Suzuki Turbo Neo-Cafe, the Recursion

[Roadscum]

The Gladius was new and different too...  

james

Just another SV650, no?

There is nothing like this thing in the market place now.

Regards, Paul

[Sport-Touring]

[gritsngravy]

I can see Suzuki releasing this thing pretty much as is maybe minus the touch pad switch gear.   Something like this fits right in with Suzuki's love of edgy styled specials.

[expatbrit]

Interestingly, a friend of mine had (until someone pulled across 3 lanes of traffic and stopped dead in his lane) a turbo SV650.

http://www.turbosystems.blogspot.com

The thing was damn cool. Really damn cool.

[Rincewind]

In short, I like it.  Suzuki's answer to the Yami triple.  This is getting interesting.  Europe... eat your heart out.

It also seems to be their answer to the NC700X in that they suggest the Recursion will get 50% better fuel mileage than typical 600cc supersports.  That could mean 60mpg or better.  However, unlike the NC700X, it seems like this thing is meant to put out prodigious amounts of power.

The Gladius was new and different too...  

james

And it's a damn good bike.  The new red frame for 2014 is very tasty.



[My wife's Gladius is for sale in the classifieds, btw.]  

[2RR2NV]

ya know, i like the looks of the Gladius, but it falls majorly short in the comfort dept. i sat on one and my butt started hurting within mins...  something about my boney butt. oh well.

[garry]

I like the concept of a lightweight, well-suspended twin with that kind of torque. I'm sure the edginess of the design will get dumbed down for production, but they could keep the fundamental idea in tact.

[Silverbird]

100hp from a 600?  What does the turbo do?

[Volfy]

100hp from a 600?  What does the turbo do?

74 lbs-ft of torque.  Get with the program now.  

My Gixxer 600 track bunny makes more than 100hp but to me, I dunno how people ride it on the street.  You have to wind that motor up to make any HP.  For a road bike, gimme area under the torque curve.

[Silverbird]

Dang that is a lot of torque. Anything that's not boring and conservative (caugh...caugh...The new Honda's suck, CAUGH) is all good in my book.

[Roadscum]

Tweak the boost just a bit and the numbers go way up. Tuners will fun with this thing if it does happen.

Reads, Paul

[Volfy]

The SFV650 is fundamentally a good bike.  Then again, so was the the SV650.  Instead of concentrating on refining the SV650, Suzuki waste R&D money on the lattice frame for sake of being trendy.  Then there's that gixxer stacked headlight that pervades the entire Suzuki line.  Looks awkward on most of them.  Yeah, you recognize it as a Suzuki alright, for the wrong reason.

The 90deg twin forces the seat height to be on the tall side, but Suzi wants to keep it "beginner friendly", so they carve the crap out of the seat foam and made it uncomfortable.

The FZ-09 is a prime example on how good the Japanese engineers can do a budget bike if they were given the right focus.  The Gladius shows how they fail miserably when they let marketing people calls the shots.

[Silverbird]

I wonder how or if they'll get around the lag, or is that an 80's thing? Haven't kept on turbo tech.

[Roadscum]

I wonder how or if they'll get around the lag, or is that an 80's thing? Haven't kept on turbo tech.

Pretty much a thing of the past. Can't be as bad as tha VFR VTEC.

Paul

[veefer800canuck]

I wonder how or if they'll get around the lag, or is that an 80's thing? Haven't kept on turbo tech.

New-tech turbos have much better design on the compressor and exhaust wheels. They spool up much faster. Variable vanes, twin scroll turbos, there's a lot of good stuff that makes them more user friendly nowadays. Electronics for the fuel and ignition help a lot, especially since they are tied to the boost levels. Makes off-boost fuelling and the transition onto boost a lot more manageable.