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« on: January 07, 2013, 08:57:04 AM »

Went down there Friday, very happy that it wasn't too crowded.  Have to apologize for less-than-beautiful iPhone pics.  Why I left one of the many real cameras at home is a mystery.



My kind of crowded.  Can't enjoy weekend days at NY show anymore.



The Honda CB1100 is not as gorgeous as the not-coming-to-the-us CB1300, but it is pretty.



Honda NC700X



Love the Ducati Hyperstrada.  Still a very funky riding position though.



The Hyperstrada's bags are kind of crappy though.



MotoGP bike display was neat, you could really poke around the bikes.



Colin Edwards' bike fresh from Valencia



I think this was Marc Marquez's Moto2 bike



New Triumph Trophy is quite a big beast



Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club display



Middle-aged white guys flock to the new water-cooled GS  Lol



I guess a winch lets you get stuck even further in the woods?



Harley's sparkle paint (?) looked very...interesting in person



Harley had a bike on rollers that they were using to teach folks how to shift.  I wouldn't buy one of these testers afterwards  EEK!



About 1/3 of the exhibit area was unused.  And this doesn't include space for the XDL stunt show.



Michael Jackson tribute bike.  Good grief.




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Harley had a bike on rollers that they were using to teach folks how to shift.  I wouldn't buy one of these testers afterwards  EEK!



That looks like our very own Prubert!!!

I had intended to go to the show, but it was on the same weekend I had my kids, so... I stayed local.
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Harley had a bike on rollers that they were using to teach folks how to shift.  I wouldn't buy one of these testers afterwards  EEK!



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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 09:17:33 AM »

Well, thank goodness we have stuff to make fun of.
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 09:22:05 AM »

I think the fan blowing the exhaust up is amusing.
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 09:44:27 AM »

so, was any manufacturer missing?

Any notable bikes missing from the show that you would have expected to see?

The Ducati girls don't look too impressive, maybe its just that their clothing was not very flattering.
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2013, 10:03:24 AM »


so, was any manufacturer missing?

Any notable bikes missing from the show that you would have expected to see?


Went Saturday.  Would've liked to see Moto Guzzi, Aprilia, MV Agusta, EBR.
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 10:06:41 AM »


so, was any manufacturer missing?

Any notable bikes missing from the show that you would have expected to see?

The Ducati girls don't look too impressive, maybe its just that their clothing was not very flattering.


No Aprilia, no Moto Guzzi, no KTM.  Victory had about 8 bikes in a tiny area off to the side, too close together to swing a leg over.  Triumph had a very respectable showing compared to years past.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2013, 10:08:38 AM »

Would have liked to seen the Ducati Diavel Strada.  The normal Diavel just makes no sense to me.  Shrug
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2013, 11:01:00 AM »

Nice pics, Ken.  Was the new trio of 500cc Hondas at the show, like the CB500X?




The Ducati girls don't look too impressive, maybe its just that their clothing was not very flattering.


I would need additional pics to make that assessment.  
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2013, 11:13:29 AM »


Nice pics, Ken.  Was the new trio of 500cc Hondas at the show, like the CB500X?

I would need additional pics to make that assessment.  


Yes, they had all the 500's.  Very impressed at that price point.

The Ducati girls were OK, a bit malnourished for my tastes though.  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2013, 11:16:44 AM »

Sheri and I plan to make a weekend out of the show in Charlotte this year.  I hope there are more vendors there.  
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2013, 11:21:10 AM »




That looks like our very own Prubert!!!





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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2013, 11:53:44 AM »

Way to go Ken... blow off an STN member when you're 4' away.   Rolleyes  Lol
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Went Saturday.  Would've liked to see Moto Guzzi, Aprilia, MV Agusta, EBR.


EBR had one bike in a teeny booth at Long Beach. Would have been easy to walk past it; in fact, I missed it my first time through.
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2013, 12:47:41 PM »

I've read it costs well into six figures for an OEM to have a booth at all the IMS events. Thats probably more than Moto Guzzi makes in North America  Lol.  Anyway, no way MG, Aprilia or EBR could burn those resources on the shows.
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2013, 12:50:50 PM »

Some bikes look great, even better, with bags and a windscreen. The Diavel is not one of them.
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Went Saturday.  Would've liked to see Moto Guzzi, Aprilia, MV Agusta, EBR.


Zero (electric bikes) had an exhibit.  One of the former Buell engineers/designers now works for Zero.  Is that close enough?  Bigsmile
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2013, 01:47:57 PM »


That looks like our very own Prubert!!!


Ken, sorry but I probably wouldn't have had a chance to talk while the show was on.  We ran 240 people thru the unit, it was going almost continuously.  

We put almost 200 miles on that bike over the weekend!
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Ken, sorry but I probably wouldn't have had a chance to talk while the show was on.  We ran 240 people thru the unit, it was going almost continuously.  

We put almost 200 miles on that bike over the weekend!


At least while I was there some of those miles were pretty painful  Lol

That said, I was pretty impressed with the H-D display.  Lots going on, what with the running unit, the "how to pick your bike up" demos, the Fat Boy mule with adjustable seat heights to try, etc.  A lot of opportunities to be actively involved.  The couple reps I talked to were very nice and quite knowledgeable.  
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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2013, 02:06:55 PM »

That looks like.... Headscratch
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2013, 02:26:18 PM »

Thanks for sharing the pics Ken.
I'm suppose to attend the NYC show, but after seeing this  Shrug  I'm having second thoughts.  
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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2013, 02:55:49 PM »

Thanks for the preview!  Thumbsup  I'm looking forward to attending the show in Novi, MI this year. Ducati won't be in MI but it doesn't matter to me... I'm looking forward to seeing Triumph again finally & hopefully the local Ural dealer! Cheers
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Harley's sparkle paint (?) looked very...interesting in person






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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2013, 05:21:42 PM »


Thanks for sharing the pics Ken.
I'm suppose to attend the NYC show, but after seeing this  Shrug I'm having second thoughts.  



I agree, the past few years has been a bit of a disappointment for me. The show used to be in Greenville SC, which is 2 hours from me, but now is in Charlotte which is just over 3 hours.
The show is in late February. I guess it will depend on how the weather will be between now and then.
If the weather sucks, I'll need a bike fix, if the weather is decent, I'll have ridden enough that I won't need  a fix and will skip the show.
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I agree, the past few years has been a bit of a disappointment for me. The show used to be in Greenville SC, which is 2 hours from me, but now is in Charlotte which is just over 3 hours.
The show is in late February. I guess it will depend on how the weather will be between now and then.
If the weather sucks, I'll need a bike fix, if the weather is decent, I'll have ridden enough that I won't need  a fix and will skip the show.



I will be working this show also....just working the floor this time.
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« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2013, 05:48:38 PM »

Thanks Ken for sharing the pics.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2013, 05:49:03 PM »


Thanks for sharing the pics Ken.
I'm suppose to attend the NYC show, but after seeing this  Shrug  I'm having second thoughts.   



Sam this is what the NY show looks like on a Saturday:



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« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2013, 05:57:02 PM »

I was there Saturday, with my main riding buddy Todd. Some memorable items:

Todd sat on the 50cc Ruckus and noticed that when he turned the handlebars, they went right into his knee. He asked the Honda rep if they made an adult-sized version. The rep's response: "If you know someone who can weld, you can put on a higher Yamaha bar." That's the answer, right from a Honda rep.

Todd called me over to the ~$22k Ducati Multistrada and made me sit on it. I had heard nothing but wonderful things about this bike for years, and this version is supposed to be even better. So tell me, when I slide my feet back on the pegs to get on my toes (like when I want to weight the pegs going into a corner), why does my heel land on the arm for the centerstand? I have no doubt I would eventually crash that bike in a left-hander, when my heel presses on the centerstand and levers the rear wheel off the ground while leaned over. Not to mention how uncomfortable that would be while droning down the highway; the movement of your feet is very limited. Same thing with the FJR, I discovered!

Todd was not familiar with Rotax, so he asked the Can-Am rep about it. The rep said it's basically a motor company known for making aircraft prop engines. So Todd, being a Beemerphile, asks, "So is it like a boxer motor?" The rep responds "sort of. It's got like three cylinders..."  At this point I walked away, because I already knew the Spyders have a 998cc V-twin motor, built by Rotax. The rep sounded like he was explaining a rotary engine.

And there was a CanAm 4-wheeler that looked pretty off-road bad-ass. Todd asked the rep standing next to it, what the fuel capacity was. He thought a minute and said "I think it's around 10 gallons, but I'm not sure." Then Todd asked what kind of fuel mileage it gets. The rep answers with, "Not sure but it's got about a HUNDRED horsepower," like we were supposed to be impressed. Todd counters with "So how much does it weigh?"  The answer was around 1100-1300 pounds. We did some quick math: 100hp motor, ~1200 lbs, ~10-gallon tank... maybe a range of 250-300 boring miles?

Very few dealer reps could give us the fuel capacity of the model they were standing next to. Someone told us scooters don't list mpg ratings because the EPA doesn't require them; although some admitted their maxi-scooters only got about 40-45mpg.

And I don't know why they stacked all the flashy pimped-out R1s and Hayabusas right inside the door, where most show-goers stopped and gawked, blocking the entrance for everyone else. And how about people standing in line for 20 minutes to get their "free gift" from Progressive? We got crappy key chains, but we went on our way out when everyone else was watching the crappy stunt show.

My opinion: I won't go to the DC show again. The show has been going downhill for years. They seem to cater to the ignorant, with the horrible stunt show and local dealer reps who don't know anything about the products they are selling.

And I REALLY don't like driving down to DC. I worked in DC as a police officer for almost 2 years; I hated that city then, and I hate it now. Can people cross the M-F'ing street without giving me hard looks while I wait for the light?! I thought they did that before because I was in a police cruiser, but they did it to me and my son while we were in my Forester. Not once, but at least half the time we were stopped at a light. People in DC like to give hard looks, almost like they're daring you to "say sumthin'!"  In contrast, if you give someone hard looks the same way in Philly, they take offense and shoot you in the gut. And not one person returned my smile the entire time I was in the city. Not the people scanning our tickets at the entrance to the show, not the dealer reps, not other show-goers. Most of the time, if you smile at people, they instinctively smile back. I honestly don't know what's wrong with DC, but I know I don't like being there. /endrant

I might try the NYC show next year, if it doesn't interfere with the 48hrs of TriState charity event we do every January. Actually, I might not bother at all. Americade is much better for seeing the bikes out in their natural habitat, and they even let you demo them. If I'm in the market, I'll make the effort to hit Americade, but I think I'm done with the IMS.
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« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2013, 07:47:53 PM »


And I REALLY don't like driving down to DC. I worked in DC as a police officer for almost 2 years; I hated that city then, and I hate it now. Can people cross the M-F'ing street without giving me hard looks while I wait for the light?! I thought they did that before because I was in a police cruiser, but they did it to me and my son while we were in my Forester. Not once, but at least half the time we were stopped at a light. People in DC like to give hard looks, almost like they're daring you to "say sumthin'!"


Maybe they remembered when you locked them up back in the day.  Bigsmile
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« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2013, 08:06:31 PM »

Someone get Bravo12 a drink or some medicine before he gets (even) older and crustier.  Bigsmile
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Someone get Bravo12 a drink or some medicine before he gets (even) older and crustier.  Bigsmile


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« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2013, 04:03:47 AM »

I've been to 3 NYC shows and 1 DC show; the NYC show is the "better" show, but man oh man, the crowds make it nearly impossible to navigate on anything but herd mentality.
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« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2013, 06:32:25 AM »

The only thing good about the NYC show is that well it's in NYC.
Which if you ask me is a great city.
Only issue I have is that they hold it in the winter which sucks for walking around and enjoying a day in a great city.
As for the show it self, it's usually so so to crap with the + being the strippers that get hired from the local Huslter club to stand next to the pimped out bikes.
Usually I go with friends on a Friday and we spend an entire day and much of the evening in the city.
Is it worth it? A day with good friends looking at bikes? Yes.
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« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2013, 10:30:19 AM »


The only thing good about the NYC show is that well it's in NYC.
Which if you ask me is a great city.
Only issue I have is that they hold it in the winter which sucks for walking around and enjoying a day in a great city.
As for the show it self, it's usually so so to crap with the + being the strippers that get hired from the local Huslter club to stand next to the pimped out bikes.
Usually I go with friends on a Friday and we spend an entire day and much of the evening in the city.
Is it worth it? A day with good friends looking at bikes? Yes.



+1.  I <3 NYC.  I'll have to keep a closer eye for the strippers next time, though.  

I took my family there last year and we had a lot of fun in the city for the rest of the day despite the cold.  We are debating whether to go back again in 2-weeks.  
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« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2013, 07:21:30 PM »




  We are debating whether to go back again in 2-weeks.  


Week from Friday (slightly less than 2 weeks, don't want you to miss the show and have to go to Novi, MI)
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« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2013, 04:54:46 AM »

Missed this because of other stuff. Thought about taking a charter from the baltimore bmw dealer for 60 buck to the NYC show but the pics pretty much put me off.

Has anyone done the Timonium MD show? Any good?
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« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2013, 04:59:56 AM »

Timonium is even worse than DC.
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« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2013, 05:24:55 AM »




I will be working this show also....just working the floor this time.


 Bigok  I'll see you there.  And, unlike Ken, I won't blow you off.   Bigsmile
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« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2013, 06:26:23 AM »


I've been to 3 NYC shows and 1 DC show; the NYC show is the "better" show, but man oh man, the crowds make it nearly impossible to navigate on anything but herd mentality.


Friday night or Sunday is the best time to go. Ever since Ken and I went on a Friday, I wouldn't go near the Javits Center that Saturday.

After saying that and seeing the pics, I may have to go to DC next year.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2013, 07:39:31 AM »




+1.  I <3 NYC.  I'll have to keep a closer eye for the strippers next time, though.  

I took my family there last year and we had a lot of fun in the city for the rest of the day despite the cold.  We are debating whether to go back again in 2-weeks.  

Well make a day of it you know...just don't go to the show...though it is a fun show for the kids. With the stunts and what not.
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Is one place I go, a friend use to bartend there. Prices are good and portion are very nice. Though they are under new owenrship and I'm not sure if they have changed anything.

Also, if its not too far of a drive for you to go back home, why not take the kids to see the Blue Man Group! It's an amazing show!

Just remember the city is not so much cold as FREAKING COLD in the winter with the wind and what not.

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« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2013, 08:30:00 AM »




 Bigok  I'll see you there.  And, unlike Ken, I won't blow you off.   Bigsmile


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« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2013, 08:37:12 AM »




  And, unlike Ken, I won't blow you off.   Bigsmile



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« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2013, 08:44:22 AM »

Was thinking of going this year w/ my son - I've not been for 3 yrs.  I was thinking of going into the show @ about 3pm on Sat.  Is it still crazy then?  As in years past I would get in @ 9am, but by noon, ya had to leave as it was too many peeps.  Or maybe I could do Sunday morning, but would want to be back in Pa by NFL games.

Nah, I'll probably factor on Sat. late afternoon, hit a party Sat. nite in NYC & see some friends, get up Sunday & head home
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« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2013, 05:03:11 PM »

Thanks for posting, Ken.  Went to DC show several years ago on Friday and really enjoyed it, although I was told that not all vendors were present on Fridays.  




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I noticed the same thing when I sat on one.   Never had that experience on my FJR though.  Hard to tell exactly where your feet will be when the bike is sitting stock still.  Tell you what though, if and when I ever buy that Ducati, first thing I will do if that peg bothers me is cut it off and weld it back on somewhere else.  I wouldn't let that one thing distract me from what is otherwise a great bike.  
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