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« on: December 17, 2012, 10:22:05 AM »

Honda CBR500R
Has any one ridden this bike yet?  Headscratch
And if so can it be ridden for say 200 or so miles?
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2012, 10:40:58 AM »

Of course it can be ridden for 200 miles..  
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2012, 10:57:12 AM »


Of course it can be ridden for 200 miles..  

In comfort?
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2012, 11:09:02 AM »

Only if you are a perky-bellied, skinny-tittied, female engineer.  
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2012, 11:10:07 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2012, 12:02:57 PM »

If'n you want comfort, I suggest the CB500X.
Honda says the 500's will be available in April 2013.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2012, 12:07:06 PM »


And if so can it be ridden for say 200 or so miles?


No.

You need an adjustable windshield, shaft drive, hard bags, heated grips, cockpit adjustable suspension, and a GPS/IPhone attachment to ride more than 120 miles.  

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If'n you want comfort, I suggest the CB500X.
Honda says the 500's will be available in April 2013.

Of the riviews I have read they keep comparing it to the old 700 VFR's  Smile
Which i had and loved!
And for $5k? How can you go wrong? That's all of $100 a month!
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2012, 12:36:50 PM »




No.

You need an adjustable windshield, shaft drive, hard bags, heated grips, cockpit adjustable suspension, and a GPS/IPhone attachment to ride more than 120 miles.  

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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2012, 05:08:08 PM »




No.

You need an adjustable windshield, shaft drive, hard bags, heated grips, cockpit adjustable suspension, and a GPS/IPhone attachment to ride more than 120 miles.  

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It's true.  One time I left my shaft drive off my bike and I never even made it out of the driveway!
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2012, 04:31:57 AM »

I can't think of a single bike that I can't ride for 200+ miles at a time. I could probably cross the country on that little CBR. Just sayin'.

Other than a little crunched in the legs, the CBR500 looks to have a pretty reasonable riding position.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2012, 05:33:15 AM »




No.

You need an adjustable windshield, shaft drive, hard bags, heated grips, cockpit adjustable suspension, and a GPS/IPhone attachment to ride more than 120 miles.  

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ha. i've been riding since '72 and never had a single item on that list.  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2012, 02:54:23 PM »

I'm sorry but $5k for 500cc parallel twin? That's amazing!
Yeah ok it's nice to own a big 1100cc bike but well....well i can't afford another liter bike now and well you know that Honda will be very reliable for years and years to come!
Does it have proper brakes? Or is it single sided?
I have ridden a few bikes with a single sided disc and i know it's going to sound silly but in spirited riding I just found them to be lacking in both feel and in fade.

And I'm sorry I had assumed it was out already but well when it does i will have to take it for a spin.
$5k is only $100 per month! :-)
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2012, 04:17:32 PM »


I'm sorry but $5k for 500cc parallel twin? That's amazing!
Yeah ok it's nice to own a big 1100cc bike but well....well i can't afford another liter bike now and well you know that Honda will be very reliable for years and years to come!
Does it have proper brakes? Or is it single sided?
I have ridden a few bikes with a single sided disc and i know it's going to sound silly but in spirited riding I just found them to be lacking in both feel and in fade.

And I'm sorry I had assumed it was out already but well when it does i will have to take it for a spin.
$5k is only $100 per month! :-)


http://powersports.honda.com/2013/cbr500r.aspx

Single sided brakes; but please explain to me how that's not "proper". It's a budget bike, and it's crazy stupid light. I'm sure it stops just fine.
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2012, 04:52:15 PM »

shah is a weekend racer and therefore will require carbon ceramic.  This bike is, therefore, a piece of fucking shit.

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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2012, 04:52:58 PM »

I keep forgetting things like that.
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2012, 02:30:28 AM »

Umm, check your pricing, Shah.  It's on their website at $5999.   Still good pricing, but by the time you add anything plus the taxes and licensing, it's nearer $7000.
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2012, 03:24:25 AM »

Worst thing about owning a Honda is telling your parents your gay.  Yup it will run for ever, but you can never drink black coffee again or eat bacon.  On the plus side you will get to deal with all those fantastic Honda dealers.  


I think it could be a fun bike as long as my friends didn't see me riding it.
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http://powersports.honda.com/2013/cbr500r.aspx

Single sided brakes; but please explain to me how that's not "proper". It's a budget bike, and it's crazy stupid light. I'm sure it stops just fine.

Well the last bike that had a single disc was also from the early 80's...one of the old Ducati's? As I recall? It was years ago.  
And I'm sure things have gotten better over the years.
Looks like a great bike, in white she does remind me of an older VFR?
And it's Fi!  Smile

This may be a great bike! Shame it doesn't have a center stand? But such is life. Let me see how my finances are and maybe I'll just have to pick one up?
New bike for used bike money?
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Well the last bike that had a single disc was also from the early 80's...one of the old Ducati's? As I recall? It was years ago.  
And I'm sure things have gotten better over the years.
Looks like a great bike, in white she does remind me of an older VFR?
And it's Fi!  Smile


You should get out more.

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This may be a great bike! Shame it doesn't have a center stand? But such is life. Let me see how my finances are and maybe I'll just have to pick one up?
New bike for used bike money?


I can't suggest new over used... that's a call for the buyer to make. But I can tell you that Honda has put out some great things of late, and it's clear they're listening to the market place.
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I can't suggest new over used... that's a call for the buyer to make. But I can tell you that Honda has put out some great things of late, and it's clear they're listening to the market place.


True this.

I own both a CBR250R and it's sibling, the CRF250L. Both, very good bikes. My FJR is getting long on the tooth and I'm casually looking for it's replacement. Test rode the NC700X. It was shockingly good. Now the CB500X is coming. I think Honda sort of shot themselves in the foot with these models. The 500 has the same power, weighs 40 odd pounds less, lower seat height and should roughly equivalent economy. More important, it's got a bigger gas tank that is, in fact, a real gas tank. Not one of those under the passenger seat jobs that will force you unload all your shit if your touring just to fill up. Throw in the that the 500 will be a few grand cheaper....

So now the 500X model is on my radar for a test ride in the spring. The plan is to sell the CBR and FJR (admittedly, not worth much at over 100,000 miles) along with all the mods I've done to it separately. That should just about cover the cost of a new bike.  The plan is to slow the feck down when I'm touring to actually see some stuff Bigsmile
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Worst thing about owning a Honda is telling your parents your gay.  Yup it will run for ever, but you can never drink black coffee again or eat bacon.  On the plus side you will get to deal with all those fantastic Honda dealers.  


I think it could be a fun bike as long as my friends didn't see me riding it.


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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2012, 07:27:49 AM »

too bad Honda doesn't have some old CR500 motors laying around to stick in the CBR250 chassis Bigsmile
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2012, 07:28:46 AM »


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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2012, 07:58:17 AM »

You know I loved riding that big GPZ-1100. She was so much fun. I compared it to wrestling a big goofy cat. She put a huge smile no my face.
But the last I knew my friend who was working on the carb was ready to just shoot the thing. It's not an easy bike to work on and not even the guys at Kow wanted to touch it.
And I have been off a bike going on two years now and well you have to admit the reliability of Honda's is just so nice!
The only thing I would change on this design and this is just me speaking would be to maybe put the pipes under the engine such that maybe the passanger had more room for their feet and maybe give you the ability to put attach some bags without worrying about heat.

I have to say it's a very nice looking bike, does remind me of the old VFR I use to have.

thank you for your help guys, when it comes out I will have to take it for a little spin to see what she feels like.
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Psst. Don't tell anybody but the CRFL pulls women like crazy.


Well, it's torquey, and you need a lot of torque to haul some chicks around.
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Well, it's torquey, and you need a lot of torque to haul some chicks around.


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« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2012, 12:02:29 PM »


Well, it's torquey, and you need a lot of torque to haul some chicks around.

well then I just won't date those girls then
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well then I just won't date those girls then


then that makes all the most sense then
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« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2012, 12:43:34 PM »


then that makes all the most sense then

Fishbowl theory...the fish only get as big as the bowel they are in!
Or in this case her but can only be as big as that rear seat?  Lol

The more I think about this bike and look at my finances...the more I like it.
I'm not looking for huge power, I just want to ride to and from my parents in the summer which is about a 3 hour to four hour drive and then drive around the mountains.
And this little girl looks perfect!

And the price...oh that's a good price!
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« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2012, 01:03:45 PM »



Fishbowl theory...the fish only get as big as the bowel they are in!
Or in this case her but can only be as big as that rear seat?  Lol

The more I think about this bike and look at my finances...the more I like it.
I'm not looking for huge power, I just want to ride to and from my parents in the summer which is about a 3 hour to four hour drive and then drive around the mountains.
And this little girl looks perfect!

And the price...oh that's a good price!


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So now the 500X model is on my radar for a test ride in the spring. The plan is to sell the CBR and FJR (admittedly, not worth much at over 100,000 miles) along with all the mods I've done to it separately.


So do FJR's come apart at 100k miles and you can't continue to ride it?  

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So do FJR's come apart at 100k miles and you can't continue to ride it?  

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Nah, as he said, he wants to slow down. I think the FJR is about the most perfect bike on the market, but man... I can NOT ride that thing slow.  Embarassment I totally get it.
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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2012, 01:16:42 PM »

So do FJR's come apart at 100k miles and you can't continue to ride it?  
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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2012, 01:50:32 PM »


Nah, as he said, he wants to slow down. I think the FJR is about the most perfect bike on the market, but man... I can NOT ride that thing slow.  Embarassment I totally get it.


Thanks. The FJR makes it so easy to ride 12hrs straight at a pace that you find yourself doing it all the time. Ya, you cover some ground, but you tend to only see the sights as they whiz buy.  I'm kinda sick of living a trip through a camera lens *WHILE* I'm riding.

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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2012, 04:17:03 PM »



Fishbowl theory...the fish only get as big as the bowel they are in!



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Nah, as he said, he wants to slow down.


I know what he meant.  I thought it was funny.

Just throttle back in 4th gear or something.  It's cheaper and you still have the option of rolling on the power to pass slower traffic.  
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« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2012, 04:24:33 PM »

Having owned a twin 400+ cc moto in my past, I can tell you that you will not want to ride the Honda 500cc long nor fast.  Wink
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« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2012, 04:56:38 PM »

I do remember when I had my VF500F (500cc V4 with about 45-50 rwhp), I had no trouble sport-touring on it.  But I was very young and when I "toured" I put all my stuff in ONE medium sized dufflebag and one very small tank bag.  I also only weighed no more than 160 lbs. so the bike had no problem going fast enough even up and over mountains, passing in the twisties, etc.  Of course, every cager out there in those days were NOT as fast as they are now.
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« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2012, 05:06:49 PM »

I'm a solid 190+ before gear, and my SV has absolutely no trouble going just fine even 2-up, twisties, highways, country roads and warp-speed "get there quick" rides. I really wonder what's considered "fast enough" for some of you guys.  Headscratch

I'm not breaking any land speed records, but felony speeds and stupid-fast are still well achievable. Shrug
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« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2012, 08:01:18 PM »

I wonder what the RWHP is on this thing?
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« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2012, 08:19:26 PM »


I wonder what the RWHP is on this thing?


I haven't seen it published but if I had to guess, I'd say it's probably in the 40 - 45 hp range.
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« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2012, 08:19:59 PM »

My guess is 35-40 rwhp.
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« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2012, 10:10:05 PM »

A DRZ400 makes 35rwhp. A Ninja 650 makes somewhere in the low-mid 60s. Both of those bikes are low stress, mild tune engines. I'd guess 50 + or - for the CBR500.

Edit: This article from AsphaltandRubber.com references 47hp but the source for that figure isn't mentioned or whether its rwhp or whether that is a different state of tune than the US model.
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« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2012, 05:55:39 AM »

I was talking to a friend about buying this....his thoughts on the subject

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« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2012, 05:57:46 AM »


I was talking to a friend about buying this....his thoughts on the subject

If you buy that bike, I will purchase a ZX-14R and follow you to every bar.  I will park next to yours and show everyone my license plate saying "MINEISBIGGER".

   Do you really want this?

   (I will have to do this out of love, till I break you)



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« Reply #46 on: December 20, 2012, 06:07:02 AM »




Sounds like your buddy could use some therepy.


would you expect anything less from Shah Headscratch
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« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2012, 06:14:51 AM »


A DRZ400 makes 35rwhp. A Ninja 650 makes somewhere in the low-mid 60s. Both of those bikes are low stress, mild tune engines. I'd guess 50 + or - for the CBR500.

Edit: This article from AsphaltandRubber.com references 47hp but the source for that figure isn't mentioned or whether its rwhp or whether that is a different state of tune than the US model.
54 hp in their non-restricted state  - 47 hp in restricted form for tiered-licensed, etc. countries.
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« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2012, 06:15:47 AM »


Sounds like your buddy could use some therepy.

Oh chillax it's funny!
XZ-14....mine is bigger  Lol
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« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2012, 06:17:57 AM »



Oh chillax it's funny!
XZ-14....mine is bigger  Lol
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I do not "chillax".

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« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2012, 07:47:38 AM »


My guess is 35-40 rwhp.


Honda engineers responsible for this bike need to be hung upside down by the love spuds if that's all this bike makes; back in the 70's a 500 was making 50bhp. I truly suspect it will make quite a bit more.
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« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2012, 07:59:41 AM »


I was talking to a friend about buying this....his thoughts on the subject

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« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2012, 08:20:54 AM »




Honda engineers responsible for this bike need to be hung upside down by the love spuds if that's all this bike makes; back in the 70's a 500 was making 50bhp. I truly suspect it will make quite a bit more.


Well the NC700 makes makes about 48 rwhp.  Albeit that engine is a long stroke/flat torque curve design with a low rev ceiling.  But it also has 200cc's more.  It all depends on how Honda tunes the engine and whether it's an over/under square design.  If it's an over-square engine with a high rev ceiling, shim hunder bucket valvetrain I would expect it to push 50 rwhp.  It's only a twin.  Suzuki's SV650 put out around 67-70 rwhp if I remember correctly.  
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« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2012, 08:33:25 AM »

Those engines future 67 mm bore / 66.8 mm stroke and low 10.7 CR  , or basically car engine dimensions . Very long stroke by bike engine standards , 100 wheel hp per liter is very unlikely .

They will make upper 30`s - 40 whp  .
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« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2012, 12:54:03 PM »

So...Honda built a slightly slower ex500? Headscratch While many of the bikes from honda have some pretty cool tech, they often somehow seem to miss their target (a bike that lots of people will buy).
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So...Honda built a slightly slower ex500? Headscratch While many of the bikes from honda have some pretty cool tech, they often somehow seem to miss their target (a bike that lots of people will buy).

40hp?
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« Reply #56 on: December 23, 2012, 07:31:13 PM »

If you are the least bit concerned about power you are better off buying a used whatever with more engine, better suspension, better brakes etc.   Way too many bikes on the market to whine what the newest toy doesn't come with.   Be bold, go forth and roll your own in vast used market.
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« Reply #57 on: December 23, 2012, 08:01:07 PM »

more torque
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« Reply #58 on: December 24, 2012, 07:33:32 AM »

 

Do you people even remember riding motorcycles back when a 750 was a freaking monster of epic proportions.

Spoilt gits, y'all're.  Lol
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« Reply #59 on: December 24, 2012, 08:05:49 AM »

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« Reply #60 on: December 24, 2012, 09:53:11 AM »


Or they're young?   Razz


I covered that with spoilt.  Lol
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I know STn-ers are a well-marbled bunch, but the idea that fifty full-grown horses would be insufficient to pull their massive glutes around is silly.
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« Reply #62 on: December 24, 2012, 10:02:43 AM »


I know STn-ers are a well-marbled bunch, but the idea that fifty full-grown horses would be insufficient to pull their massive glutes around is silly.


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Well, when you can't corner worth a shit, you need massive power to pull you back up to like 30 MPH after a corner.  Lol Lol

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« Reply #63 on: December 24, 2012, 03:05:54 PM »


 

Do you people even remember riding motorcycles back when a 750 was a freaking monster of epic proportions.

Spoilt gits, y'all're.  Lol


The world has gotten much faster.  Sure you can have fun with 40 rwhp.

But I prefer 85+ rwhp.  100 rwhp is about ideal for how I like to ride.  I like to pass cars.
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But I prefer 85+ rwhp.  100 rwhp is about ideal for how I like to ride.  I like to pass cars.


Ride Miles bike, passing large groups of cars becomes easy.



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« Reply #65 on: December 24, 2012, 07:16:58 PM »


(sans self control)


Unfortunately, I know that feeling very, very well.  Sad
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« Reply #66 on: December 25, 2012, 06:18:31 AM »

I have no idea WTF is wrong with you guys who can't pass cars with less than 100hp.  Lol

The below was passing a car on Highway 1 without even trying.  37 hp, bizzitches!
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I have no idea WTF is wrong with you guys who can't pass cars with less than 100hp.  Lol

The below was passing a car on Highway 1 without even trying.  37 hp, bizzitches!


X2--I've got maybe 40 rwhp and the bike weighs 450ish lbs and I weigh 2X bluepoof.  Won't go much over 100 mph......
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Lowest price advertised on CycleTrader is $5,588. I guess no one has ridden one yet. Wonder how it compares to the old Ninja 500...

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« Reply #69 on: December 26, 2012, 06:46:36 AM »


I have no idea WTF is wrong with you guys who can't pass cars with less than 100hp.  Lol



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« Reply #70 on: December 26, 2012, 11:57:37 AM »


I have no idea WTF is wrong with you guys who can't pass cars with less than 100hp.  Lol

The below was passing a car on Highway 1 without even trying.  37 hp, bizzitches!


+1 from the guy preparing to build a sport-touring rig out of a 40hp DR-Z 400S(T).  Bigok
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I laugh at those who "need" big power.  Rolleyes Lol


it is odd, my 100 hp 990 feels terribly slow compared to my CBR Rolleyes
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« Reply #72 on: December 26, 2012, 12:17:27 PM »




it is odd, my 100 hp 990 feels terribly slow compared to my CBR Rolleyes


Your perceptions are not terribly fluid. Shrug

How a bike creates and delivers power is just as important as how much it delivers.

By "990", I assume you mean KTM... it'll have a much narrower power band and lower RPM range than the CBR, and isn't as spritely in the top end as the CBR will be. They shouldn't feel the same; they're very different bikes in every regard. Shrug
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Your perceptions are not terribly fluid. Shrug

How a bike creates and delivers power is just as important as how much it delivers.

By "990", I assume you mean KTM... it'll have a much narrower power band and lower RPM range than the CBR, and isn't as spritely in the top end as the CBR will be. They shouldn't feel the same; they're very different bikes in every regard. Shrug


true, but the much higher HP CBR outpulls it in every gear at every RPM Rolleyes

the KTM is still more fun to ride though Smile
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true, but the much higher HP CBR outpulls it in every gear at every RPM Rolleyes

the KTM is still more fun to ride though Smile


I really don't understand your use of the rolling eyes. Sounds like we're agreeing, mostly. Or not even discussing the same thing. I don't know...

Blue's observation remains... people thinking they "need" 100 HP to even feel like a bike is "fast enough" is silly.
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I really don't understand your use of the rolling eyes. Sounds like we're agreeing, mostly. Or not even discussing the same thing. I don't know...

Blue's observation remains... people thinking they "need" 100 HP to even feel like a bike is "fast enough" is silly.


more just my own confusion as to how I can prefer to ride a bike that is outperformed engine wise by my other bike..
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more just my own confusion as to how I can prefer to ride a bike that is outperformed engine wise by my other bike..


I found my CBRs to be the most boring bikes in the world under 100 MPH. When people say "just starting to get fun at 8000 RPM", it's generally true.
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I found my CBRs to be the most boring bikes in the world under 100 MPH. When people say "just starting to get fun at 8000 RPM", it's generally true.


exactly, it is a fantastic machine and other than ergonomics is better than my KTM ant every single thing on the pavement. Yet, I find myslef hopping on the KTM more often.. makes no sense if you simply look at the numbers, but the KTM is just more "fun"  
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exactly, it is a fantastic machine and other than ergonomics is better than my KTM ant every single thing on the pavement. Yet, I find myslef hopping on the KTM more often.. makes no sense if you simply look at the numbers, but the KTM is just more "fun"  


I think that pretty much defines - as best it can be - the 'mystique' or 'soul' so many people discuss. I maintain my 2008 Sportster was among the most fun and enjoyable bikes I ever owned. Fast? nope. Razor sharp handling? nope. But man oh man, was it fun to go ripping up the twisties on that thing.
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« Reply #79 on: December 26, 2012, 03:23:25 PM »

80hp would have been nice....but if my local Honda has it, i'll take it for a spin just to see what it is.
It may just be a nice city bike. But going up hill on the high way at 80mph....maybe not?  Headscratch
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I I maintain my 2008 Sportster was among the most fun and enjoyable bikes I ever owned. Fast? nope. Razor sharp handling? nope. But man oh man, was it fun to go ripping up slow poke in the twisties on that thing.


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« Reply #81 on: December 26, 2012, 04:08:58 PM »

To the engineers here (or anyone else who may know),

Why are the small displacement bikes typically parallel twins, as opposed to v-twins?  Aside from the Yamaha V Star 250, why don't the other makes utilize the V twin configuration?  Is it simply because the parallel design takes less space?
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« Reply #82 on: December 26, 2012, 05:19:52 PM »

they are just easier to produce less parts and what not.
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« Reply #83 on: December 26, 2012, 05:20:50 PM »

^^^Just a guess, but a vertical twin has one head not two, two cams (maybe) not four, so on and so forth = less $$$.^^^ And I don't think that big hp is needed for a "fun" bike, but if Honda wants to sell these things they ought to make them "better" than many of the older, cheaper used bikes that might be competing with for buyers $$$ or they will NOT sell worth a crap.  
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« Reply #84 on: December 27, 2012, 06:31:32 AM »

... and typically can rev higher without so many mechanical stressors.




FIFY.


Yes, because riding track speeds on track-spec bikes wishing and pretending you were on the track is really the best idea on the roads.



Also, you've never ridden with me, so your idea of slow may not be representative of others' skills, paces and enjoyment.

Thank god, you're here to make every god damned thing a competition.

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« Reply #85 on: December 27, 2012, 08:59:28 AM »

What is the average HP of the average 600 now?
70ish?
Good idea but well it just needs more kick if you ask me.
But I'll know better this summer when i take one for a spin.
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« Reply #86 on: December 27, 2012, 09:54:27 AM »


What is the average HP of the average 600 now?
70ish?
Good idea but well it just needs more kick if you ask me.
But I'll know better this summer when i take one for a spin.


I think the supersport 600's are a little over 100 Wink
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« Reply #87 on: December 27, 2012, 10:01:37 AM »


I think the supersport 600's are a little over 100 Wink

HOLY POOP! NO way! WOW!

HOLY FLAMING POOP!
WTF did honda do wrong on this one! 500CC should make 80hp!?
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« Reply #88 on: December 27, 2012, 10:11:03 AM »

a 500cc I-4 probably would Wink
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« Reply #89 on: December 27, 2012, 10:12:45 AM »


a 500cc I-4 probably would Wink

Well while we are having silly ideas...how abou ta 500CC V4?  Bigsmile
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« Reply #90 on: December 27, 2012, 10:19:00 AM »



HOLY POOP! NO way! WOW!
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HOLY FLAMING POOP!
WTF did honda do wrong on this one! 500CC should make 80hp!?


Really? Seriously, aren't you an engineer?
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« Reply #91 on: December 27, 2012, 10:20:35 AM »




Really? Seriously, aren't you an engineer?

Hey my old GPZ made all of 100hp...when it was new!
I need to stop riding old bikes and get my ass on a new on!
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« Reply #92 on: December 27, 2012, 10:23:54 AM »



Hey my old GPZ made all of 100hp...when it was new!
I need to stop riding old bikes and get my ass on a new on!


Well, yeah, sure, ok... I mean, that's a start.

But in general terms, aren't you aware of the measurement formula for hp? You need revs.  Modern I4 600s routinely rev to 12k, 15k, 16k+ and that's how they develop higher numbers... from piddly little torque numbers.

An engineer who has a passion for motorcycles should understand this.  Headscratch
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« Reply #93 on: December 27, 2012, 10:47:11 AM »

16k rpm  Drool Drool Drool Drool
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« Reply #95 on: December 27, 2012, 02:04:11 PM »


 
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You know...i wonder what the red line on the little 500 is?
Maybe what it lacks in HP it makes up in torque?
It may just be a fun little city bike.

That said you guys have to admit that spinning an engine at those speeds at night is very very sexy!
The blue flames out the booty is very sexy!
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« Reply #96 on: December 27, 2012, 02:58:56 PM »



Well while we are having silly ideas...how abou ta 500CC V4?  Bigsmile


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« Reply #97 on: December 27, 2012, 04:21:23 PM »


... and typically can rev higher without so many mechanical stressors.



Yes, because riding track speeds on track-spec bikes wishing and pretending you were on the track is really the best idea on the roads.



Also, you've never ridden with me, so your idea of slow may not be representative of others' skills, paces and enjoyment.

Thank god, you're here to make every god damned thing a competition.




Relax dude , you throw Rossi or Lorenzo on the Sportster and tell them to ride it at 100 % ,,,,,,, they would still look like slow poke to casual and unbiased observer .


BTW , how long was the line of RVs behind you when you were ripping those corners on Hd ?  Twofinger
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« Reply #98 on: December 27, 2012, 05:48:34 PM »


 

Relax dude , you throw Rossi or Lorenzo on the Sportster and tell them to ride it at 100 % ,,,,,,, they would still look like slow poke to casual and unbiased observer .


BTW , how long was the line of RVs behind you when you were ripping those corners on Hd ?  Twofinger


I'll giggle about that on the way to work tomorrow while I'm carving up traffic on my 16hp 200.
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I'll giggle about that on the way to work tomorrow while I'm carving up traffic on my 16hp 200.


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HOLY POOP! NO way! WOW!

HOLY FLAMING POOP!
WTF did honda do wrong on this one! 500CC should make 80hp!?


You fail to mention that the 2008 600RR won Sport Rider's 600cc shootout that year by a fairly healthy gap. Lol  The Triumph, which has the best power delivery curve, came in a distant, dead last.  A chart doesn't define a motorcycle.

But don't let facts get in they way.




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Hi all you will be very disappointed with CBR500R as a sports bike. It have lousy front suspension (not inverted type) and useless digital display. The sub-frames looks very cheap. The CBR500R comes with a low compression cylinder and it comes with low horse power( I expect 60HP with a 500cc). After I seen the real CBR500R at the Thai expo I really feel very down because I am expecting more from Honda even it was manufacture in Thailand plant like the NSR150RR( nice 2-stroke small Cc). I myself have ridden NSR150RR, CBR400RR, NSR250 MC28 and RVF400 NC35. It was a true disappointment from Honda comparing the Bikes that I have ridden and it's weight to power ratio! Get CBR600RR instead don't waste time because when you ride a sports bike you will eventually go down to track CBR500R needs heavy modifications just to have some fun!
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« Reply #102 on: January 01, 2013, 01:37:08 PM »

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You've never heard of the Persian Enema?


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Hi all you will be very disappointed with CBR500R as a sports bike. It have lousy front suspension (not inverted type) and useless digital display. The sub-frames looks very cheap. The CBR500R comes with a low compression cylinder and it comes with low horse power( I expect 60HP with a 500cc). After I seen the real CBR500R at the Thai expo I really feel very down because I am expecting more from Honda even it was manufacture in Thailand plant like the NSR150RR( nice 2-stroke small Cc). I myself have ridden NSR150RR, CBR400RR, NSR250 MC28 and RVF400 NC35. It was a true disappointment from Honda comparing the Bikes that I have ridden and it's weight to power ratio! Get CBR600RR instead don't waste time because when you ride a sports bike you will eventually go down to track CBR500R needs heavy modifications just to have some fun!

Honda managed to get the CBR500R, parallel twin budget bike to be the weapon of choice in the European Junior Cup — displacing the KTM 690 Duke.

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Well while we are having silly ideas...how abou ta 500CC V4?  Bigsmile


oh sure, you WOULD have to go out on a tangent like that. grr  i could for that. it would be nice to see an updated version.... hmmm
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Hi all you will be very disappointed with CBR500R as a sports bike. It have lousy front suspension (not inverted type) and useless digital display. The sub-frames looks very cheap. The CBR500R comes with a low compression cylinder and it comes with low horse power( I expect 60HP with a 500cc). After I seen the real CBR500R at the Thai expo I really feel very down because I am expecting more from Honda even it was manufacture in Thailand plant like the NSR150RR( nice 2-stroke small Cc). I myself have ridden NSR150RR, CBR400RR, NSR250 MC28 and RVF400 NC35. It was a true disappointment from Honda comparing the Bikes that I have ridden and it's weight to power ratio! Get CBR600RR instead don't waste time because when you ride a sports bike you will eventually go down to track CBR500R needs heavy modifications just to have some fun!


So.... you clearly understand the intention of the CBR500, then.  Thumbsup

 
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So.... you clearly understand the intention of the CBR500, then.  Thumbsup

 


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So.... you clearly understand the intention of the CBR500, then.  Thumbsup

 


Dude, it's a CBR500R. That makes all the difference.
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« Reply #111 on: January 02, 2013, 07:14:57 AM »

It needs one more R before I get worked up about it. If it had four Rs, hell, I'd be there with pitchforks and torches.

MORE Rs!!!!
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« Reply #112 on: January 02, 2013, 07:21:00 AM »

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« Reply #113 on: January 02, 2013, 07:59:15 AM »

My god, you guys have hit the nail on the head for what bikes I ride!

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