Official 2010 Honda VFR1200F Launch

[Rogue]

C'mon, you know none of that matters as long as there's no urine cups and it looks refined  

james

Well you know the cheap urine cups don't matter a damn as long as it's a fancy Ducati.  Then all is forgiven.  

If you want heated grips, electric windshield, heated seats, GPS, etc., then get a BMW 330i.  Honestly!  It's a motorcycle!  Wear a heated jacket liner if you're cold.  Do you REALLY need a GPS?  And if you can't stand the windblast, then maybe riding is not for you.  In any case, Honda makes the Goldwing for those who must have the comforts of their car.  

[Sport-Touring]

[kevin_stevens]

Well you know the cheap urine cups don't matter a damn as long as it's a fancy Ducati.  Then all is forgiven.  

If you want heated grips, electric windshield, heated seats, GPS, etc., then get a BMW 330i.  Honestly!  It's a motorcycle!  Wear a heated jacket liner if you're cold.  Do you REALLY need a GPS?  And if you can't stand the windblast, then maybe riding is not for you.  In any case, Honda makes the Goldwing for those who must have the comforts of their car.  

Watch the glass houses...

http://www.buell.com/en_us/gear/accessories/product.asp?Menu_ID=2&ProductLineID=2&CategoryID=4&ProductID=4256

KeS

[XLR8]

Watch the glass houses...

http://www.buell.com/en_us/gear/accessories/product.asp?Menu_ID=2&ProductLineID=2&CategoryID=4&ProductID=4256

KeS

About the only thing worth owning on a Buell.

[atypical1]

If you want heated grips, electric windshield, heated seats, GPS, etc., then get a BMW 330i.  Honestly!  It's a motorcycle!  Wear a heated jacket liner if you're cold.  Do you REALLY need a GPS?  And if you can't stand the windblast, then maybe riding is not for you.  In any case, Honda makes the Goldwing for those who must have the comforts of their car.  

That's all well and good but how many overnight trips do you take? How many different roads do you take? Do you ride in the rain or snow? Regarding windblast, last time I checked you own two bikes with windshields don't you? The Duc has an adjustable windscreen but it's not electronic. It doesn't have heated seats but it does have heated grips and if you ride someplace cold you'll see it's a nice feature to have.

Frankly if Honda is trying to compete against BMW and the new Connie then it needs to have the niceties that those bikes have.

james

[XLR8]

That's all well and good but how many overnight trips do you take? How many different roads do you take? Do you ride in the rain or snow? Regarding windblast, last time I checked you own two bikes with windshields don't you? The Duc has an adjustable windscreen but it's not electronic. It doesn't have heated seats but it does have heated grips and if you ride someplace cold you'll see it's a nice feature to have.

Frankly if Honda is trying to compete against BMW and the new Connie then it needs to have the niceties that those bikes have.

james

I agree. Which is why it won't sell if they price it according to speculation we've heard here and on VFRD.

[Rogue]

That's all well and good but how many overnight trips do you take? How many different roads do you take? Do you ride in the rain or snow? Regarding windblast, last time I checked you own two bikes with windshields don't you? The Duc has an adjustable windscreen but it's not electronic. It doesn't have heated seats but it does have heated grips and if you ride someplace cold you'll see it's a nice feature to have.

Frankly if Honda is trying to compete against BMW and the new Connie then it needs to have the niceties that those bikes have.

james

I dont take enough overnight trips.  I wish I did.  But I have gone on them from time to time on a variety of bikes including my Buell.  Ridden in the rain plenty of times before.  Ridden in very cold weather down to about 20 degrees but not in snow....that's nuts!  If I had to travel in snow I will take a car.  

I certainly will not say the new VFR is better than the new Ducati ST.  I do think that all those niceties mentioned are unecessary.

To deal with cold, I prefer the heated jacket liner with collar and sleeves.  No need for heated grips with that.  Adjustable windshield......it adds weight and mechanical complexity.  They should just have replaceable windshields based on rider height.  But yeah I do like having a windshield yet I don't see the need to have an electrically adjustable one.  GPS?  Maybe if I were a motorcycle messenger and I must find addresses I am not familiar with.  Otherwise the standard maps work fine.  I just think that all of those gadgets are just gadgets and takes away from just riding the bike the way it was meant to be rather than trying to emulate a car.  

[XLR8]

I'd rather buy my own stuff and add it if I want it. Example, I don't actually want heated grips but I'd like heated gloves instead. I'd also like to choose my own GPS rather than a manufacturer choosing it for me. So it's not a big deal to me if Honda doesn't include this stuff as long as the bike isn't priced as if it does.

[Schneegz]

I'd rather buy my own stuff and add it if I want it. Example, I don't actually want heated grips but I'd like heated gloves instead. I'd also like to choose my own GPS rather than a manufacturer choosing it for me. So it's not a big deal to me if Honda doesn't include this stuff as long as the bike isn't priced as if it does.

I'm the same way.  I'd much rather have a pretty basic bike with lots of aftermarket support than one that comes with all the bells and whistles from the manufacturer.  I may not want all the bells and whistles.  Or I may want different bells and whistles.  The exceptions to that rules would be things like ABS, traction control and such that con only come form the OEM.  I think.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

That being said, the VFR definitely doesn't fit my definition of a "basic bike".  I love the technology, though, and it'll be interesting to see how it spreads to other bikes in Honda's lineup.

[Busy Little Whiner]

I don't even know whut all that stuff is  

Orson hear an beep on his phone the other day and asked wuz that??? an answering machine or something???

[chornbe]

Now we're arguing over things the bike that no one here will ever buy new should and should not have. Man, this is a fantastic group.  

[Orson]

Orson hear an beep on his phone the other day and asked wuz that??? an answering machine or something???

I rode to the Arctic Circle without doodads  



Guzzis aren't for nancy-boy girl's blouses  

[XLR8]

Now we're arguing over things the bike that no one here will ever buy new should and should not have. Man, this is a fantastic group.  

Maybe you should do a podcast on it. Farkles. I'm serious!  
Posted on: November 17, 2009, 06:20:52 am

I rode to the Arctic Circle without doodads  

Yeah but how would you miss that? It's a giant circle!

[Orson]

Yeah but how would you miss that? It's a giant circle!

as atadaskew mentioned...see the clear plastic pocket on the tank bag?

that's my GPS  

[XLR8]

as atadaskew mentioned...see the clear plastic pocket on the tank bag?

that's my GPS  

I thought it was a BB holder.

[swimmer]

Maybe you should do a podcast on it. Farkles. I'm serious!  
Posted on: November 17, 2009, 06:20:52 am

Yeah but how would you miss that? It's a giant circle!

Isn't the arctic circle on the Euro side of the Atlantic sort of the wimp's arctic circle?

[Orson]

Isn't the arctic circle on the Euro side of the Atlantic sort of the wimp's arctic circle?

so they had a gift shop/snack bar at the Arctic Circle...

sue me  

[chornbe]

Maybe you should do a podcast on it. Farkles. I'm serious!  

"Farkles of choice" is an upcoming topic.  

[scottzilla]

I love listening to SoCal folks argue about creature comforts.  Like riding in warm sunshine all year long is so goddamned demanding.  

[Baz]

It can drop to 65 degrees in the mountains you know!  

[chornbe]

Hey, that's a cool Hayabusa. I didn't know they came in that color.