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« Reply #160 on: August 29, 2013, 09:28:52 am »

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« Reply #161 on: August 29, 2013, 09:45:57 am »



Short read but...... looks to me like the Triumph Street Triple remains the best of the best. Bigok

It may sound like a Triumph but doesn't handle or fuel as well.... so that's the story for now.

Yamaha seem to hve trouble dialing in the fuelling, my former '06 FJR and now my Super T have issues. On my Triumph Scrambler and my former Tiger 800XC fuelling was dead on.. perfect.

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« Reply #162 on: August 29, 2013, 10:25:27 am »




Short read but...... looks to me like the Triumph Street Triple remains the best of the best. Bigok

It may sound like a Triumph but doesn't handle or fuel as well.... so that's the story for now.

Yamaha seem to hve trouble dialing in the fuelling, my former '06 FJR and now my Super T have issues. On my Triumph Scrambler and my former Tiger 800XC fuelling was dead on.. perfect.

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$3000 price differential buys a lot of Power Commanders and Ohlins bits...
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« Reply #163 on: August 29, 2013, 11:17:34 am »




$3000 price differential buys a lot of Power Commanders and Ohlins bits...


True dat...... but I was hoping Yamaha would get it right at the factory. I rather spend my time riding(not wrenching and tuning), and have full factort/dealer support. As always, YMMV.  Bigok

There's more to a good running motor then a PC brings to the table. Same with handling and Ohlins, frame geomerty and stiffnes play a major roll here.

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« Reply #164 on: August 29, 2013, 11:22:52 am »




True dat...... but I was hoping Yamaha would get it right at the factory. I rather spend my time riding(not wrenching and tuning), and have full factort/dealer support. As always, YMMV.  Bigok

There's more to a good running motor then a PC brings to the table. Same with handling and Ohlins, frame geomerty and stiffnes play a major roll here.

Regards. Paul



Well, it is a price-point bike.  Yamaha has apparently done a great job of giving a lot of quality for the buck, but some things cost a lot extra, and for most buyers aren't worth the dough.

I've never owned any motorcycle where I thought the suspension couldn't use some help.  For most price-conscious riders, I'm sure the Yamaha's suspension will be good enough, though.  For me, I'd expect to drop coin on it right away- as I would for the Street Triple, for that matter.

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« Reply #165 on: August 29, 2013, 11:55:26 am »





Well, it is a price-point bike.  Yamaha has apparently done a great job of giving a lot of quality for the buck, but some things cost a lot extra, and for most buyers aren't worth the dough.

I've never owned any motorcycle where I thought the suspension couldn't use some help.  For most price-conscious riders, I'm sure the Yamaha's suspension will be good enough, though.  For me, I'd expect to drop coin on it right away- as I would for the Street Triple, for that matter.


Have you owned a Steeet Triple R? NO, either do I...... but I've logged miles on a few demo bikes.  My thoughts are you'd have to spend big $$$ to make even small improvements to the ride and handling of that bike. Most riders I know, even a few track junkies, are happy with the stock suspenion. Sounds to me like you're the kind of guy that's has to mod ever bike he owns just to make it his own, nothing wrong with that.

As far as build quality from Yamaha, my experience says it's it will be top notch.

Regards, Paul

Built to a price point, well sure, every product is built to a price point. Ya gets what ya pay for, most of the time.

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« Reply #166 on: August 29, 2013, 01:37:54 pm »

It's kind of a silly argument you're making.  The R version comes with upper-shelf suspension right off the bat- hence the $3k price differential vs the standard Streety, or about $6k more than the Yamaha.  


And yes, probably even with the Streety R I would spend some money on the suspension.  I might not need new shocks and forks, but I would have them tuned for me.


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« Reply #167 on: August 29, 2013, 06:21:58 pm »


It's kind of a silly argument you're making.  The R version comes with upper-shelf suspension right off the bat- hence the $3k price differential vs the standard Streety, or about $6k more than the Yamaha. 


And yes, probably even with the Streety R I would spend some money on the suspension.  I might not need new shocks and forks, but I would have them tuned for me.





I've been tempted by the Striple R too, but for $6K more than the FZ9  Nuts    How much would it cost to completely upgrade the suspension on the Fizzer?  $2,500 or so?  Leaves $3,500 for tires and gas.  Wink
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« Reply #168 on: August 29, 2013, 07:30:59 pm »

OK, a quick check shows I'm completely effed up on my numbers.  The SPEED triple R is $16k,  or $7k more than the yamaha.  That's the one with the Ohlins suspension and sweet wheels (plus about 20 HP more than the FZ09)

The STREET triple R is only a grand more than the Yamaha, but it has KYB suspension and 8 less HP than the Yamaha.
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« Reply #169 on: August 29, 2013, 07:49:07 pm »

Here's the prices I get from the internet:

Yamaha FZ-09  $7,990
(source Yamaha website)

Triumph Street Triple  $9,399

Triumph Street Triple R $9,999
(source MotorcycleUSA buyers guide



The Speed Triple is quite a bit more but I don't think of it as a competitor for the FZ-09.
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« Reply #170 on: August 29, 2013, 08:05:13 pm »

Got a chance to sit on an FZ09 recently. Holy sweet hell....  EEK!  Inlove Inlove Inlove

It feels like a real, big-boy bike in all the right ways, and it feels like a little feather weight toy in all the right ways.

Methinks Yamaha has an unqualified success on their hands.  Thumbsup Thumbsup Thumbsup

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« Reply #171 on: August 29, 2013, 08:10:13 pm »

Sat on one at Indy... it was perfect. Don't want to have a chance to ride it, there's no room for another bike.
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« Reply #172 on: August 29, 2013, 08:13:50 pm »


Here's the prices I get from the internet:

Yamaha FZ-09  $7,990
(source Yamaha website)

Triumph Street Triple  $9,399

Triumph Street Triple R $9,999
(source MotorcycleUSA buyers guide



The Speed Triple is quite a bit more but I don't think of it as a competitor for the FZ-09.




The FZ09 sits squarely in between the Speed and the Street Triples, by all appearances.  It's the Goldilocks choice.
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« Reply #173 on: August 29, 2013, 09:27:37 pm »

FZ-09 has the makings of the next SV650.  Yamaha will sell them by the boatload.  Aftermarket will be all over it.  Relatively new riders will love the low price and the light weight.  Experienced riders will like it for the tractable power and... light weight.

I like my Speed3R and think the comparison is kinda silly.  The SV650 and SV1000 (got one too) never threatened Ducati, not even the Monsters.  The Street 3 might be affected some, but I think they ultimately serve different clientele.

A versatile lightweight and inexpensive bike is great for the industry, as it brings in more riders to the sport.  If it gets more folks to appreciated 3 cylinders,  it is good for Triumph as well.
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« Reply #174 on: August 29, 2013, 09:57:05 pm »


FZ-09 has the makings of the next SV650.  Yamaha will sell them by the boatload.  Aftermarket will be all over it.  Relatively new riders will love the low price and the light weight.  Experienced riders will like it for the tractable power and... light weight.

I like my Speed3R and think the comparison is kinda silly.  The SV650 and SV1000 (got one too) never threatened Ducati, not even the Monsters.  The Street 3 might be affected some, but I think they ultimately serve different clientele.

A versatile lightweight and inexpensive bike is great for the industry, as it brings in more riders to the sport.  If it gets more folks to appreciated 3 cylinders,  it is good for Triumph as well.


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I haven't seen any hp numbers, are they available?

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« Reply #175 on: August 30, 2013, 12:51:37 am »



I haven't seen any hp numbers, are they available?



They're calling 65 foot pounds of torque and 113 HP.
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« Reply #176 on: August 30, 2013, 08:45:24 am »

They're calling 65 foot pounds of torque and 113 HP.
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« Reply #177 on: September 02, 2013, 06:45:36 pm »

Awesome!  Now if I only had more time to ride, it would get on the list next to the Streety  Thumbsup
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« Reply #178 on: September 02, 2013, 10:59:40 pm »

Take a look at the frame on that FZ09...HOW do you get to the motor to adjust the valves!!??
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« Reply #179 on: September 02, 2013, 11:40:03 pm »

First ride.  Some I expected, some I certainly did not, but it's only MCN, so we'll have till a real journalist rides one

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