Royal Tiger]

Over the last 30+ years I've owned at least six Hondas.
Really liked the motorcycles, (3) but absolutey hated
the cars. (3)
As far as reliability is concerned, Hondas are primarily
the reason I'm the highly skilled shade tree mechanic
that I am today.
And I say that without any animosity at all.

Uh oh.  Some rabid fanboi is going to make some weak attempt at being witty since they won't be able to counter your personal experience.  

[Carbonero]

OOH! I know this game... ready...?

YEAH BUT... YEAH BUT... YEAH BUT.... Nah, I got nothin'. Never mind.  

[napper]

Over the last 30+ years I've owned at least six Hondas.
Really liked the motorcycles, (3) but absolutey hated
the cars. (3)
As far as reliability is concerned, Hondas are primarily
the reason I'm the highly skilled shade tree mechanic
that I am today.
And I say that without any animosity at all.

Uh oh.  Some rabid fanboi is going to make some weak attempt at being witty since they won't be able to counter your personal experience.  

Honda will never ask of us more than we can handle.  

I learned a LOT of what I know, mechanically, from having owned a '73 Civic for several years.  I think a warped head was an annual occurrence on that little gem.  The up side was that my buddy and I could pull that motor without a hoist.  

[Cablebandit]

Uh oh.  Some rabid fanboi is going to make some weak attempt at being witty since they won't be able to counter your personal experience.  

Almost as if Honda is the Apple of moto manufacturers.  

[falconati]

Honda will never ask of us more than we can handle.  

Honda giveth and Honda taketh away.