I can't feel sorry for "Roadrash Girl"

[Chet Ubetcha]

Sometimes even when you do fucking EVERYTHING right, shit happens.  I don't know how many people that were there are actually back on the board.  I was "blacklabel" on the old incarnation of ST.N. For those that don't know or don't remember, here's the story.  I guess she's a bigger man than I am, though...because I'm never getting back on that horse.  

http://www.bacomatic.org/%7Edw/rides/0625/nk.htm

Anyway....here we are, 5 months and 13 days.  I walked again.  It's only been five months, but it feels like I've been waiting SO long for this day.  I can't tell you in any words how it felt physically OR mentally.  I'm sorry for being so bitter about Roadrash Girl, but something finally broke...

[R Doug]

Congrats on walking again.  I'm sorry if I missed a previous post (perhaps before ST.N when down?), but what happened?

[bluepoof]

WOOHOO!!!!!!!!

That KICKS ASS.  You are such a frickin' superhero, and I truly mean that.    

WOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

[TheTick]

Wow.  That is harsh.  I am really glad you survived and am walking again.

[greench440]

Hey, I saw your original story, roadrashgirl's got nothing on you.  Glad to see you're walking.  
 
I don't think anyone feels sorry for roadrashgirl, the general reaction seems to be that it was an stupid series of decisions that could have minor if she had been smart enough to wear gear.
 
By your account, you made all the right choices and continue to do so.  I'd like to meet you one day.
 
Been wondering what happened to you, keep us posted.

[Max Wedge]

Congrats on the walking! What did cause it? Was it a deer or possibly mechanical failure?

[TalkingHead]

Congrats!!!!!!!!!!

[DogBoy]

Congrats!!!!!!!!!!

Hell Yeah!  Thanks for keeping us updated on your progresss.

[Orson]

Thanks for posting these pictures.
 
I'm still pulling for you

[toddrod]

hey!! thanks for sharing your progress Black Label! It's been awhile, and I'm glad that you are progressing.

I'm sending good thoughts your way.

[Bill Zabub]

Congratulations!!!

[Johnny Monsoon]

What a fantastic treat to hear from you!  I'm glad you're doing well.  I think about you often (no, you pervs, not in that way...) when I head out on the XX.  You're a constant companion, of sorts; or maybe a nagging voice in the back of my mind.

Congrats on your new freedom, it is well deserved.

[Tarka]

Respect.

[Gromit]

Respect.

+100  

[Ken]

Your post is inspirational and your courage and determination are tremendous. Congrats on your mental and physical recovery.

[JoBu]

Wow...congrats on walking again.  I can't even pretend to know what that must have felt like.  Please keep us updated on your progress.  You've got a lot of people pulling for you.

[RickC1957]

Awesome! Glad your coming along nicely! Is that what they call a "Cee" leg? It looks like one the US military uses them.

[oldenslow]

I never saw the earlier post either, but congratulations on your first steps.  

[RowdyRed94]

I'm sorry for your loss, Chet, and the big hurdle you're working through. I can see that you're the kind of man who won't let this keep you from living a whole life.

Best wishes, bud.

[zzkenoman]

Congrads on your recovery, I am also recovering from my own similar accident and very lucky that the cager didn't take my leg. I am recovering from a broken hip, lots of fractures and a separated shoulder.  Here are my photos  http://homepage.mac.com/artist.larrycrystal/PhotoAlbum18.html  

Get well, and wish you the best of holidays!

[Snowbird]

Hey, welcome back, Black Label. I posted on the old ST.N wondering how you were doing. I did not expect to see a progress report on you when I clicked on this thread, but I can see where you are coming from. Congratulations on your progress and keep us informed. I can only imagine how hard this is for you.

Black Label, be sure to look at this thread, so we don't lose your input:

http://www.sport-touring.net/forums/showthread.php?t=845

[PackMule]

Holy Fuck, BL.   I petered out on the old STn when the server got wonky -- missed the news of your accident.

Amazing how life can change in the blink of an eye.  Glad to see rehab is progressing.  Keep us posted on your progress.

[phoenix]

Hey, I saw your original story, roadrashgirl's got nothing on you. Glad to see you're walking.
 
I don't think anyone feels sorry for roadrashgirl, the general reaction seems to be that it was an stupid series of decisions that could have minor if she had been smart enough to wear gear.
 
By your account, you made all the right choices and continue to do so. I'd like to meet you one day.
 
Been wondering what happened to you, keep us posted.

 
my thoughts exactly. Cheers to you Chet/blacklabel.

[Tyrroneous]

This is great news BL.  5 months must've felt like an eternity.  I'm impressed by your will and determination.  Thanks for being a great example of what a positive attitude and a lot of grit and determination can accomplish.  

[Heath3n]

I'm sad to hear that it take more than a large percentage of a person's body to be covered with road rash before you can drum up any sympathy.
 
For the record...I feel sorry for both of you. I couldn't even begin to understand the pain both physically and mentally that has been suffered and I pray I never have to. From what I've gathered...no one really knows how your crash occured (unless I missed something) and it could have been just as stupid of a sequence of events as road rash girl. Fortunately you were smart enough to have on gear and it looks like you're moving on and well on the way to recovery. Congrats!

[spinalator]

I was wondering how you are doing, as I did not know of the name change. Good to see you are up and about, kudos for the recovery!

[Snowbird]

I'm sad to hear that it take more than a large percentage of a person's body to be covered with road rash before you can drum up any sympathy.

Heath has a point, I guess. But we motorcyclists somehow deceive ourselves into thinking we can control our destinies. Sadly, ultimately, we cannot.

[chornbe]

I'm sad to hear that it take more than a large percentage of a person's body to be covered with road rash before you can drum up any sympathy.
 
For the record...I feel sorry for both of you. I couldn't even begin to understand the pain both physically and mentally that has been suffered and I pray I never have to. From what I've gathered...no one really knows how your crash occured (unless I missed something) and it could have been just as stupid of a sequence of events as road rash girl. Fortunately you were smart enough to have on gear and it looks like you're moving on and well on the way to recovery. Congrats!

I don't feel sorry. I do feel bad that he got hurt, but I don't pity him or feel sorry for him. Facts is facts, folks... motorcycle vs. tree, road, car, truck, deer, etc., the motorcycle comes up the loser almost every time. We all know this. We all mount up anyway.


He, like every one of us, weighed the risk vs. reward of riding, and made a choice. He lost that day. Roadrash chick lost that day. But no one holds a gun to any of our heads and demands we ride. We make this choice. We pay the price some times. And while many collisions may be caused (directly or indirectly) by a driver in car or truck, the blame for being in that situation in the first place is ours alone.


And such is life.

[mxvet57]

congrats on walking again.
 
 i do remember your origanal story when it all happend. and just looked at it again. i still cant amagen what you were feeling when this was happening.
 
I have ben wondering where you have ben and how you were doing.
 
i can relate with what you are going through b/c i have a friend that was parlised from the wast down and today he can walk with the help of a cane.
 
dude keep your head up and you can beat the odds.
 
BTW i saw a pic of roadrash girl and she still dresses like a squid.

[jschmidt]

Nice lookin' leg. Congrats.
 
BTW Roadrash Girl is now doing public appearances at bike shows, presumably for a fee. Go figure.

[PackMule]

 
BTW Roadrash Girl is now doing public appearances at bike shows, presumably for a fee. Go figure.

Why do you say that like it's a bad thing?  If she can keep even one person from making the same, stupid, painful mistake that she did, why not spread the message?  If she's as articulate as the year-later article, she could be a good ambassador (though looking at her myspace page, I somehow doubt it).


Who's to say that BL won't go on to be an inspiration for amputees?

[Montyburns]

BL- Like Monsoon, after reading the original post about your accident, I've thought about you a lot and wondered how your are doing.  Every time I read about an accident I look for the thing that the rider was doing wrong (speed, conditions, decision making, etc) and then try to convince myself that I will not make similar mistakes.  However, when I read the post on your accident and saw that your are a very experienced and responsible rider and still had such a horrible accident, it really had an effect on me.  I don't know if you will every feel up to it, but I think that a lot of us could benefit from hearing your thoughts on riding, the risks vs. the rewards for you, and what you would or wouldn't do differently if you could do it all over again.  If that is not something you want to talk about, I sincerely hope you keep us updated on your life and your progress.  I think almost every one of us knows the same thing can happen to us.  

[Busa@11K]

Sometimes even when you do fucking EVERYTHING right, shit happens.  

Sorry to hear about your accident.  Yeah, I have to agree and say that the uncontrolled variables of riding a motorcycle is the only thing I don't like about the sport.  Sometimes it comes down to timing and luck, sometimes it comes down to variables that are no controllable as a rider.

Glad to hear you're making a good recovery and keep up the great work and attitude.

[tenbears]

First time I came across this, and its a very graphic lesson in what not to wear.

I think she's a very spunky lass and respect her massively for getting back on... and yes, I would.  

[OrangeSVS]

Congrats, ubetcha/blacklabel.

Hope you're still getting enjoyment outta that Strat!    

[tenbears]

 but something finally broke...

Jeeze... that's a badie... I feel for ya man. Hitting anything on an off is going to do serious damage. In my near on 30 years I've been extremely lucky... even in my despatching days in London... and despite being hit head on I've always walked away.

All the best for Chrimbo, m8.

[Bodhi]

Probably because your lights were off.

[Chet Ubetcha]

BL- Like Monsoon, after reading the original post about your accident, I've thought about you a lot and wondered how your are doing.  Every time I read about an accident I look for the thing that the rider was doing wrong (speed, conditions, decision making, etc) and then try to convince myself that I will not make similar mistakes.  However, when I read the post on your accident and saw that your are a very experienced and responsible rider and still had such a horrible accident, it really had an effect on me.  I don't know if you will every feel up to it, but I think that a lot of us could benefit from hearing your thoughts on riding, the risks vs. the rewards for you, and what you would or wouldn't do differently if you could do it all over again.  If that is not something you want to talk about, I sincerely hope you keep us updated on your life and your progress.  I think almost every one of us knows the same thing can happen to us.  

I can't thank everyone enough for what all has been said.  This is a really good idea, Monty.  Hopefully I'll get to an "in-depth article" like the "Queen of Road Rash" has done for that magazine.  

I stopped coming by the board for a while because I mentally couldn't be around active motorcycling.  I just wasn't ready for that yet.  I couldn't even see all my motorcycle magazines when they came in the mail.  My wife would drop them right in the garbage before the rest of the mail even made it to the counter.  

Things have gotten better upstairs.  I've had countless dreams of crashing since the accident.  Most of them involved blowing a corner in one way or another.  I don't remember the specific details of them beyond that, but I know that I've had them.  I have also had a handful of dreams where I bought another motorcycle post-accident.  It has always been a green Kawasaki Ninja 250....can't tell you why!  Anyway, no matter how many dreams I have, I have gotten better with being around motorcycling.  Even if I'm ever physically and mentally able to ride again, I'd never put my wife and kid(s) through the worry every single time I saddle up.  

Memory-wise, nothing has changed.  I still have no idea what happened.  No further ideas have surfaced, and I haven't seen the motorcycle.  Hell, I haven't even seen the Wing Safety report that was done on me!  Although I really do believe that some day in the future some time I'll see those final moments through my eyes either in a dream or as a sudden memory, I'm finally alright wiht the fact that I'm not going to know for the time being.  I may NEVER know, but it's not going to hound me anymore as it did in the beginning.

Some relevant things have been said so far.  One thing I'd like to address personally is that the ONLY similarity between RRG's accident and my own accident is the fact that we were both on motorcycles.  I try hard every single day not to be bitter about my situation, especially when I see someone streaking down the highway at insane speeds with nothing more than a pair of shorts and sneakers on.  Being on (and then OFF) a motorcycle is where the similarities end.  I WASN'T] going 120mph, I wasn't unaware of my surroundings, I wasn't underdressed, and I DIDN'T have a devil-may-care attitude about motorcycles and riding.  People treat these things like toys, when they aren't.  I hate to sound like I'm on some high horse, because I'm not.  However, there are serious differences between our thoughts and our actions pertaining to the world of motorcycling.  We both ended up seriously fucked up.  So, who was right in the long run...?

Other than that, I'm really not extremely bitter or upset about everything that has happened so far.  I believe that God has a plan for everyone and their life.  Whether that is what YOU believe or not is up to you.  However, I kinda have to believe that right now, otherwise I'd just end up crying myself to sleep everynight wondering what I did to deserve all this.  I had to make a conscious decision a while back and decided that I need to still be an active member of my family.  THEY certainly don't deserve this, so I am not going to make their lives any harder than it needs to be.  I think I've had a good outlook on things.  I have my days, but who wouldn't in a situation like this?  My wife has been my angel.  She became pregnant in the two weeks between my return from deployment and my accident (high five Nick!!!:D), and she has had a rough pregnancy so far.  She is sick every single day.  She has to take care of me now as well as our daughter.  On top of that she is still active duty Air Force.  I can't thank her enough for everything she does.

As evident by the pictures above, I finally got my prosthesis on Friday.  It's taken so long due to the extensive damage in my left knee and how unstable it's been.  Also, due to the lack of use, a contracture of my ankle has developed, and it takes quite a bit of coaxing to get my left foot to go plantar and beyond.  Some days it just won't go 90 degrees and I have to work with what I have.  Luckily, Friday was a good day for my ankle and knee, and the initial introduction with the leg went very well.  I refrain from saying it was easier than I expected to be, because God knows this shit isn't easy and I haven't even SEEN the tip of the iceberg yet, but it was definitely a different experience than I thought it would be...in a good way.  I have waited so long for this, and I'm really excited about the future therapy with it.  My wife was tearing up when she saw the smile that wouldn't leave my face.  

Future...  well, my future in the Air Force is still undecided by TPTB.  although I still get the smoke blown up my ass about how there shouldn't be any reason I can't remain on duty, I'm fully prepared now (and possibly even looking forward to) for life on the "outside".  I plan on attending the Luthier Institute in Vancouver for guitar repair and luthiery.  I then want to possibly work for myself doing local repairs and setup as well as possibly getting contract work from larger guitar chains such as Guitar Center and Sam Ash, who usually don't do in-house repair work.  I think this would be a great possibility to supplement whatever disability/VA money I'll be getting.  We'll still get the bills paid, and that is all that matters.  I'm working on my degree (which I've started accelerating again), and may one day try to follow a path to being a Physical Therapist.  Though working with older patients (such as in the VA) doesn't really interest me, I now have a soft spot for wanting to help those with lots of life left who have been in some sort of accident or something similar.  By the same token, I still would love to finish out my Air Force career and retire.  I want to retire, not seperate.  But, I'm not the one who makes the plans...

Anyway, that's where I'm at right now, physically and mentally.  I'm not afraid or upset in the least to talk about the accident and my life afterwards.  If anyone has any specific questions, feel free to ask.  I hope I've cleared up some questions that some people have had.  Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the thoughts, prayers, and general good karma sent my way.  I'm surprised and thrilled to see that so many people not only remember the accident, but still think about it on a regular basis and may use my misfortune to plant that bug in their ear when they may be thinking about doing something stupid, or even if it just helps keep in mind that anything can happen at any time.  

Thanks again!

[Chet Ubetcha]

Congrats, ubetcha/blacklabel.

Hope you're still getting enjoyment outta that Strat!    

Hahahaha....  I still have it, though it hasn't left the closet since I got home from Jordan!  I recently bought a 1978 Gibson Les Paul Custom which has been getting quite a bit of playtime.  

[boxjoint]

 I plan on attending the Luthier Institute in Vancouver for guitar repair and luthiery.  I then want to possibly work for myself doing local repairs and setup as well as possibly getting contract work from larger guitar chains such as Guitar Center and Sam Ash, who usually don't do in-house repair work.  I think this would be a great possibility to supplement whatever disability/VA money I'll be getting.  We'll still get the bills paid, and that is all that matters.

Cool. I have been doing woodwork for about 12 years now and started out by working on my own guitars and eventually building them. I don't play anymore (or build guitars anymore mostly furniture) but here is a good recource for you:
http://www.grizzlyindustrial.com

They sell woodworking machinery mostly but the president is a luthier himself. They have a supplimental catolog along with their industrial machinery that sells frettting supplies, wiring, fingerboard radiousing jigs et..

Good luck in your endevor and keep those spirits up!

[PhilBiker]

Heath has a point, I guess. But we motorcyclists somehow deceive ourselves into thinking we can control our destinies. Sadly, ultimately, we cannot.

For many this believe is part of our ISTP personality type.

Chet, congrats on getting the prosthesis.  I'm sure you will do well in life with your attitude.

[Montyburns]

BL- Thanks for the update and response to my post.  FWIW, I don't think most of us have ever even thought to compare you with "Roadrash Girl."  Roadrash Girl is a kid who made a stupid mistake and paid the consequences.  From everything that I've read from and about you, you seem to be an intelligent, responsible person who knew of and respected the risks of motorcycling but loved it just the same.  In other words, you are just like most of us on this board.  Frankly, if someone sat me down today and told me that if I continued riding a motorcycle I would have to go through what you are going through, I'd never get on one again.  I think that is why your accident has had such an impact on me.  I hate to admit this but it's difficult to get rid of the belief that, although there are risks to motorcycling, as long as I'm responsible they won't happen to me.  Your accident makes it very clear how naive that belief is.  

I hope that you continue to come around and keep us apprised of your progress and help keep us all in line when we are feeling invincible.  Your story is both tragic and inspiring and, riding or not, you are an extremely valuable member of this forum.  

[PackMule]

You are a good, good man, Chet.


Thanks for the window of insight.  

[blueridgerider]

Hey, I saw your original story, roadrashgirl's got nothing on you.  Glad to see you're walking.  
 
I don't think anyone feels sorry for roadrashgirl,

Speak for yourself.


First off Chet Ubetcha/blacklabel - things happen which we have no control over and I am glad that you are walking again.  My prayers go out to you in your continued recovery and new life circumstances.

I can certainly understand your feelings towards roadrashgirl.  A certain amount of bitterness is to be expected.

I do feel sorry for roadrashgirl.  Who here can say they have never been a victim, or potential victim of their own stupidity.  In chet's situation I would probably feel differently, but I'm not there.  She made some stupid decisions, but I myself am not blameless in that and did some really stupid things in my "old enough to know better, too young to care" stage.

[TalkingHead]

Probably because your lights were off.

Doooooooood.......  

[TalkingHead]

  I plan on attending the Luthier Institute in Vancouver for guitar repair and luthiery.  I then want to possibly work for myself doing local repairs and setup as well as possibly getting contract work from larger guitar chains such as Guitar Center and Sam Ash, who usually don't do in-house repair work.  I think this would be a great possibility to supplement whatever disability/VA money I'll be getting.  We'll still get the bills paid, and that is all that matters.  I'm working on my degree (which I've started accelerating again), and may one day try to follow a path to being a Physical Therapist.  Though working with older patients (such as in the VA) doesn't really interest me, I now have a soft spot for wanting to help those with lots of life left who have been in some sort of accident or something similar.  By the same token, I still would love to finish out my Air Force career and retire.  I want to retire, not seperate.  But, I'm not the one who makes the plans...

Anyway, that's where I'm at right now, physically and mentally.  I'm not afraid or upset in the least to talk about the accident and my life afterwards.  If anyone has any specific questions, feel free to ask.  I hope I've cleared up some questions that some people have had.  Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the thoughts, prayers, and general good karma sent my way.  I'm surprised and thrilled to see that so many people not only remember the accident, but still think about it on a regular basis and may use my misfortune to plant that bug in their ear when they may be thinking about doing something stupid, or even if it just helps keep in mind that anything can happen at any time.  

Thanks again!

You're definitely an inspiration man!

[keeptryn]

As some have said in so many words - shit happens.  One can do all the right things but shit can still happen.  I try to do what I can to manage the risks in motorcycling (wear good gear, improve my skills, defensive riding, etc) but I know there are many things beyond my control.  I have a tough time with this but I continue to ride.  If I get into a serious accident leaving me disabled or dead then all the benefits and enjoyment I would have gotten out of motorcycling will not have been worth it.  Not at all.  But, and this is what we all think if we keep riding, I believe it will not happen to me.   On the other hand I've been around long enough to realize that shit can happen anywhere to anyone at anytime.  I just don't think it will happen to me on a motorcycle.  I'm not saying I'm a better rider or more skillful.  I just don't think it will happen.

Finally, I admire anyone who can productively overcome the pain, suffering and adversity of a serious accident whether they were safety conscious or not prior and during the accident - that does not matter.  How they handle their life post-accident is what matters.  

[PhilBiker]

I do feel sorry for roadrashgirl.  Who here can say they have never been a victim, or potential victim of their own stupidity.  In chet's situation I would probably feel differently, but I'm not there.  She made some stupid decisions, but I myself am not blameless in that and did some really stupid things in my "old enough to know better, too young to care" stage.

You mean we grow out of that stage?

[SPEEDMARK]

I clearly remember the original post about your accident.  I'm more of a lurker on this forum and tend to get most of my news "in-person" from various members that I'm friends with in real life. (read: Not online!)

Your candor in this thread and your attitude toward continued recovery is inspirational.  I hope, as others have expressed, that you'll continue to keep us.....your online friends.....apprised of your progress.  Best of luck to you & your soon-to-be-larger family.

~^SPEEDMark

[sagerat]

I remember the original post because I came to a complete brainlock, jawdrop, OMIGAWD reaction.  One of our own went down and went down hard.

I am so happy that your recovery is going well and I hope you and yours have nothing but good things whether it's in the Air Force or the civvy world.

Good luck, BL.  

[jed]

Thanks for the update BL!  Keep us posted on how your doing.  And yell at us when you need to vent!

[Cricket]

Chet glad to see you doing so much better .

Been wonder about how you were doing with your accident. I see everything is starting to come back together for you .
 
Congratulation on the new one on they way that will keep you real busy.  

[Snowbird]

I'm never getting back on that horse. 

I don't "blame" you and I do not "blame" you for the bitterness you have expressed. The price you've paid is too high for nearly anyone. There *might* be someone out there who could keep on keepin' on... but it probably isn't me and I hope I never have the opportunity to find out.

At the end of August my passenger and I took a fall on spilled gasoline at a rural intersection. She was unhurt but I broke my ankle. That's a far cry from what's happened to you, but it does give me a bit of insight.... and I'll admit that an injury will give one pause. But I'm back riding.

Motorcycling is not the only activity that comes with the possiblity of injury, and you don't have to be going like hell to suffer a life-long injury. This prospect is a really tough aspect of life.

If there is one thing I take from your injury it is this: There is no need for simple road signs to be a deadly obstacle to motorcyclists. Believe me, plenty of research has gone into making sure auto drivers are not injured by signs. There's no reason motorcyclists need to be satisfied by the current sate of affairs. Contact your local MRO and bring up the issue of roadside hazards. Signs are already break-away, but there's no reason they have to be made of metal.

[bucman20]

It's all been said, but your making my bumps in the road look pretty miniscule! Keep it up!

[Snowbird]

For many this believe is part of our ISTP personality type.

Where'd you get that? It sounds like me... surprise, surprise.  

[Heath3n]

...but I broke my ankle. That's a far cry from what's happened to you, but it does give me a bit of insight.... and I'll admit that an injury will give one pause.  

You're kidding right? You broke a bone that healed itself up almost as good as new. He lost half his frking leg!! Then you bring in the psychological portion of his injury and that's just as difficult if not more difficult than the physical loss. To even think you gained insight from a broken ankle as to what it means to lose half of one of your major limbs is not only ignorant, it's an insult to those that have.

-Rob

[Memphis675]

Good for you.  Keep on keeping on.

[steve.ski]

Awesome. Courage personified.

Congrats on your new steps. No doubt you will have in mastered in no time!!

[roadrailer]

Glad to hear of the improvement, Chet! Keep making progress, we're pulling for you.

[Chet Ubetcha]

Thanks again to everyone for all the words.  

Snowbird, I understand what you meant by having "insight".  ANY incident related to your chosen sport/hobby is going to ring a bell and make you look closer at the possible consequences for every action taken.  As said, it's nowhere near what I experienced, but I truly to understand your point of view.  I don't compare my injuries to anyone else.  Every situation is different and personal to the one affected.  What you experienced was traumatic for the level of injury sustained and as stated, the psychological effects will linger much longer than the physical.  I'm glad you are riding again.

I'm not anti-motorcycle.  I still love motorcycles.  I love watcing racing.  I may even one day have the Kay-Jones to once again saddle up, but I won't do it.  As said, my priorities now lie with my family.  I can't even begin to imagine what my wife was going through when she got that call.  THAT will haunt me forever.  I never want to make her feel that way again.  If I were to start riding again, she would be going crazy with worry from the moment I leave until the moment I come home.  Doesn't matter if I'm just commuting to work...she'll worry.  And my job now is to take as much weight as I can off her shoulders.  I'll never make her worry like that again.

I had been talking to my sister who is a life-long medic, and she has a theory about how my leg was traumatically amputated...that doesn't involve a roadsign.  She thinks that when the bike tipped, it broke the bones clear in half, and the sharp edges sliced through the muscle, tendon, and skin, and the leg was "pulled" apart, rather than sheared off by a roadsign.  It makes sense.  My doc thinks it's a very good possibility, being the lack of impact evidence on my Aerostich.  It would also explain why the knee sustained so much soft tissue damage and became useless...which is why I went back in and became an AK amputee (above knee).

I don't know if it was mentioned, but I'm a Motorcycle Safety Foundation instructor/RiderCoach.  I've toyed with the idea of going and sitting in on a class when I'm able.  Just to watch and maybe get spun up on some of the changes.  I wouldn't be there for my story, it would be for my reintroduction to motorcycling.  

However, it's inevitable that a student is going to go down on the range.  Most of the time it is a simple dump from GRABBING the front brake lever in a corner.  Unfortunately I don't know how I'll react to that.  I don't know that I won't freak out or have flashbacks.  I can' ttake that chance around students.  It's not fair to them, and it may not be safe for them, either.  I've got until June to think about it, as I've already completed the required number of classes taught and education, but I don't think I'm going to renew my MSF instructor card.  It was something I loved to do, but I dont' know if my brain will let me still enjoy it the same way I used to.  That's the part that sucks.

Anyway, I'm falling asleep here.  Thanks again.

-nick

[arkansawyer]

I'm glad you're finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel.  I have been worried about you.
That is a genuine smile in your last picture.  

[Snowbird]

You're kidding right? You broke a bone that healed itself up almost as good as new. He lost half his frking leg!! Then you bring in the psychological portion of his injury and that's just as difficult if not more difficult than the physical loss. To even think you gained insight from a broken ankle as to what it means to lose half of one of your major limbs is not only ignorant, it's an insult to those that have.

-Rob

Hey, Heath3... up yers. Read before posting crap flames, ok? And don't put words into my mouth.

Snowbird, I understand what you meant by having "insight".  ANY incident related to your chosen sport/hobby is going to ring a bell and make you look closer at the possible consequences for every action taken.  As said, it's nowhere near what I experienced... 

Yes, that is what I meant.

And while Heath made a point, it was not appropriate to direct a flame at me..

[Heath3n]

Hey, Heath3... up yers.

Nice comeback. I stand by what I said. Get over it.

[sagerat]

Geez, fellow rider loses a leg and you guys start a pissing match over quotes and misquotes.  

Anyways, Chet, you could just do the lecture part of the MSF class and skip the range drills.  

[Montyburns]

Geez, fellow rider loses a leg and you guys start a pissing match over quotes and misquotes.  

Well said.  Isn't this what PMs are for?

[Snowbird]

Geez, fellow rider loses a leg and you guys start a pissing match over quotes and misquotes.

I fully agree with you on this and fretted to myself most of the day over it. This thread isn't about Snowbird or Heath. Thank you for saying what I was thinking.  

[hambone_p]

I would like to thank everyone who has posted in this and other safety/accident specific forums.  

Chet, I wasn't on the old board, I don't know you, but I empathize with you. Maybe it has something to do with the level of trauma you experienced, maybe it's because I'm on my way to becoming as much of a motorcycle enthusiast as you have been, I'm not sure, nevertheless I'm moved by your ordeal.  It's in a different way, not just a different level, than the way I react to hearing rrgirls story. What you've said fortifies my objective to do everything "right", because, as you've said, sometimes you do and you still suffer.  I'll sign up for another course in the spring.  I was planing on it, but now I will make sure I do it. More gear etc...

There is risk in everything.  I was mulling all this over this afternoon while ripping some white oak on a table saw. Hmmm...maybe I should have given that all of my concentration . This is my first year riding so I'm sure I've ripped/planed/joined/nailed more miles of lumber than I've ridden. Still...We all say it won't be me, but someone is going to draw the short straw. All any of us can do is mitigate the risks.

Your story is the kind that sticks, and changes behaviours.  I know it will impact mine.  Her story is of someone making a mistake and paying a high price for it.  It's a different story, but after hearing hers, my wife has had her last ride on the back of my bike till she gets some gear.  So I guess I've learned from her as well.  

Well this is getting loong So let me just say thanks to everyone else. If it was just Chet this wouldn't be a forum, and I would have missed out mulling over everyone's points, even the potential flames .

[forester]

Man, all I remember is the panda in the car avatar.  I had no idea of any accident event, the last time I knew, your avatar had something regarding location of Amman, Jordan or something similar, so I suspected you were in the armed services.  That's all I knew.  Man, that is a crazy series of events.

I am sorry to hear about the crash and associated curiousity of what happened during that corner, but I am glad you are doing better and keeping a positive attitude.  I seriously hope that someday you have an experience that "realizes" that green ninja 250.

Best wishes to a speedy recovery and don't skimp on the guitars!!!

[Capirex]

Nick
Just wanted to echo what most everyone has already said.  I admire your courage and you have been in my thoughts.  Thanks for keeping us updated.  Hope you have a great holiday season.  

[Mrs. DantesDame]

That's a beautiful smile. I'm glad that you're able to show it. Thanks for sharing the pics, and I wish you the best  

[arkansawyer]

Chet Atkins?

[lockheed]

chet! what an inspiration, man! kudos on the positive attitude shown...!!
 

[Chet Ubetcha]

This "walking" thing is harder than it looks!!!    I'm only a few days into this...haven't even gotten to the hard part yet...and I feel like I've gone five rounds in a UFC title fight.  I'm beat to hell!  

Thanks again for all the kind words, though.  Really, I appreciate it.

Jeff, I know I owe you a long e-mail. I'll get it out to you soon.  Seriously, though, this therapy has been sucking the life out of me, and I haven't even started the two-a-days yet!  I haven't forgotten about you.  I hope you and your family are doing very well.  I hope to have you guys visit us sometime soon.  I'm sorry for such a short stay last time, but I was starting to hurt, and Liz is having a REAL rough go of it this time around.  We'll get together soon, though.  I promise.  I can't thank you enough for everything you've done for me.  I'll say it here publicly:  Arkansawyer, who lives over an hour away, has been here for me more than anyone else (besides my family) who are local and live less than ten minutes away.  It's times like this you find out who your real friends are.  I can't thank you enough.  I really mean that.  Liz feels the same way.  Thank you.

[arkansawyer]

My wife didn't have an easy pregnancy so I understand.  I'm glad you're handling everything.

[arkansawyer]

I saw a TV show tonight about Dana Bowman.  Have you ever heard about him?

[Chet Ubetcha]

No, sure haven't.  Now you are going to make me utilize Google!  

Well, it's getting a little easier.  I use the term "little" gently, because it's still not easy by any means.  Some of the pain is receding, but I've still got quite a bit of consistent nerve pain.

I'm going to be going back in-patient at the VA on 8 January, right after the holidays and we get back from the Sugar Bowl.  It's only going to be for three weeks, though.  Neither of us are too thrilled about it, but my KT says that after these three intense weeks of work, I should be done and good to go.  With what he sees right now, he thinks I'll be up walking out of the VA this time.  I don't doubt him, but I can't even picture that right now.  I'm putting everything I have into it, though!

If I don't talk to everyone, have a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, or whatever kooky holiday it may be that you celebrate this time of year!  

[Orson]

With what he sees right now, he thinks I'll be up walking out of the VA this time.

 

[ST4Fun]

Both Roadrash girl and you seem to be fine examples of the human spirit. She didn't loose a leg, and is back on the horse. You really don't have that option...that's OK. You both have gone through enough trauma to last a lifetime, you both will be stronger because of it, and I wish you the best. She was young, inexperienced, and stupid...you did everything right and nothing wrong, yet you both got screwed, sort of speak. Life isn't fair sometimes.... but you both will be just fine, I sincerely hope. Take care, your feelings are understandable, you both seem to be strong individuals. Best of luck, Robert.

[With_him]

Chet,
We don't know each other, but just sent a message upstairs to the Guy in the Sky for you.  I have read the thread and your story on the linked page, but I am new and don't know anything about Road Rash Girl or her story, can someone provide a link or more direction about where to go and look?

Chet, once again I pray that out of this adversity you and your family would grow stronger; and for peace, grace and strength to endure the journey.

[HankB]

Well... That's a real eye opener. I should be heading for Mountain Home in a couple of days. I'll probably be riding that road. This summer a friend took out a fence post with his arm (tried anyway.) He didn't lose the arm, but that was in July and he's still rehabbing it. As for me, I broke my leg taking a bad step off the train in April and it still bothers me. It was pretty minor compared to your injuries, so you have my sympathies on the effort and discomfort involved in your recovery. The fact that you're where you are says a lot about your attitude and determination. Keep it up!

As far as recalling the incident - if there was *any* sort of bouncing of the head (even within the protection of a helmet) the minor concussion prevents short term memories from being converted to long term memories. It's pretty common and pretty unlikely that the memories will return. (Note: I'm not a doctor and it's been a while since I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

Keep working at it and good luck with the rest of your recovery.

-hank

[Snowbird]

For the record, I feel sorry for all riders injured, regardless of how they may have contributed to their plight.  

[latech70]

BlackLabel,

Glad to see you're getting up and around.  I have been absent from ST.N for quite some time so this was a shock to me when I saw it.  Oh, and I recently passed through your area two or three times going to Memphis when my brother was in the hospital.  I thought about ya when I passed through there and saw the sign for Jacksonville--was thinking, "yeah, I know a guy up there who is a fellow IBA member."

Anywho, take care of yourself and continue to let us know how you're doing.





(edited to correct a typo)

[Johnny Monsoon]

Nice lookin' leg. Congrats.

You know, I have to agree.  That's a slick looking piece of hardware!!!  I hope you don't take that as any insensitivity, but I'm very interested in developing prosthetic limbs (and other devices to help folks out) and that is a nice design.  

[Chet Ubetcha]

No, no insensitivity at all.  I don't get offended or upset about any of this very easily.

I've got the C-Leg by Otto Bock.  It's made in Austria.  Damn thing costs more than my truck!  That contraption runs about $50k, total!

Check out www.ottobockus.com

Hope everyone had a good Christmas and have a happy and safe New Year.  I'll be heading for New Orleans on Tuesday for the Sugar Bowl!!!

Then, on 8 Jan I go back in-patient for three weeks.  We collectively decided that doing three weeks of aggressive therapy day in and day out would be better than dragging this all out for another two, three, or even four months by out-patient.  I'm not really looking forward to leaving my family again, but I thikn that it's for the best.

[jsanford]

Wow. I've heard of the C-Leg from Doonesbury.

I missed the thread the first time around...but read the archive this time. It's good for us, I think, to have a little peek into the reality of when it goes wrong.  Somehow I get that more from these photos than I do from roadrashgirl's, but that's me and hers had an impact as well.

Best wishes for a textbook recovery, and a healthy new baby.

[Galo]

Chet.....I dont know you either but all I can say is I wish I did.

Congrats for this huge step forward (pun absolutely intended) and Godspeed on your recovery

[robrm250]

I have read a story on Roadrash girl and a 20yr old young woman made a bad decision to ride with a punk,but that doesn't mean it was her fault or that anyone deseved 1/100th of what she got.If you cannot feel sorry for Roadrash girl it is because you are an asshole,and you were probably just as big an asshole as before your accident.I do not know of any human being and especially another rider or father with kids that cannot feel sorry for her,that being said I also feel sorry for your accident and your sick heart.

[homebrew]

I have read a story on Roadrash girl and a 20yr old young woman made a bad decision to ride with a punk,but that doesn't mean it was her fault or that anyone deseved 1/100th of what she got.If you cannot feel sorry for Roadrash girl it is because you are an asshole,and you were probably just as big an asshole as before your accident.I do not know of any human being and especially another rider or father with kids that cannot feel sorry for her,that being said I also feel sorry for your accident and your sick heart.

Agreed !

It's difficult to feel sory for someone else's misfortune when you're so busy feeling sorry for your self.
This thread wins the pitty award.

[MDHCO]

A young man with a family to support has a terrible life changing accident.   It isn't very hard to imagine and understand the anger he had to deal with.  

Then again perhaps that's a bit of a stretch for homebrew and robrm250.

Best wishes for you and your family Chet.    

[peterwelch]

Guys,
Really sobering stuff. Wish you well and hope you are soon back to your life and family.

[Chet Ubetcha]

Agreed !

It's difficult to feel sory for someone else's misfortune when you're so busy feeling sorry for your self.
This thread wins the pitty award.

Interesting.  Perhaps you didn't read the actual post, just the subject heading.  The reason I don't particularly feel too bad for Road Rash Girl, is the fact that she seemingly hasn't learned from her accident.  Instead, she uses it to gain attention for herself.  Sure, she wears an oversized leather jacket, but that's about the only semi-relevant piece of gear she's got on aside from her helmet.  Through her own words, she still hasn't slowed down any.  Her pictures depict her as still more interested in vanity than safety.  THAT is why I don't really have too much sympathy for her.  Sure, I hate that it had to happen in the first place, and you are absolutely right that as a father I can't imagine what I'd be going through if it happened to my daughter (perhaps I can ask my mom who was down here with me for a month after my accident.  I'm sure she's got some insight).  However, if you don't learn from your mistakes then you are the only person to blame for it when they happen again.  

I have a question for both of you:  Have you ever experienced something this life changing?  I'd suspect not since you react the way you do.  I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I smile all day every day, all physical pain aside.  I don't.  I have my days and my moments.  You would, too.  How do you tell a 28 year old physically active guy that he'll be lucky to even walk normally again, nevermind run, lift weights, or continue his military career?  You are God Damned right it's pretty hard to deal with sometimes.  

However, it's far from self pity.  I know several people here personally off the board.  We have ridden together and we still stay in contact in our "real lives".  A few of them I still see on a regular basis.  Go ahead and ask any one of them exactly how much self pity I have.  Yeah, it sucks that this happened.  However, I thank God EVERY FUCKING DAY that I'm still here for my wife and my daughter.  I thank God EVERY FUCKING DAY that I'm not some vegetable that my wife is stuck spoon feeding right alongside our soon-to-be newborn.  From moment one after the accident I felt guilt, admittedly.  Guilt that I placed my family in this situation because of my voluntary participation in an inherantly dangerous hobby.  

As I said, I have my moments.  When I see someone streaking by on one wheel wearing shorts and a wifebeater with their helmet strapped to the back, I briefly wonder why.  So would you.  Anyone that says any different has never been in this situation.  However, as a currently certified MSF Instructor, I still use my situation to try and educate others.  I don't tell people what did happen to me, I tell people about what WOULD have happened to me had I not been wearing the gear I was.  I don't try and dissuade others from riding.  I instead try and educate them on how they can try and minimize their risk as much as possible when they do ride.  I know of at least two people who have stopped riding due to my accident and what it did to THEIR head.  I had no active part in that.    However, read back through this thread and see how many people say that they subconsciously think about what happened to me every time they ride, and it makes them put on the jacket or slow down just a little bit.  THAT is the reaction I want others to have from all of that.

Yeah, it sucks.  I wish the pain would go away.  However, I believe that everything happens for a reason, and because of some of the things that have happened since the accident, I would do it all over again if I had to.  There's no self-pity here.  Try again.

[forester]

Yeah, well forget all that crap.  When you getting the ninja 250?  

[roadrailer]

Chet  

[sagerat]

Chet,
You could always start with a Vespa and work your way up the two-wheel foodchain.

In any event, enjoy the Sugar Bowl.  Didn't Tom Dempsey, he of the half-foot, kick the longest field goal in NFL history in the Sugar Bowl when he played for the Saints?  

[SprintSTboy]

Chet  

I second that!  Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings.

[Tony T]

Chet,
You could always start with a Vespa and work your way up the two-wheel foodchain.

I was hoping that Chet would get an Ural. But he stated that his riding days are over & wouldn’t want to put his family though the worry anymore.

To me, that’s pretty dam impressive & very unselfish of Mr. Ubetcha  

[sagerat]

Urals are fun rigs as are sidecars in general.  There's a guy here in Bend who has a sidecar on a Goldwing.  But what makes you go "Ahhhhh! That bike has no rider" is that he pilots the outfit from the hack.  

He has it the hack modified so he rides his wheelchair up some sort of ramp and then all the handcontrols are moved over to the hack.  I've seen several times but never in a place where I could get turned around and double back in time to say "hi."

[Desmo Demon]

This "walking" thing is harder than it looks!!!    I'm only a few days into this...haven't even gotten to the hard part yet...and I feel like I've gone five rounds in a UFC title fight.  I'm beat to hell!

Try not to let the pain, the zapping of your energy, and any frustrations get you down.....you'll be walking before you know it. I know it's not always fun-and-games and fun-and-smiles, so keep up the good work...  

I would never trivialize your experience with my right leg that was broken in three places, as my wife has taught me that it wasn't "anything" by comparison to injuries such as yours. My wife, like you, had a life changing motorcycle accident 3-1/2 years ago (she just had ANOTHER surgury before Thanksgiving). Sometimes, we wonder if she would have been better off to loose her foot/leg, as all the rehab and pain that she goes through on a daily basis sometimes doesn't seem to make having a "dead-weight" on the end of her leg (her left foot is paralyzed - no movement nor control, just pain). I won't get into her experience, but you can read some about it here...

http://members.aol.com/TBoling125/gsxr_page.html


On the other side of things, where motorcycling is concerned, getting back into riding will not be too difficult for you, if you really decide to get back on a bike. If you do opt to start riding, again, there are many good products out there that can help your transition back into it. There are flow-proportional front brake master cylinders, thumb brakes, and many bikes with ABS that can make getting back on a bike easier for you, to name a few. Since my wife can't change gears, we've been fortunate to find an electric shifter manufactured by Pingel.



I wish you luck in your rehab and your adjustments to this new way of life.



PS - Were you stationed at Shaw AFB in Sumter, SC?

[nick01]

Chet  

+2

[CBRXXBLACKBIRD]

I feel sorry for anybody that crashes whether it was their fault or fault of another.