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Title: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: motordog1 on December 22, 2007, 12:22:28 am
Helibar risers, buell pegs, GI Pro, Yosh Slipons, Rick Mayer Seat, ZG ST Shield, powerlet outlet, Ram stem mount Gps mount, Sw Motech plx mounts with givi V35 cases, chaser Harper Tail Bag.  This setup gives me all day comfort with 150 to 200 lbs less weight and 50 more  hp than the luxury sport touring bikes like the ST, FJR, Rt.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/motordog1/1028seatfour.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/motordog1/1028seatone.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/motordog1/giviwithyoshslipon.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/motordog1/givione.jpg)





Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: mtradtke on December 23, 2007, 12:03:41 am
Very nice setup!! I really like the balance out back with the dual exhausts. The Concourse exhaust frightens me!

Michael


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: PhilBiker on December 23, 2007, 12:51:15 pm
Looks nice!


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: spinalator on December 23, 2007, 01:20:43 pm
Great setup, and very sharp bike. It looks like Santa came early, or you have been hiding receipts from the spouse!


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: R Doug on December 23, 2007, 01:27:06 pm
I used to have the V35s on another bike.  They're great bags.  


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Spence on December 23, 2007, 08:01:32 pm

Helibar risers, buell pegs, GI Pro, Yosh Slipons, Rick Mayer Seat, ZG ST Shield, powerlet outlet, Ram stem mount Gps mount, Sw Motech plx mounts with givi V35 cases, chaser Harper Tail Bag.  This setup gives me all day comfort with 150 to 200 lbs less weight and 50 more  hp than the luxury sport touring bikes like the ST, FJR, Rt.


            motordog, How do you like the Rick Mayer seat? Is it any higher or lower then stock? I bought blue 07 a few weeks back just in time to put it in the garage before the snow hit. I'm hoping to do some sport touring on mine also but want to ride it some before I start changing bars and seat etc. I can't quite flat foot both feet so I don't want to make it any higher, an inch lower would be great. Thanks


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: BlueRidgeKat on January 02, 2008, 11:18:49 am
Thats the best looking 14 I have seen yet. I have never been crazy about the look of the 14's front but it appears that the ZG touring screen you are using really helps the look of it alot IMO.

Maybe I will have to put the 14 back on the "someday" list after all.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DiabloZX14 on January 03, 2008, 02:06:23 am
Mines a little less touring...ZG-DB, Heli's, C-14 seat, Tandem Grip and Centerstand

(http://www.zzrbikes.com/albums/album708/C14_Seat_008a.jpg)
(http://www.zzrbikes.com/albums/album708/C14_Seat_001a.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: keendog42 on January 12, 2008, 09:20:39 pm
Looks good - I'm still getting mine together. I'm going to go with the Corbin bags instead of the Givi's but man they're expensive. Here's a picture of it so far.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_2965.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: sportridertex on January 29, 2008, 06:50:01 pm
what does the ZX=14 look like with the brackets on the bike, but no bags?  the Givi V35 bags.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DosEquis00 on January 29, 2008, 09:11:04 pm
Nice looking set-up  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: 1KPerDay on January 30, 2008, 01:33:15 pm

what does the ZX=14 look like with the brackets on the bike, but no bags?  the Givi V35 bags.
Why would you leave the SW brackets on when they're so super-cool and easy to remove? :thumbsup:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: UFO on February 01, 2008, 09:14:06 pm
Very nice.  And I love that color.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: dalan on February 03, 2008, 08:31:54 am
Motordog,

I noticed you've got Yosh pipes on there with a centerstand.  Did the Yoshi's midpipe come with the little centerstand bumper bracket, or did you have to have it cut off your stock pipes and rewelded to the Yosh?

I wouldn't mind getting aftermarket cans for mine but I don't want to have to deal with cutting and welding.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: andruboz on February 05, 2008, 08:22:32 pm
not to derail a good thread :) but as good as the zx14 looks in blue and black, I saw the 08 in silver yesterday.

oh my. :inlove:

that color makes it look like the sophisticated gentleman's 186mph transportation.  less blue in it than the silver on the concours14. makes the bike look smaller-which is a good thing- at least to me..

me likey.

gotta save my pennies and maybe sell my old connie..



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: kevin_stevens on February 06, 2008, 01:48:23 am

not to derail a good thread :) but as good as the zx14 looks in blue and black, I saw the 08 in silver yesterday.

oh my. :inlove:

that color makes it look like the sophisticated gentleman's 186mph transportation.  less blue in it than the silver on the concours14. makes the bike look smaller-which is a good thing- at least to me..

me likey.

gotta save my pennies and maybe sell my old connie..




Did you see the midnight blue metallic?

KeS


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: FJRmgm on February 06, 2008, 09:00:29 am
nice looking bike.  

Get those hard bags color-matched to the rest of the bike and it will look super cool.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: fjralex on February 06, 2008, 11:42:55 am
Wow, looking sharp.  The Russel saddle looks great on your 14!


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Yankee Dog on February 06, 2008, 05:06:18 pm

Looks good - I'm still getting mine together. I'm going to go with the Corbin bags instead of the Givi's but man they're expensive. Here's a picture of it so far.
...............................


I have seen one with the Corbin bags.  They look very nice, but be advised the Corbins have a funky shape inside.  You lose a lot of cargo space.  

Yankee Dog





Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DJStevieB on February 07, 2008, 01:30:21 am
I bought the 2008 ZX-14 in Atomic Silver. :inlove:

Farkles so far include: fender eliminator, heli-bars, Sporttech silver-chrome windshield and the Kawasaki touring windshield, Whistler radar detector, headlight modulator, brakelight modulator and race raillz.

I have a fully farkled up FJR for my touring duties including GPS, satellite radio, ipod, radar detector, GIVI top case, modulators, blah, blah, blah. :D

I like your cases on your ZX14. I'm not sure about the windshield. Nice pic.

As soon as the weather clears, I'm heading to Rich's for a modified seat like my FJR.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Hulked Up on February 12, 2008, 10:19:41 pm
Would those Givi bags hold a full face helmet?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: kevin_stevens on February 12, 2008, 10:28:05 pm

I bought the 2008 ZX-14 in Atomic Silver. :inlove:

Farkles so far include: fender eliminator, heli-bars, Sporttech silver-chrome windshield and the Kawasaki touring windshield, Whistler radar detector, headlight modulator, brakelight modulator and race raillz.

I have a fully farkled up FJR for my touring duties including GPS, satellite radio, ipod, radar detector, GIVI top case, modulators, blah, blah, blah. :D

I like your cases on your ZX14. I'm not sure about the windshield. Nice pic.

As soon as the weather clears, I'm heading to Rich's for a modified seat like my FJR.


What brake modulator did you get?  How'd it fit?

KeS


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: drsmig on February 13, 2008, 08:32:52 pm

Would those Givi bags hold a full face helmet?


Yes they do.  I have a set on my zx14 as well.  I can highly recommend them.  Much cheaper than the corbin as well.  You can also color match them.  Mine are color matched to my atomic silver 07 which was only available in Canada.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: keendog42 on February 16, 2008, 10:16:01 pm
Here's a couple pictures with the Corbins.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_2984.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_2991.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_2990.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Squareman357 on February 17, 2008, 08:24:36 am

Here's a couple pictures with the Corbins.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_2990.jpg)


I've got that exhaust (in Carbon Fiber) on my ZX-14.  Did you have to turn it like that to make it fit with the Corbin bags, or did you do that because you like that aesthetic better?  Any pics of the insides of the bags?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: keendog42 on February 17, 2008, 10:39:41 am
The pipes looked out of place due to the wide cutout to accommodate the stock cans so turning them sideways made them fit very well.

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_2994.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_2995.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_3001.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_2997.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DJStevieB on February 20, 2008, 12:53:14 am



What brake modulator did you get?  How'd it fit?

KeS



They should be coming in any day now. I had the dealer order the 'Back-off" brand... both headlight & brakelight. I have the Kisan headlight modulator & 4 of those little 3-LED brakelight flashers on my FJR.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Tyrroneous on February 21, 2008, 01:05:37 pm

Looks good - I'm still getting mine together. I'm going to go with the Corbin bags instead of the Givi's but man they're expensive. Here's a picture of it so far.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_2965.jpg)



Looks good.  I really like that black wire mesh screen behind the fairing cut-out.     :thumbsup:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: MadMax96 on February 21, 2008, 02:09:57 pm
I had no idea that Corbin made such sweet looking cases for the ZX-14.  They really fit the bike well and aren't as oddly shaped as the older style beetle bags.  But OMG they're $$$$$!!!   :crazy:



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HWYB8 on March 24, 2008, 08:08:29 pm
Here's my ZX-14 in Sport Touring Mode.  I added the optional rear grab bar and went with the Givi PLX rack and V35 bags.  I then custom made a bracket to mount a Givi E360 for a top case.  It mounts over the rear seat rather then behind it.  I'll probably be adding the risers and a different screen, just haven't decided which one yet.

(http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/617693/fullsize/img_0262.jpg)

(http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/617694/fullsize/img_0263.jpg)

(http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/617695/fullsize/img_0264.jpg)

James


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: CBRXXBLACKBIRD on March 26, 2008, 08:56:56 am
Slick looking bikes  :D


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Shaggy-R6 on March 26, 2008, 09:02:34 am
Seeing these 14's all done up for touring (the availability of hard bags)... I think this will be my next bike.  Once a used blue or black one goes up for sale in my area I will pull the trigger.  So far all I've found are red ones... and we all know red is the slower colour (probably why they are for sale  :lol:).
I was wrestling with the idea of a new connie 14, but I don't like the weight or the laid back riding position.  I prefer a sightly aggressive forward lean (like on my R6).


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Squareman357 on March 26, 2008, 10:11:12 am

(http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/617693/fullsize/img_0262.jpg)

(http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/617694/fullsize/img_0263.jpg)

(http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/617695/fullsize/img_0264.jpg)


I had already decided that I was going to get the GIVI quick release racks and the PLX V35 bags based on the first pics in this thread, but these pictures really sold it to me.  Those bags look SO good on the ZX-14.  For you guys that have them, any chances of a shot of the bags opened, but packed with some stuff, just to see what I'm working with space wise?  I love forums...you can always get info and ideas for just about anything you're planning...


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: bete on March 29, 2008, 11:40:46 am
Man I hate you guy's, just when I thought I was satisfied with my current stable you all had to farkel up the Z14, They all look awesome. bete..   PS; Super Man cool!


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: todao on April 02, 2008, 12:41:09 am
Keendog
What screen do you have on?  That does not look like the ZG touring screen.  It's a nice looking screen.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HWYB8 on April 03, 2008, 02:10:10 pm
Hey guys, if you like my bike, I could use some help.  If you are on the ZX14Ninja.com forum I could use some votes for Bike Of The Month.  It's hard to compete with a stock bike, but I figured why not.  There are no prizes for the winner other then bragging rights.

http://www.zx14ninja.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=9842

Thanks,
James


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: XLR8 on June 30, 2008, 09:22:43 am
I was thinking that this could be my next touring rig but I wish they would bring the ABS model to the US. I don't wish to start a flame war with that comment, I just think they should offer it like they do in Europe. Hell maybe they do now I haven't checked in a while.

Either way, gorgeous bikes guys.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: keendog42 on July 01, 2008, 12:36:45 pm

Keendog
What screen do you have on?  That does not look like the ZG touring screen.  It's a nice looking screen.

That is the ZG Touring screen. I run the ZG during the cold months and run a Puig DB when the weather breaks in the Spring.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Squareman357 on July 09, 2008, 11:10:02 pm
Took me long enough, but I finally "got 'er done".  She's a little dirty after pulling commuter duty this week and getting caught in the rain, and she'll likely remain that way another week as I'm in Willmington on business from Friday to next Wednesday, but from the brief test ride, she still feels A-OK  :bigok:...

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/Squareman357/ZX-14/ZX-14064.jpg)

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/Squareman357/ZX-14/ZX-14066.jpg)

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/Squareman357/ZX-14/ZX-14067.jpg)

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/Squareman357/ZX-14/ZX-14068.jpg)

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/Squareman357/ZX-14/ZX-14070.jpg)

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa177/Squareman357/ZX-14/ZX-14069.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: 1KPerDay on July 10, 2008, 12:32:07 pm
VERY nice.  :thumbsup: :cool:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Nimh on July 10, 2008, 02:36:08 pm
Yeah, that'll do for sure.  Great looking.   :thumbsup:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: 1KPerDay on July 10, 2008, 03:09:25 pm
BTW what's the deal with your license plate? Cops don't give you crap for that?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: pmax on July 10, 2008, 04:43:16 pm
I like it in black.  It tones down the ribbed side panel. :thumbsup:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Squareman357 on July 10, 2008, 04:57:04 pm

BTW what's the deal with your license plate? Cops don't give you crap for that?


Long story.  I got the cops called on me for splitting one day when I was still commuting on the Kennedy in Chicago, and report that I was doing tricks and riding aggressively.  Traffic was stuck at 0 and I was splitting at about 10 mph or so.  Trooper who got the call actually watched me for a bit then lit me up.  I pulled over, and he told me he'd gotten a call that someone was doing the fool on the e-way and had my plate.  After that, I bent the plate up whenever I needed to split traffic, and if I ever get pulled over, the worst I can get a ticket for is improper display of plate, which isn't a points ticket.  I can always deny it was me, and unless they SEE me, they can't write me for it.  I'm MUCH more aware of cops when splitting now, that was when I first started.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: 1KPerDay on July 10, 2008, 05:00:46 pm
you lane split with those cases? :crazy:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Squareman357 on July 10, 2008, 05:49:01 pm

you lane split with those cases? :crazy:


LOL no...I just forgot to put the plate back down.  I haven't split with the cases yet...


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: MadMax96 on July 11, 2008, 04:01:47 pm



Long story.  I got the cops called on me for splitting one day when I was still commuting on the Kennedy in Chicago, and report that I was doing tricks and riding aggressively.  Traffic was stuck at 0 and I was splitting at about 10 mph or so.  Trooper who got the call actually watched me for a bit then lit me up.  I pulled over, and he told me he'd gotten a call that someone was doing the fool on the e-way and had my plate.  After that, I bent the plate up whenever I needed to split traffic, and if I ever get pulled over, the worst I can get a ticket for is improper display of plate, which isn't a points ticket.  I can always deny it was me, and unless they SEE me, they can't write me for it.  I'm MUCH more aware of cops when splitting now, that was when I first started.


I'm pretty sure splitting in IL isn't legal.  So now you can get a ticket for splitting AND improper display of your tags.   :twofinger:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: 1KPerDay on July 11, 2008, 04:21:08 pm



I'm pretty sure splitting in IL isn't legal.  

Hence the folded-up plate.  ;)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Flying Kaw on July 15, 2008, 08:58:22 am



I'm pretty sure splitting in IL isn't legal.  So now you can get a ticket for splitting AND improper display of your tags.   :twofinger:


Yeah...and I'm pretty sure speeding is illegal everywhere.  But does has that ever slowed many down? ;)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Squareman357 on July 15, 2008, 11:18:25 am



Yeah...and I'm pretty sure speeding is illegal everywhere.  But does has that ever slowed many down? ;)


LOL not on these machines...


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: timsoonerdad on January 14, 2009, 01:49:31 pm
What is the general impression of the Heli Risers on the ZX-14?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: ctbandit on January 14, 2009, 02:48:23 pm
Very sweet touring bikes everyone! Take that FJR, C14, and ST13! In yo face! :gdog:

Seriously though, very nice rides.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Squareman357 on January 15, 2009, 01:54:59 pm

What is the general impression of the Heli Risers on the ZX-14?


Buddy has Helis on his ZX-14 and they do move you up and back a bit.  Not a far back as the C14 bars, but not as sporty as the stock position.  I think he even has enough room to go lock to lock without touching the stock windshield.  Helps with arm and back comfort if you need that.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DJStevieB on January 15, 2009, 09:49:22 pm
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii304/Motorsyko/Motorcycle/ZX14Tripodshots12-1-2008006.jpg)
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii304/Motorsyko/ZX14Pictires3-2-2008005.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Ant on January 18, 2009, 05:28:38 am
Must... stop... reading... this... thread  :bash:
I don't have 6 grand  :crazy:

I only need one kidney/lung/liver don't I? What is the black market rate these days?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: evilted on January 18, 2009, 09:06:43 am

Here's a couple pictures with the Corbins.


Keendog, got any close-ups of you bar setup?  Looks like a nice alternative to bar risers.  Any particular reason you didn't go with risers?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: ninjadad66 on January 21, 2009, 02:37:15 pm
 :bigok:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: keendog42 on February 07, 2009, 06:12:27 pm



Keendog, got any close-ups of you bar setup?  Looks like a nice alternative to bar risers.  Any particular reason you didn't go with risers?

I had the Heli risers on for a while and they worked great for shorter trips but as I started to do longer trips my neck would bother me so I went with the LSL kit which worked out great; then I mounted a set of Renthal bars and picked up another inch or so. I also had a problem on my trip to NC with the hot exhaust blistering the paint on the bottom of the Corbins with the TBR's so I had Kerry at Area P custom fab a set of mufflers which I welded to the stock mid pipes. Yes, they are long mufflers but they sound nice without being overbearing on long days and line up perfectly with the rear of the bags.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_3104.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_3178.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_3179-1.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: evilted on February 07, 2009, 11:24:45 pm
Thanks for the follow-up.  The bar setup looks comfortable.  I finally got to ride my buddy's Concours 14 last weekend, and it was kinda' nice being able to sit upright and I can certainly see the advantage on longer trips.  After 20 minutes on the Sprint he complained about his shoulders and wrists hurting and marveled that I rode it to California & back last fall. ;)

The new cans look nice, work well with the blacked-out theme you have going, and they also resolve the cognitive dissonance created by the oval tip-in-a-round-hole thing.   ;)



I had the Heli risers on for a while and they worked great for shorter trips but as I started to do longer trips my neck would bother me so I went with the LSL kit which worked out great; then I mounted a set of Renthal bars and picked up another inch or so. I also had a problem on my trip to NC with the hot exhaust blistering the paint on the bottom of the Corbins with the TBR's so I had Kerry at Area P custom fab a set of mufflers which I welded to the stock mid pipes. Yes, they are long mufflers but they sound nice without being overbearing on long days and line up perfectly with the rear of the bags.



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: bikerdude55 on February 08, 2009, 10:58:31 am
Beautiful Bikes! I always get tempted looking at zx14s on the showroom floor, just not sure if it would be a practical ride for me (I need the bags, bars etc) You all have just added another choice to my list of "next bike", now if Kawasaki could offer it with a shaft, ala K1200s we'd be talking...


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Ant on February 08, 2009, 11:32:30 am

Beautiful Bikes! I always get tempted looking at zx14s on the showroom floor, just not sure if it would be a practical ride for me (I need the bags, bars etc) You all have just added another choice to my list of "next bike", now if Kawasaki could offer it with a shaft, ala K1200s we'd be talking...


It is called the Concours 14 ;)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: bikerdude55 on February 10, 2009, 10:42:47 pm
You are so right, and I suspect if I decide to plunk down my hard earned cash with Team Green, it will be for the Concours, but that ZX-14 still stirs the stale brew of my aged testosterone tank...


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: JGreb on February 11, 2009, 09:23:03 am
very nice bike keendog :thumbsup:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DJStevieB on February 11, 2009, 02:59:42 pm
Here's what I use for my long distance doings: http://www.cycleventure.com/products/pack_system/index.htm

(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii304/Motorsyko/Rack003.jpg)
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii304/Motorsyko/Rack002.jpg)
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii304/Motorsyko/Rack001.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: motordog1 on March 28, 2009, 01:08:22 am
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/motordog1/swmotechattachments.jpg)

This is what is left when you take the SW Motech racks off. It takes just 30 seconds to take them on or off. You can also use these racks with a fender eliminator.

The Rick Mayer seat is just a little lower than the stock seat but is also a bit wider so you end up at about the same place.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Squareman357 on March 28, 2009, 10:29:45 am

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/motordog1/swmotechattachments.jpg)

This is what is left when you take the SW Motech racks off. It takes just 30 seconds to take them on or off. You can also use these racks with a fender eliminator.

The Rick Mayer seat is just a little lower than the stock seat but is also a bit wider so you end up at about the same place.


If you eliminate the fender, don't you lose that 4th mounting point across the back of the plate bracket?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: REAPER on May 25, 2009, 11:30:51 pm
Oh shit! Now I'm gona spend some money. Where you at, motordog1. I wanta see it in person.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Smoker on March 18, 2010, 08:12:24 pm
Ok all you zx14 touring nutbags, bumping this up for some insight. I'm considering getting one, test riding one tomorrow with the wife, and want to know how you guys are making out so far. What kind of mileage can you realistically do in a day, or say a 4 day trip, is it painful, if so, is it worth the pain, do you have trouble controlling your speed, etc., etc.

We'll be coming off a C-14, just kinda tired of the weight, don't need a full out touring bike anymore (did an 8K mile trip last year), and want something with better power to weight ratio. I love the black ones in this thread. Would set it up similar to what we have with the Connie (bags, heat, seat, screen, bar risers), I know it won't be as comfy as the Connie, but I can get it close, right?

Speaking of heat, can the alternator handle 2 sets of heat, heated grips, GPS, and radar at the same time? We like to ride in the cold. What have some of you done for wind management?

Any and all comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Big D on March 18, 2010, 11:57:27 pm
Here's my rendition....

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/dmarklar/ZX/Marsh.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/dmarklar/Yose09/19Fastcouch.jpg)

With Speigler bars, Buell pegs, and a custom Corbin seat, it's almost as upright as my '98 Bandit(which also has taller bars). It's a slightly more sporting position, but not really less comfortable. I Don't really enjoy doing anything over about 400 miles or so in a day, whatever the bike. Being 6-4 has something to do with that I'm sure. ;) 300ish is a perfect day ride for me.  I've done 450 in a day on the ZX(mostly twisties), and the last 50 miles(of slab) I was ready to get off the bike, but it wasn't too bad. That's the farthest I've ever gone in a day, on any bike.

It's an awesome machine, quite sporting, and hides it's weight well. Not quite as quick as my '99 Bandit, but still fun. ;) :lol:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Big D on March 19, 2010, 12:07:24 am
Forgot to say....  low to mid 30s on gas, depending on throttle abuse. If I'm not on it, I can get 150 mile before gas, with a little bit left. I did a 4 day 1000 mile Yosemite ride last summer, just a few months after buying it, and it was great.

My only complaint is engine heat. There are many fixes for this, and I will be pursuing some this spring.

Search around over here----> zx14ninjaforum (http://www.zx14ninjaforum.com/forums.cfm?conferenceid=3856F3B6-1372-66AE-3B11303B4076051F) for a ton of info.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: richak on March 19, 2010, 03:42:22 am
   I have 43,000 on my 07 with no problems. Mine has the Kawi centerstand and passenger grab handle, both invaluable for maintenance and touring. Pillions find it comfortable enough. I did a 11k trip in 07 averaging 550 a day with no nightime riding. I put on Heli bar risers and an Airhawk seat pad for that trip.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: todao on March 19, 2010, 03:48:01 am
 Ok all you zx14 touring nutbags, bumping this up for some insight. I'm considering getting one, test riding one tomorrow with the wife, and want to know how you guys are making out so far. What kind of mileage can you realistically do in a day, or say a 4 day trip, is it painful, if so, is it worth the pain, do you have trouble controlling your speed, etc., etc.  Speaking of heat, can the alternator handle 2 sets of heat, heated grips, GPS, and radar at the same time? We like to ride in the cold. What have some of you done for wind management?  Any and all comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.  


There's a very big difference in real world terms between the ZX and C14.  I've done 300-400 mile days easily.  Last summer did an 8 day 1800 mi trip but that included some dirt and many smaller back roads (and even a gravel road).  I easily go from 9- 3 or 4 without too much fatigue.  The bike is so smooth.  But I have a Corbin; for long days the stock seat doesn't cut it.  I have alarm, heated grips, powerlet and Zumo on my bike and used all three without any problem.  I have the ZG touring screen; it provides the best protection, Gen Mar risers (give a slightly higher rise) and use soft bags for touring.  Tank runs about 180 depending.  Certainly long enough that you want a stretch.
Beware; the power on the ZX is so much more thrilling than the C14.  Take my word for it, there's no comparison; you will truly sport tour.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Squareman357 on March 19, 2010, 07:18:00 am

Ok all you zx14 touring nutbags, bumping this up for some insight. I'm considering getting one, test riding one tomorrow with the wife, and want to know how you guys are making out so far. What kind of mileage can you realistically do in a day, or say a 4 day trip, is it painful, if so, is it worth the pain, do you have trouble controlling your speed, etc., etc.


I've done 1000 miles in one day, and I was a bit tired after that but it wasn't too bad.  On the slab I usually get about 200 to a tank before I'm looking, at about 85 mph.  If I'm wicking it up, or in some serious twisties, I'm filling between 160 and 170.  I've got a Corbin, Throttle Meister, and my Givi bags, and no other comfort mods.  I'm considering doing the Buell pegs to give my 37" inseam a bit more leg room, and perhaps a slightly higher double bubble wind screen, and my pipes when I get off my lazy butt, but that's about it.  I had 40K on my 2006 before I got hit, and I'm nearing 10K on my 2008 and she still makes me giggle in my helmet like a mad hatter when I grab a bit of the go handle...which is often...


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: volleykinginnc on March 24, 2010, 03:02:33 pm

Here's a couple pictures with the Corbins.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_2984.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_2991.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_2990.jpg)


Hooooly crap that is a good looking bike!  I love the beetle bags...definitely go with the bike and the bars look awesome too.  Just curious but can a full size helmet fit?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: fishhuntride on April 02, 2010, 12:57:58 pm
Several nice looking ZX14's setup for touring.  Now who wants to sell theirs to me?   :D


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: 9secondsflat on April 21, 2010, 06:56:02 am
not done yet...sargent seat, zg screen, coocase, genmar risers and peg extensions, crampbuster....givi e41 sides (silver tops) and sw quick release will be in and installed next week.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/iqzjow.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/18lu29.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: GS1100GK on April 23, 2010, 09:41:40 pm

Here's my rendition....

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/dmarklar/ZX/Marsh.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/dmarklar/Yose09/19Fastcouch.jpg)

With Speigler bars, Buell pegs, and a custom Corbin seat, it's almost as upright as my '98 Bandit(which also has taller bars). It's a slightly more sporting position, but not really less comfortable. I Don't really enjoy doing anything over about 400 miles or so in a day, whatever the bike. Being 6-4 has something to do with that I'm sure. ;) 300ish is a perfect day ride for me.  I've done 450 in a day on the ZX(mostly twisties), and the last 50 miles(of slab) I was ready to get off the bike, but it wasn't too bad. That's the farthest I've ever gone in a day, on any bike.

It's an awesome machine, quite sporting, and hides it's weight well. Not quite as quick as my '99 Bandit, but still fun. ;) :lol:


Big D, that is one purdy ZX in silver.  Nice job! :thumbsup:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Big D on April 24, 2010, 04:15:43 am
Thanks! :D


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: slidderhd on April 27, 2010, 04:15:25 am
Big D, I'm 6'3" 260.  I don't have bags yet, just pulling a small trailer.  Have you done any rear suspension mods?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Big D on April 27, 2010, 07:22:02 pm
No, suspension is all stock. I'm 6-4 and around 215, it's not maxed at all, and does fine with ~40lbs in the trunk and tail bag.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Smurfslayer on April 28, 2010, 12:05:08 pm
Oh what the heck... 

(http://www.bighammer.net/images/zx14_cockpit.jpg)

apologies, only have iphone pics of luggage, DB windscreen -
(http://www.bighammer.net/images/zxbagsls.jpg)

(http://www.bighammer.net/images/zxbagsrr.jpg)

(http://www.bighammer.net/images/zxbagsrs.jpg)

All the bags are mounted w/ SW Motech mounts from Twisted Throttle.  These cases were used, and about 1/2 the price of new bags, so the mounts are not the body hugging, "lower profile" side case mounts.  I'm thinking I may need outboard red / green flashing lights  :lol:





Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: motordog1 on May 13, 2010, 01:44:05 am
Haven't been to this site for awhile. New mods include the top case, LSL bars, and a modification to the Laminar Lip.



(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/motordog1/rightside-1-1.jpg)


(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/motordog1/allluggagefromfrontleft.jpg)


(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/motordog1/closeupLLipmounting.jpg)


(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/motordog1/rearone.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/motordog1/toptwo.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: KodiakRS on June 16, 2010, 05:55:30 pm
Does anyone know if the PLX only side case carriers (https://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2804) are compatible with the SW motech top box carrier (https://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2746)?  It looks like I will need the European tail cover, but the top box carrier will replace the grab rail.  There are no instructions on the sw motech site for the side carriers so I am wondering how they mount and if that will prevent the top box carrier from mounting there as well.  


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: 1KPerDay on June 16, 2010, 06:46:14 pm

Haven't been to this site for awhile. New mods include the top case, LSL bars, and a modification to the Laminar Lip.



(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/motordog1/rightside-1-1.jpg)
Man I love that color.  :inlove:

Did the spacers for the Laminar Lip help?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on June 21, 2010, 03:02:34 pm
What do you guys reckon your ST mode ZX-14's weigh compared to a stock C14? What other differences would there be?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Burners on June 22, 2010, 06:03:56 pm

Does anyone know if the PLX only side case carriers (https://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2804) are compatible with the SW motech top box carrier (https://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2746)?  It looks like I will need the European tail cover, but the top box carrier will replace the grab rail.  There are no instructions on the sw motech site for the side carriers so I am wondering how they mount and if that will prevent the top box carrier from mounting there as well.  


That's what Motordog has installed in the pictures, so my guess would be they are compatible... :headscratch:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: rajflyboy on June 23, 2010, 10:44:18 pm
centerstand is sweet!


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: sportridertex on July 05, 2010, 11:45:25 am
should of bought a Concours...

but then,  " what would they think?"



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: loadedmind on July 05, 2010, 12:48:49 pm
Quote
should of bought a concours


Some of us aren't old enough to want that thing.  Maybe when we turn 60 or so...   :lol:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: quarter pounder on July 19, 2010, 06:05:33 pm

should of bought a Concours...

but then,  " what would they think?"





A modded out 14 will run circles around the Connie 14.   Plus, it's not all pipe and slippers. :twofinger:   More hotrod tourer. :bigok:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: SVTNate on July 22, 2010, 02:50:31 am

What do you guys reckon your ST mode ZX-14's weigh compared to a stock C14? What other differences would there be?


My guess?  Full of fluids, with empty bags, around 580 pounds for a tour-ready Zed.  Roughly 60 pounds less than the FJR or K1300GT, 100 pounds less than the C-14.  The ST1300 is a big bitch, at 720 pounds, but it also packs nearly 8 gallons of fuel.

What other differences?  Even with Heli risers I'm going to guess that it's a more sporty riding position, no electronic windscreen, no traction control, no tire pressure sensor monitoring, no KiPASS system, no ABS brakes, etc.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Jules on July 24, 2010, 04:20:33 am
My mate's ZX14 set up for touring. Rear pegs lowered for his wife's comfort, pipes custom made to fit lowered pegs and Concours seat.

(http://tarsnakes.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Motorcycle-pics/Bills-ZX14-b/945458059_WtmFc-L.jpg)

On the road, touring solo


(http://tarsnakes.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Motorcycle-pics/Bills-ZX14-Mt-Hotham/945459650_MoU2m-L.jpg)



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: dmdbit on August 29, 2010, 08:02:20 pm
It looks like the zx14 can make a great touring bike. What is it like in parking lots and low speed situations? I am a one bike guy and ride daily to work, store, and errands etc. It seems kinda funny asking about slow speeds on one of the most powerful bikes but you can't go wide open all the time.

                                                                                  mike


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: richak on August 31, 2010, 01:25:57 am
They have great low speed handling. You can easily putz around in first at idle for tight maneouvering, then pull away smoothly.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: motorpycho on September 22, 2010, 11:45:45 pm
Its a kitten if you want it to be and easily ridden around parking lots.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: CrazyRider on October 18, 2010, 02:51:02 pm
SO is ZX1-4 a better tourer than Hayabusa?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Squareman357 on October 18, 2010, 04:34:52 pm

SO is ZX1-4 a better tourer than Hayabusa?


Different.  Smoother.  Less brutish on the low end.  More civilized.  Just as fast.  I don't think you could go wrong with either, but I'm very happy with my choice:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs671.snc4/61181_1472733852403_1055354486_31205111_3757459_n.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: richak on October 19, 2010, 03:03:07 pm

SO is ZX1-4 a better tourer than Hayabusa?


  It has four quality projection lamps for headlights and vibration free mirrors, better than anything else OEM. That makes it better right off the bat.  A rear grab handle and a centerstand just add to its lead as a tourer.  


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: CrazyRider on October 19, 2010, 03:29:17 pm
People crib a lot about hayabusa brakes. Thats the only beef I have heard not to say the beluga whale looks. ZX-14 is more like a blue whale though - prettier than the beluga  :twofinger:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: richak on October 19, 2010, 03:39:13 pm

People crib a lot about hayabusa brakes. Thats the only beef I have heard not to say the beluga whale looks. ZX-14 is more like a blue whale though - prettier than the beluga  :twofinger:


   As an at times daily observer of belugas in the wild, I say belugas are beautiful.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: JJP XX on October 19, 2010, 07:50:24 pm
SquareMan,

What frame sliders do you have on your ZX?

I'll be doing some more mods to mine over the winter.

Thanks,
John
:)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: richak on October 19, 2010, 08:20:54 pm

People crib a lot about hayabusa brakes. Thats the only beef I have heard not to say the beluga whale looks. ZX-14 is more like a blue whale though - prettier than the beluga  :twofinger:



   Blue whale, white whale, it all looks pretty good, don't you think?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Squareman357 on October 19, 2010, 11:37:10 pm

SquareMan,

What frame sliders do you have on your ZX?

I'll be doing some more mods to mine over the winter.

Thanks,
John
:)


Tuner X Factory No Cut frame sliders.  They have multiple mount points, supposedly for better dispersion of energy in a drop to keep from damaging the mounts or the slider base.  For reference, here is a link to them on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/No-Cut-Frame-Sliders-KAWASAKI-ZZR1400-ZZR-ZX14-ZX-14-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem563beb428cQQitemZ370372461196QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: gartec81 on June 15, 2013, 01:07:18 am


I had the Heli risers on for a while and they worked great for shorter trips but as I started to do longer trips my neck would bother me so I went with the LSL kit which worked out great; then I mounted a set of Renthal bars and picked up another inch or so.

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_3104.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_3178.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/keendog42/100_3179-1.jpg)





bringing this back from the dead.   any one know the model number or link to these exact bars. Im looking  to use this bar with the lsl kit too.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: gartec81 on June 15, 2013, 09:49:53 pm





bringing this back from the dead.   any one know the model number or link to these exact bars. Im looking  to use this bar with the lsl kit too.



Bump bump bbbbbbbb bumpity bumpets

What bars are these


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on March 31, 2015, 05:06:43 pm
Since selling the FJR1300 I've been experimenting on how to set-up the ZX14 for long runs. Notice the homemade ball mount for my XM radio and 12V outlet on handlebars. Of course, I do have handlebars and lowered footpegs. The only thing I need now is a bit higher windscreen. The MRA out of Germany looks good but I'm still checking.

The large bag on the passenger seat has my tent, sleeping pad and sleeping blanket(55* plus). I've also got in the bag a rear wheel roller and lube for  every other gas stop. The side bags have clothes, toiletries/towel, jacket and shoes. The tank bag has heated pants, warm gloves and balaclava(sp?), maps and camera.

I'm ready for the road!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on April 04, 2015, 12:33:53 pm
Nice work.  ZX14R is high on my next bike list.  Had a C14 and loved the smooth engine, which is one of the very few I4 I like, but didn't like the 700lbs weight.

One draw back of the ZX is insurance.  I checked and I would have to change ins co to keep from being hammered.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Dan K on April 05, 2015, 09:26:31 am

Nice work.  ZX14R is high on my next bike list.  Had a C14 and loved the smooth engine, which is one of the very few I4 I like, but didn't like the 700lbs weight.

One draw back of the ZX is insurance.  I checked and I would have to change ins co to keep from being hammered.



You and I seem to have very similar tastes in bikes. I was this  >< close to buying a ZX14 instead of the VFR. Toured out ZX14's are beautiful bikes, and while different in delivery, the power kills anything short of a Busa. I'd say the refinement level of the ZX14 is also an unsung quality - still want one.

- Dan


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on April 07, 2015, 09:04:55 am
I believe part of the reason the C14 is so well liked is precisely because it is based on the very refined ZX14 package.  With the immense power and classy cockpit, it plays the role of a flagship sportbike very well.  IMO better than the VFR1200 did for Honda.  Most of Kawasaki's ZX14 advertising emphasize drag racing and HP bragging rights, which is unfortunate, as it tilts the demographic towards risk takers and jacks up the insurance premium.

I look at it as an open class sportbike that tours well.  I still like the overall package of VFR1200's narrow V4 and shaft drive better, but now that I just sold off my SV1000S, it's time to get serious about finding a stablemate.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: NotDeadYet on April 07, 2015, 11:22:44 am
I liked my first one so much I bought another and set it up exactly the same.  I was able to transfer all of the aftermarket goodies from my first one to the second one.  My local body shop threw a new coat of paint on the saddle bags for me and the transformation was complete.  Here are pics of both bikes on sport touring duty.

My first one doing what it did best (I returned it to stock configuration and sold it after buying the second one).

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3911/14448475715_57b8a714fb.jpg)

My second one (and current ride) farkled out and once again doing what it does best.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5575/14480935090_f33c5e9492.jpg)

"Have ZX14 - will travel"


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on April 07, 2015, 11:40:36 am
Vol- Full coverage insurance is a bit over $300 per year for the ZX14. I sold the FJR so next bill will reflect only one bike which may raise the rate.

Vol and Dan- When I bought the ZX14 new I could not believe how smooth and vibration free it was. Smoothest bike I'd ever ridden.

NDY- How does the Laminar Lip work? I just bought a Zero Gravity touring windscreen that is in the mail and will be on bike this weekend. I actually like the looks of the LL better than what I bought but I'm thinking the barn door ZG will be better for the riding I will do. Blue bikes run best!!!!!

I'll post some pictures of new windscreen and soft bag brackets I made to secure them and keep them off painted parts this weekend.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: NotDeadYet on April 07, 2015, 11:49:51 am

NDY- How does the Laminar Lip work? I just bought a Zero Gravity touring windscreen that is in the mail and will be on bike this weekend. I actually like the looks of the LL better than what I bought but I'm thinking the barn door ZG will be better for the riding I will do. Blue bikes run best!!!!!


The laminar lip in the pics on both of my bikes is mounted in the recommended position over a stock windscreen.  It works well for me.  I'm 5'10" and the wind hits me just at the top of my helmet with the lip installed.  I know some guys who have drilled another set of mounting holes into the lip and have mounted it so it sits higher up on the windscreen.  They may be taller than me, I guess that would direct the wind up a bit higher for a taller rider, I don't find it necessary.  I also ran a laminar lip over the stock windscreen on my old ZZR1200.  I'm a fan of the product.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on April 07, 2015, 07:09:20 pm
BiB, I did a check with Progressive to see what a late model ZX14R would be.  Progressive now requires a VIN to do a quote online  :( so I grabbed a '13 ABS model off the web and plugged it in... HORRORS!!  :eek: more than double what I'm paying for the Speed Triple R, which is known for being a hooligan bike.  And that's with multi-bike discount with my VFR1200 :headscratch:  I would hate to see what it would be as my only bike.

Just for giggles, I checked Geico and they are a bit more reasonable.  Still a few $100's/yr more than the S3R.

I'm sure an earlier ZX14's would be cheaper to insure.  I remember both my '08 ZX10R and '08 RSV1000R Factory were both way much cheaper to insure than their late model equivalent.   But... if I do decide on a ZX14, I really want a '13+ with TC+ABS.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Burners on April 08, 2015, 01:18:08 pm

BiB, I did a check with Progressive to see what a late model ZX14R would be.  Progressive now requires a VIN to do a quote online  :( so I grabbed a '13 ABS model off the web and plugged it in... HORRORS!!  :eek: more than double what I'm paying for the Speed Triple R, which is known for being a hooligan bike.  And that's with multi-bike discount with my VFR1200 :headscratch:  I would hate to see what it would be as my only bike.

Just for giggles, I checked Geico and they are a bit more reasonable.  Still a few $100's/yr more than the S3R.

I'm sure an earlier ZX14's would be cheaper to insure.  I remember both my '08 ZX10R and '08 RSV1000R Factory were both way much cheaper to insure than their late model equivalent.   But... if I do decide on a ZX14, I really want a '13+ with TC+ABS.


Nice thought, but no, the older ones aren't much cheaper. Over $1000 per year for my 08, clean record, no claims or tickets, just shy of 50 years years old with 30+ years riding experience and insurance history. Apparently you gots to pay to play...


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on April 08, 2015, 01:29:22 pm

Apparently you gots to pay to play...

Or, in my case, it would be to pay for somebody else to play.  :lol:

Back when I had the C14, I felt the exact opposite, riding that "old man's bike" like a madman, and paying pretty much cruiser/bagger rates for insurance.   :p


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on April 08, 2015, 07:11:18 pm
Every state is different on insurance. Don't see how I'm getting off so lucky. Although, I have a $1,000 deductible.

Some pictures of my new fairing. Ordered it over weekend and got it last night, Tuesday. Can't beat that for free shipping! I've never been a fan of the Zero Gravity sport touring windscreen and how it looks. But I got it for the function. I think I will be pretty much free of wind.

I've got the XM radio and 12V plugged in on the handlebars. And the brackets I made for the soft bags. They are made of 1 1/4" aluminum angle and 1/4" steel. Work great to keep the bags off paint and I use small bungees to wrap around the soft bags they don't bounce around and follow lines of bike.     :bigok:



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on April 11, 2015, 10:00:51 am
Statefarm will take care of you Volfy.  


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on April 12, 2015, 10:28:39 am

Statefarm will take care of you Volfy.  

I might give them  a try again, but IIRC they require you to do auto and bike together.  I was a loyal SF customer for 15+yrs.  Never ever filed a claim.  Then they started to screw me on my homeowners premiums, raising rates yrs after yr.  Finally got fed up and left.

I'll see if they do online these days.  Don't  much care to go thru agents, now that I got used to online.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on April 12, 2015, 11:03:46 am
Anybody have Givi V35s and a top case mounted on 2012+ ZX14R?  I sorta remember reading somewhere that the exhaust cans needed to be lowered slightly to clear the V35s.

Right now, it's between ZX14R,  K1300S, and Sprint GT.  The Kawi's refinement and power puts it up front.  Take in insurance cost as a consideration and it's dead last. :(  With the BMW and Triumph, my insurance premium actually decreases vs. The S3R... with Progressive, Geico and DairyLand.  Nuts, when I'll be doing the same sort of sport touring on any of the 3.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on April 12, 2015, 02:18:25 pm
State farm insures my 14 only.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: NotDeadYet on April 12, 2015, 02:32:25 pm

Anybody have Givi V35s and a top case mounted on 2012+ ZX14R?  I sorta remember reading somewhere that the exhaust cans needed to be lowered slightly to clear the V35s.


I have seen a couple of 14R's with Givi V35's on them.  I know that if you have the stock exhaust on that you will have to lower the cans a bit to accomodate the bags.  I'm not sure if that's the case with aftermarket exhaust.

Here is a link to another site I frequent where a couple of the members fabricated a bracket to lower the stock cans enough to install the Givi V35's.  Scroll down through the posts for discussion and pics of the way they made the Givi's work on their 14R's.  Both look good when finished - at least as good as things can look with the stock cans.  It looks like a very easy fix.  A nice set of aftermarket exhaust would make things look even better.   :lol:


http://www.zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=FED066F6-D56B-84E2-16F10CD39578056B&page=1


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Dan K on April 13, 2015, 11:38:22 am

Anybody have Givi V35s and a top case mounted on 2012+ ZX14R?  I sorta remember reading somewhere that the exhaust cans needed to be lowered slightly to clear the V35s.

Right now, it's between ZX14R,  K1300S, and Sprint GT.  The Kawi's refinement and power puts it up front.  Take in insurance cost as a consideration and it's dead last. :(  With the BMW and Triumph, my insurance premium actually decreases vs. The S3R... with Progressive, Geico and DairyLand.  Nuts, when I'll be doing the same sort of sport touring on any of the 3.


So funny. When I owned my Sprint ST, its replacement was between the ZX14, K1300S and VFR1200...you know which way I went. I think the K1300S and the Sprint are too similar to the VFR1200. If you are adding a third bike to the mix, and it's not a race/track bike, why not a sidecar rig (if you have kids or a dog, that is...)? Or a dual sport/adventurer tourer? Maybe even a cruiser - a Guzzi California or even an Indian or Harley?

I always try to differentiate as much as possible... Like you, I have the VFR1200 and a naked bike.

When I was looking, the ZX14 was also in front for me, and the insurance premiums also were a put off.  Difficulty in finding a reasonably priced K1300S and finding a nice deal on the VFR is what ended up making the decision for me - I wanted all 3 bikes, any one of them would have done it.

If you are for sure looking at only those 3, I'd say go for the ZX14. While also similar to the VFR, it's like a K1300S but as equally refined, and even more powerful. The insurance hit is negligible when comparing the price of the bike vs. the price of the K1300S.

Good luck - great problem to have!

 -Dan


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on April 13, 2015, 01:04:50 pm

Here is a link to another site I frequent where a couple of the members fabricated a bracket to lower the stock cans enough to install the Givi V35's.  Scroll down through the posts for discussion and pics of the way they made the Givi's work on their 14R's.  Both look good when finished - at least as good as things can look with the stock cans.  It looks like a very easy fix.  A nice set of aftermarket exhaust would make things look even better.   :lol:

http://www.zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=FED066F6-D56B-84E2-16F10CD39578056B&page=1


Yes, that's the thread I read.  I remember some of those pics.  Thanks.

If I go with the ZX14R, those OEM cans got to go.  First mod I did on the C14 was to ditch the potato launcher... the ZX14's got TWO.   :crazy:    :lol:


So funny. When I owned my Sprint ST, its replacement was between the ZX14, K1300S and VFR1200...you know which way I went. I think the K1300S and the Sprint are too similar to the VFR1200. If you are adding a third bike to the mix, and it's not a race/track bike, why not a sidecar rig (if you have kids or a dog, that is...)? Or a dual sport/adventurer tourer? Maybe even a cruiser - a Guzzi California or even an Indian or Harley?

I always try to differentiate as much as possible... Like you, I have the VFR1200 and a naked bike.

When I was looking, the ZX14 was also in front for me, and the insurance premiums also were a put off.  Difficulty in finding a reasonably priced K1300S and finding a nice deal on the VFR is what ended up making the decision for me - I wanted all 3 bikes, any one of them would have done it.

If you are for sure looking at only those 3, I'd say go for the ZX14. While also similar to the VFR, it's like a K1300S but as equally refined, and even more powerful. The insurance hit is negligible when comparing the price of the bike vs. the price of the K1300S.

Good luck - great problem to have!

 -Dan


That's just too funny.  Yes it is pretty much down to those 3.  The R1200RS is still a possibility, but my taste for big twins have soured a bit since I test rode a Norge GT8V recently.  I had forgotten how much I appreciate a smooth and powerful motor, till I rode one that was neither.

For a while now, I did have a stable full of different genre bikes.  While fun, some just became niche bikes, only taken out on sunny Sundays, or when a particular mood strikes.  In this past 2 years, I ended up riding the VFR1200 probably 80+% of the time.  For me, a 550-590 lbs sportbike that tours well is where it's at.  I want to have the confidence that I can hop on any bike in my garage and ride the way I ride the VFR1200, competently and hopefully with a bit different character.  I've ridden all 3, plus having owned a C14 and Sprint ST, so I am sure I know what I'm buying with any of them.

The hunt... is on.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Dan K on April 13, 2015, 04:54:31 pm
Yeah, I'm with you on the type of riding that suits me best, but when I had the Sprint and a track bike (Daytona 675), I NEVER rode the Daytona on the street, and it wasn't worth keeping (it was a minty street 675, not a rashed up track bike) for 5-6 track days a year. SO - I went to the Tuono, which I also ride on the track and which also has a home made rack that takes a Givi top case.

I just don't know if I'd want a ZX14 and a VFR1200 in the garage at the same time (although I'm limited on space...)

Next bike added to the two I already have would likely be a dedicated track bike, then maybe a cruiser or true dual sport. Maybe even a supermoto, like a DR400SM.

Regardless, good problem to have. You'll love the smooth power of the ZX14 - I know some people say the VFR is not a visceral enough ride, but it's down right angry compared to the ZX14.

- Dan


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DDFZ1 on June 01, 2015, 12:25:47 am
Go the ZX14ninjaforum and do a search for 650 V-strom luggage rack adopted to the ZX14r.  
This is my Bike loaded for travel.

http://zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=7D78DC2A-DE7E-EB5C-D6D34E955782639E

I like the rack's forward mounting location plus the rear as it spreads the load. And the rack has good passenger grab rails.
The guy that added many steel pieces together then bolted that to the rear Aluminum section looks like too much weight.  The empty V46 trunk weighs about 9 lb. and can hold about 22 lb.  I don't put heavy stuff in the Trunk.
The reason the 2012+ exhaust mufflers are so large are because the Catalytic units are inside and DOT requires that the noise limit for the ZX be no more than 80 decibels-what a joke.  The mufflers weigh 17.4 ib. each!
I've added 2" spacers under each handle bar.  I used GenMar.  I released the Brake line from the triple tree (bolted) and that gave me extra hose.  I used
Buell foot pegs for more leg room.
The Yellow waterproof bag has all my Tent Stuff.
I weighed everything for my trip; I had 94 lb. of stuff and the Bike's weight 570 lb. which equals the FJR1300 curb weight.
The 14r is such a refined motorcycle-smooth, powerful, great Brakes, decent mpgs.  The miles just click by.  If you want more motor get the ECU reflashed.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on June 01, 2015, 09:44:46 am
Beautiful blue color!


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on June 09, 2015, 04:11:33 pm
Not having a fob alone is enough reason to choose the 14.

Volfy, get the 14r. Its phenomonal, just factor in higher bars from the start and helis arent enough just so you know.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: J-Mac on June 10, 2015, 08:38:51 am
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp236/Jimmymac25/newnail001_zps6938e991.jpg) (http://s415.photobucket.com/user/Jimmymac25/media/newnail001_zps6938e991.jpg.html)
I love them both. :inlove:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: alekkas on June 10, 2015, 09:41:15 pm
The green bike looks pissed to be sitting in a garage.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 14, 2015, 11:11:34 am
From another thread...

What would you be giving up in the garage?

'14 Trophy SE?
'13 Speed3R?
'11 Sprint GT? or
'10 VFR1200, the oldest bike of the bunch?

My guess is the Sprint or the Trophy goes, only based on your much professed love for the big VFR. Sprint and VFR too similar, but the Trophy may be too much TOUR as opposed to sport?

Interested to hear about this one!

- Dan

Dan, the S3R is getting traded in for the ZX14R.  I originally bought the naked streetfighter as my warm weather bike to get as much airflow as possible.  What I have come to realize is that when the temp goes much above 93F, you only want enough air to evaporate sweat for cooling.  Any more is just hot air, which actually adds to the heat load.  Plus I started using this phase change cooling vest (http://www.techniche-intl.com/catalogus/techkewl-cooling-vest.html) this year, and that actually need even more wind protection to prolong its effectiveness.  Overall, even though I love flicking the S3R around town, it isn't a bike that I could ride out of my garage regardless of the mission at hand.  This will likely be my last naked bike.

Next to go will be the Sprint GT.  Nothing wrong with this one.  Triumph fixed every complaint I had with the Sprint ST and I would have no problem riding it as my SPORT tourer.  Unfortunately, it is the low hanging fruit next to VFR1200 and ZX14R.

VFR1200.  Out of all the bikes I've owned, I love this one the most.  I will try to sell my '10, now that I have the ZX14R for my hi-perf fix.  Eventually, I fully intend on getting a newer '13 VFR1200.  

Trophy SE.  The more I ride this big girl, the more I appreciate how it calms my riding and makes even the most boring commute into a serene and zen-like experience.  I got almost 50mpg on my first tankful!    This machine is the antithesis of the ZX14R and VFR1200.  It's like climbing out of a Porsche 911 turbo and settling into a Bentley Continental GT.  I could go fast... but what's the point?!  :)

So... the ZX14R.  Like this thread title says, mine will be ridden in sport touring mode.  SW Motech racks will be added to let me hang the Givi top cases and V35s I already have.  Throw in a center stand, and I'm good to go.  Should be very interesting to see how it compares with my experiences with VFR1200, Sprint GT and C14.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on August 14, 2015, 11:58:06 am
I am waiting for your initial ride impressions of the ZX14R. And the sporty riding position.



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Dan K on August 14, 2015, 01:29:07 pm
I still use my Tuono as my warm weather bike... will have to look into those techkewl cooling vests for the commute on hot days, but they do look pricey...

Keep us posted on the ZX14 - interested to hear your particular take on it and a "comparo" with the VFR.

 -Dan


From another thread...
Dan, the S3R is getting traded in for the ZX14R.  I originally bought the naked streetfighter as my warm weather bike to get as much airflow as possible.  What I have come to realize is that when the temp goes much above 93F, you only want enough air to evaporate sweat for cooling.  Any more is just hot air, which actually adds to the heat load.  Plus I started using this phase change cooling vest (http://www.techniche-intl.com/catalogus/techkewl-cooling-vest.html) this year, and that actually need even more wind protection to prolong its effectiveness.  Overall, even though I love flicking the S3R around town, it isn't a bike that I could ride out of my garage regardless of the mission at hand.  This will likely be my last naked bike.

Next to go will be the Sprint GT.  Nothing wrong with this one.  Triumph fixed every complaint I had with the Sprint ST and I would have no problem riding it as my SPORT tourer.  Unfortunately, it is the low hanging fruit next to VFR1200 and ZX14R.

VFR1200.  Out of all the bikes I've owned, I love this one the most.  I will try to sell my '10, now that I have the ZX14R for my hi-perf fix.  Eventually, I fully intend on getting a newer '13 VFR1200.  

Trophy SE.  The more I ride this big girl, the more I appreciate how it calms my riding and makes even the most boring commute into a serene and zen-like experience.  I got almost 50mpg on my first tankful!    This machine is the antithesis of the ZX14R and VFR1200.  It's like climbing out of a Porsche 911 turbo and settling into a Bentley Continental GT.  I could go fast... but what's the point?!  :)

So... the ZX14R.  Like this thread title says, mine will be ridden in sport touring mode.  SW Motech racks will be added to let me hang the Givi top cases and V35s I already have.  Throw in a center stand, and I'm good to go.  Should be very interesting to see how it compares with my experiences with VFR1200, Sprint GT and C14.



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 16, 2015, 12:49:46 am
Okay, here's my "first impression" report:

Other than an "extended" ride home, I haven't had a chance to ride the ZX much yet. I spent the day going over the bike to make sure everything is to my liking.  The PO must be a big dude, because he just about maxed out the suspension preloads.  Damping were set pretty high too. The fronts are easy to get back to defaults. The rear shock does not have remote preload adjuster, just collar rings. Boy do I hate those things. Sweated my butt off for more than an hour before I got it back to near default, skinning a finger in the process. *&%$#@!!   On the bright side, fully adjustable suspension on both ends - rebound and compression - so dialing it in should be no problem.  Chain drive is not my favorite and can gets messy if the owner doesn't know how to apply chain lube properly. I'll have to open up the front sprocket cover to check. On previous new-to-me bikes, I have found all kinds of gunk under that front cover and inside the chain guard. This one only has 1400 miles and looks very clean.  Regardless, no biggie. Part of the process.

Also adjusted the Vortex rearsets more to my liking. PO moved them as low and forward as possible - another sign he's a big guy. I'm usually fine with stock peg positions, so I repositioned them to near where the stock pegs are.

Now the dynamics... bike came with a set of almost new Q3 tires with a 190/55 rear, instead of the 190/50 stock size. From what I know, replacing the full exhaust probably saved some 30-40 lbs. The bike handles very well for such a big bike and is neutral in the corners. Even though the wheelbase is shorter than the VFR1200, my first impressions confirmed what I've read in reviews of the ZX14R, which is that turn in and transitions aren't as sharp and lively as the Honda. I think Kawi purposely made it inherently stable, since it is capable of such high speeds and quick acceleration. Being that the suspension was set so stiff, I will have to re-evaluate once I got the settings tweaked to suit me. I do expect the bike to liven up a bit now that the legs are freed up a bit.

Comfort wise... wow! This thing is noticeably comfier than the VFR1200, and maybe even the Sprint GT. I was completely surprised by this, since cycle-ergo show a much greater forward lean than either of those. I suspect the seating ergos has much to do with the comfort factor. Even with the forward lean, the seat felt grabby and supportive, and assuming that proper "bend at the hip" posture felt very natural. In contrast, the VFR1200 stock seat is horrible in this regard, giving the rider's butt little traction to anchor down, and so forces the wrists to bear much of rider's weight. I believe the way the sides of the fuel tank are sculpted also makes a huge difference. The VFR1200 has very pronounced carve-outs that makes the bike feel svelte and sportbike like, but they don't give the rider's legs much to grab onto to support the rider's weight. ZX14R's mid section feels wider but also much more supportive, like riding a horse... or humping a whale.

I already knew the C14's 1351cc I4 was silky smooth, and this 1441cc beast did not disappoint either. It doesn't quite match K1600"s I6 for ultimate smoothness and fat torque, but pretty darn close.  Engine-wise, it's a draw vs. the VFR1200. I still prefer the narrow angle V4's growl and tractable power, but this Kawi is probably the best open-class I4 on the planet.

Heat management is excellent. I read that some riders complain about their knees and shins being roasted. I felt no such thing in 100F heat. There was some heat creeping up from under my boots, likely from the exhaust pipes. I'll probably install a couple of heat shields I saved from my C14. Wind protection is also excellent, in a sportbike kinda way.  I like the still air cocoon of the Trophy, but not on a bike like this.  Here, there is coverage all around the rider to deflect the headwind, but exposes enough of the slipstream for a sportbike feel.  PO installed a ZG double bubble. I've already ordered a sport touring screen, which should be the most I'd ever need.  Verdict: a draw with VFR1200.

Quad projector headlights, as expected, are superb. Already excellent low beams will get 55w 4300K HID conversion. High beam will stay 65w halogen. I much prefer this to the single low and high of the VFR1200, triple bucket of the Sprint GT, or even dual H4 of the Trophy... especially for sport touring duty.

That's it for now.  I'll give another $0.02 after more saddle time.

(https://www.sport-touring.net/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=104873.0;attach=91801;image)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on August 21, 2015, 04:00:40 pm
Draw between the 14R and VFR's engine?

You cray-cray. That V4 is pathtic in comparison, especially if you still havn't removed the restrictions.  IMO


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on August 21, 2015, 07:11:52 pm
 :eek:

 :headscratch:


Take it out of RAIN mode. My ZX14(1352cc) would kill a 1600 BMW and it's "fat Torque". VFR1200? No contest.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 21, 2015, 11:19:58 pm
Yous guys... of course the 14R has wayyyy more power and will spank the VFR1200 in 1/4 mile.  That is what Kawi built this bike to do - end the bragging rights feud once and for all... except the H2 kinda is the new King these days.  :lol:

Well... that ain't what I bought the bike for.  I don't drag, I don't do the mile, and I don't much care if one bike woops another bike.  My yardstick is more about which bike - and engine - is more entertaining for spirited road riding.  The one that takes me to the next stop quickest won't necessarily be the one I like riding the most.

You two will love this... I'm actually in the process of detuning the 14R.  The PO installed an Aka header and Yoshi R77 dual slip-on.  It breathes very well, excellent for top end, but maybe a little too well.  I took off the left side slip-on and just fabricated a 2-1/8" pipe plug to close off that end of the "Y".  This should move the volumetric efficiency down the RPM scale some.  This is exactly what Yoshi does with their Full Systems for the ZX14R - one sided only - similar to the C14.  I might even swap the remaining R77 can with a longer Yoshi TRS can I have lying around, which will bias the exhaust even more toward the lower end.

BTW, speaking of K1600... I test rode a couple of GTs and just about fell in love with that V6.  After I've had my fun with the Trophy SE, it is getting traded in for a K16GT.  As a K16 rider said, it is like riding a Swiss watch.  But that's another topic for another day.  :)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on August 22, 2015, 11:53:45 am
 :headscratch:

Curiosity #1- A STOCK ZX14R has a ton of torque. No need to spin it over 5,000 RPMS to whip about anything.

Curiosity #2- Double check your understanding of how exhaust systems work because I think you "monkeying" around the way you plan will not have
                    the effects you desire on the powerband. But it will plug it up and cause other undesirable effects.



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on August 22, 2015, 12:07:21 pm
^ Yup, no way you can make it better than Yosh. Just put a stock system back on and the extra weight will de-tune the shit out of it.

Why you wouldn't want to maxamize what it does best when you have so many other bikes is beyond me but clearly I've demonstated I don't no much.

Also, once you've been riding it in 100F heat for long enough for the oil to get nice and hot it will roast the shit out of you. Mine does anyway.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HanksXXX on August 22, 2015, 12:45:33 pm
Will it work?   Yes

Will it work well?...no

I've had a number of ZX14's and will offer the following solution:

Find a 06-07 Gen 1 header. The pipe diameter is smaller which will help at lower rpm's.
08-11 header has a catalytic converter built into it so don't use one.
Find 06-07 Gen 1 mufflers and cut the pipes off, then weld an adapter on to fit the muffler.
Pics available of a set I have. The RS-77 mufflers have a 2 1/4" ID.
This combo will give you more low end, allow u to use the center stand, and allow you to add bags if you decide to.
Hank
I've been all through this on my bikes.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on August 22, 2015, 01:20:56 pm
You're kidding? Really? How did it effect power everywhere else?

I'd rather use 06-07 pipes anyway cause they look better.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 22, 2015, 06:14:23 pm

Will it work?   Yes

Will it work well?...no

I've had a number of ZX14's and will offer the following solution:

Find a 06-07 Gen 1 header. The pipe diameter is smaller which will help at lower rpm's.
08-11 header has a catalytic converter built into it so don't use one.
Find 06-07 Gen 1 mufflers and cut the pipes off, then weld an adapter on to fit the muffler.
Pics available of a set I have. The RS-77 mufflers have a 2 1/4" ID.
This combo will give you more low end, allow u to use the center stand, and allow you to add bags if you decide to.
Hank
I've been all through this on my bikes.

Thanks for the suggestions.  That is very close to my train of thought.  I do plan on adding a center stand, and later, SW Motech Racks for the Givi 35's I already have, which is partly why I'm converting to a single-side system, like Yoshi's Full System (see attached pic).  As nice as the Akra headers are, they are ultra free flowing to do what nost ZX14R owners want, which is max HP gain, especially towards the top end.  Well... I'm not most ZX14R owners... as I actually want to go the other way. :lol:  I wish my insurance company would listen to me and take that into account... fat chance.

For a start, I am cooking with what I got already.  I'll see how the single R77 goes, then switch to the longer TRS can just for giggles.  Easy swap anyway.  If I think there is still room for "improvement", then I'll move upstream to the headers.  Actually, if I have my druthers, I'll drop in C14's 1352cc with VVT.  That '09 C14 had exactly the kind of power characterstics I'm after.  Too bad it weighed 700 lbs.

Thankfully, mine didn't come with the stock potato guns.  :)  Even if it did, I wouldn't put them back on.  :crazy:  By my estimation, my ZX14R is sitting at about 540 lbs RTR right now.  Swapping in the Shorai batt will delete another 5 lbs.  The just arrived SW Motech Alu Rack will add about 6 lbs.  Center Stand and pannier racks another 15.  What I'm after is a hyper sport tourer about 550 lbs before luggage, with an abundance of smooth power, and mildly aggressive ergos.

I do apologize if I offend the sensibilities of some ZX14 owners.  I thought of all the Big Ninja threads, my wacky thoughts here might ruffle the least amount of feathers.  :lol:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HanksXXX on August 22, 2015, 06:22:04 pm
Be aware that the center stand is not a consideration with a lot of aftermarket manufacturers.
You may find the Akra out the right only still doesn't clear or it may...trial and error.
No offense taken here, make it your's!


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on August 23, 2015, 02:50:08 pm

Will it work?   Yes

Will it work well?...no

I've had a number of ZX14's and will offer the following solution:

Find a 06-07 Gen 1 header. The pipe diameter is smaller which will help at lower rpm's.
08-11 header has a catalytic converter built into it so don't use one.
Find 06-07 Gen 1 mufflers and cut the pipes off, then weld an adapter on to fit the muffler.
Pics available of a set I have. The RS-77 mufflers have a 2 1/4" ID.
This combo will give you more low end, allow u to use the center stand, and allow you to add bags if you decide to.
Hank
I've been all through this on my bikes.


I'm being told by some the Gen 1 head will not fit the 14R's, some say it will.  I already bought the header. Does your number of ZX14's include the 14R?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HanksXXX on August 23, 2015, 05:16:06 pm
Yes, I have a 14r now.
Can't imagine why a header won't interchange..
Ivan (Ivan's Performance Products) uses the first gen Akro's on the r models regularly.
I want to re-install the centerstand and am in the process of finding an early header to go with the modified midpipes I have already.
Like the original poster, I'm more interested in low and mid range than a couple horsepower up top.
FYI, the Yosh mid pipes I currently have with the OEM header measure 2 1/4" OD.
They are very nicely bent and probably flow like crazy compared to the OEM first gen mid pipes.
I am not sure at what point they will show a HP loss, maybe not at all.
Ivan told me the OEM r pipes are too big as is the r Akro, that's why he uses the first gen Akro.
Next thing I'm going to do is the 06-07 header and oem mid pipes on my r with the Yosh R-77's and centerstand.
I'm fairly confident it will do exactly what I want.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on August 23, 2015, 05:52:25 pm
Ok cool, going see how it goes. Id have to imagine it running better than the stock system on my R. Lose some weight to without the stupid cats


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HanksXXX on August 23, 2015, 09:19:02 pm
Be aware that the r midpipes don't work with the 06-07 header...the bends (exit points) are different..


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 23, 2015, 09:50:24 pm
My understanding is that '11 and earlier headers include a cat before the Y, whereas '12+ relocated the cats to the potato guns, correct?  Also, by mid pipe, are you referring to the section between the "Y" and the muffler?  Or are you talking about the section between the individual down pipes and the "Y"?  I thought the OEM "headers" is one welded assembly all the way to the "Y".

Yes, the idea is to keep the exhaust gas velocity high in the RPM range most important to the rider, for better throttle response, more consistent fueling, and of course more HP.  The over-sized aftermarket pipes, and the '12+ headers to some extent, favors upper RPM, where the gas volume is great.  Then at low + mid RPM ranges, where less gas volume means slower velocity, "streetability" is compromised.  The same applies to the intake side.  This is volumetric efficiency.

Truth be told, I do not expect any effect of my tinkering to be dramatic.  It'll likely be subtle, which is why I'm not dumping a lot of time and money into the effort.  I would regard any "improvement" in my favor to be side benefit of accommodating the center stand and hard luggage, which is really my main goal.  We are talking about setting up ZX14's in sport touring mode, no?  :)

In any case, it's fun to tinker, and partly why I kept swapping bikes.  Once I get a bike all sorted out, I lose the excuse to scratch that tinkering itch.

Anyhow, still too darn hot around here so I didn't get much done other than installing the SW Motech Alu Rack and Cortech tank bag ring.  Hopefully the temps will start to drop some from this point on.  

Any of you ever tried Brock's center stand stop?  It is supposed to let the CS rest on it, in case aftermarket exhaust has no provisions for CS stop.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HanksXXX on August 24, 2015, 08:20:25 am
There is no catalytic converter in the front section (header) of the 06-07 bikes. They were in the mufflers.
In 2008 and thru 2011, there were 3 catalytic converters, one in each muffler and one in the header.
In 2012, the r model, there is no catalytic converter in the header but 1 in each muffler.
There are 2 different size collars that fir between the header and mid pipe with the 06-07 having 1 size and the 08-11 having another.
This was done since the exits on the 08-11 header were slightly larger, probably to accommodate flow with the catalytic converter added.
The mid pipe I was referring to is the section of pipe between the header and the muffler.
This pipe is separate on aftermarket exhaust systems but welded to the factory mufflers.
I cut the mid pipes from a pair of 06-07 mufflers and welded a very short section of 2" OD exhaust pipe to each.
Before welding, I mounted everything on the bike to be sure the mufflers would clear the Givi bags, marked them and welded them.
The first mufflers I tried were to loud so off they came.
I bought a set of Scorpions and they were to loud too.
I had to make adapters to slide over the 2" pipe I welded to the mid pipe to use 2 1/4" ID mufflers. such as the R-77's.
Moving to the 2012r model, I tried my mid pipes but the wouldn't fit with the 2012 header.
Presently, I have the Yosh mid pipes and mufflers but no center stand,
I am going to install an 06-07 header over the winter, utilizing my custom mid pipes with the R-77's, so I can use the center stand.
You loose the little wing or fairing under the rear of the motor with the center stand which doesn't bother me at all.
The factory mid pipes have a stop for the center stand.
The factory lift handle does not work with SW Motec racks for the Givi's.
Yes, Broc does have a center stand stop available but I never tried it.
For those of you still awake and reading, I wanted to clarify what I'd done and not done so as not to confuse anyone.
And yeah, my bike is a great sport tourer with Givi's, LSL handlebar kit, Corbin peg lowering kit, radar detector' and heated gear plug..
I have a modified stock seat with cowl for solo use and a dual Sargent when the wife rides.
Ride safe...
Hank


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on August 24, 2015, 10:36:05 am
The Kawasaki center stand kit comes with a rubber bumper for the stock pipe that the CS stops against. Since I have an after market pipe I had to make a stop myself. The frame has two pre-drilled holes that mount the spring attachment point thingie. I used 3/4" strap about 8"(?) long bolted in the two holes in the frame. I put a rubber bumper on the CS. Bingo!

About exhaust flow and low end vs top end. Big mistake when I hear bench racers saying four strokes NEED back pressure. A great running engine needs proper timing of the scavenging effect of exhaust flow. Exhaust gas/wave travels at about the speed of sound. A slower running engine needs a longer, and/or larger(slows down exhaust travel speed), pipe to properly time the benefits of flow. Then a high RPM engine needs a shorter pipe due to the limited time between exhaust valve opening and closing. And too much back pressure goofs everything up.

I would never put a 14(1352cc) pipe on a 14R(1443cc). If I wanted more performance out of a 14R aimed at lower RPM, and since no one makes a torque pipe for a torque monster,  I'd find a stock pipe and put on slip ons.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HanksXXX on August 24, 2015, 11:53:36 am
and installing slip ons will enhance low end performance how?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 24, 2015, 12:13:39 pm
Hank, thanks for taking the time to explain and list out what you've done.  That helps a lot.  :bigok:

In addition to the stock 14R seat that came with the bike, I have a stock 14 seat (without cowl) and a C14 OEM low seat, leftover parts from my C14 days.  I've got the older 14 seat on it now, since the SW Motech Alu Rack will not work with the cowled stock seat.  I'm gonna try the C14 low seat to see how it works on the ZX.  It was very comfy on the C14, and looks great too.

Blue, to clarify again, I'm not mucking with the exhaust just to boost HP/torque down low.  As I said, the primary driver is accommodating touring gear.  I am, however, interested in how the engine responds to the changes.  I'm betting my guesses are correct, but I'll be more than happy to settle for whatever configuration I have at my disposal that'll get me the best compromises.

Nobody here mentioned back pressure.  This is far too simplistic a view on how exhaust tuning works.  I've messed with engines big and small, 4stroke and 2stroke, to have a good understanding, both theoretical POV and practical experience.  I remember back in the days of playing with tuned pipe on 2stroke glow engines for RC airplanes.  Talk about "tuning"... that was literally tuning the length of the pipe and watch for max prop RPM.  Back pressure, as it relates to port stuffing and scavenging, is much more relevant for 2stroke.  4 stroke exhaust tuning is much more nuanced.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on August 24, 2015, 02:14:15 pm

The Kawasaki center stand kit comes with a rubber bumper for the stock pipe that the CS stops against. Since I have an after market pipe I had to make a stop myself. The frame has two pre-drilled holes that mount the spring attachment point thingie. I used 3/4" strap about 8"(?) long bolted in the two holes in the frame. I put a rubber bumper on the CS. Bingo!

About exhaust flow and low end vs top end. Big mistake when I hear bench racers saying four strokes NEED back pressure. A great running engine needs proper timing of the scavenging effect of exhaust flow. Exhaust gas/wave travels at about the speed of sound. A slower running engine needs a longer, and/or larger(slows down exhaust travel speed), pipe to properly time the benefits of flow. Then a high RPM engine needs a shorter pipe due to the limited time between exhaust valve opening and closing. And too much back pressure goofs everything up.

I would never put a 14(1352cc) pipe on a 14R(1443cc). If I wanted more performance out of a 14R aimed at lower RPM, and since no one makes a torque pipe for a torque monster,  I'd find a stock pipe and put on slip ons.


Say what? I


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on August 24, 2015, 02:15:16 pm
If Ivan says the small diameter header works better on the '12+ bikes I'll go with what he says thank you very much.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on August 24, 2015, 04:19:46 pm

If Ivan says the small diameter header works better on the '12+ bikes I'll go with what he says thank you very much.


OK, I'm not going to presume to be smarter than Ivan but the law of physics and smarter tuners than us have said different. You are welcome very much.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on August 24, 2015, 04:22:02 pm

and installing slip ons will enhance low end performance how?


OK again, you guys are smarter than me. I took the above question to be sarcastic.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HanksXXX on August 24, 2015, 05:22:41 pm



OK again, you guys are smarter than me. I took the above question to be sarcastic.


It really wasn't meant to be sarcastic nor was I ball busting.
You stated adding slip ons would enhance low end and I asked how.
As far as Ivan goes, he and I are old friends and I've had a good number of my project bikes on his dyno.
He owns a 14r and has tried the new design Akro on it as well as the first gen design.
He likes the first gen pipe on the r model because the pipes are a smaller diameter and has dyno sheets to make his point.
Knowing that, I wanted to try the first gen header on an r model and I still plan to do so...as soon as the road department salts the roads and I stop riding for the season. Till then, its ride every day I can...:)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 24, 2015, 05:45:02 pm
What's the old racer's saying?  There is no free lunch.  Unless you fundamentally change the engine design, all the intake and exhaust tuning is an exercise of robbing Peter to pay Paul.  Regardless of yr and state of tune, it has stupid power anywhere in the rev band.

For me, that is precisely why I ride these open class sportbikes... because they got so much power and torque, I don't have to tweak both ends to make the darn engine breathe just right for me to be happy.  Heck I chopped off some 5-6" off my VFR1200's 2Bro Titanium can for no other reason than to fit under the Givi V35 pannier.  The result was so freaking loud I stuff a dB killer in there to quiet it down.  I have absolutely no doubt I messed up the exhaust tuning so bad it wasn't even funny.  Do I give a sh!t?!  Heck no!  That 1237cc V4 still got so much pull it pegs my Smile Per Mile meter every time I ride it.  Other VFR1200 owners get all bent out of shape with derestricting this and reflash that, I have never felt the need to do any of that to mine, other than to ride the poop out of it for the past 3yrs +.

I'm regretting why I even bothered to bring up the topic of exhaust tuning.  Okay, I lied... it's fun to talk about it.  :lol:  Point is... guys, it's a great platform that is powerful and flexible enough to us all to make it into what we want out of it, be it 9sec 1/4 or sport touring sniffing the flowers at 120+.  I bet I can stuff a couple of potatos into the R77 slip-ons, and just what leaks out of pipe slip joints will let the ZX14R blow past my VFR1200.

There... I said it.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on August 24, 2015, 06:26:27 pm



It really wasn't meant to be sarcastic nor was I ball busting.
You stated adding slip ons would enhance low end and I asked how.
As far as Ivan goes, he and I are old friends and I've had a good number of my project bikes on his dyno.
He owns a 14r and has tried the new design Akro on it as well as the first gen design.
He likes the first gen pipe on the r model because the pipes are a smaller diameter and has dyno sheets to make his point.
Knowing that, I wanted to try the first gen header on an r model and I still plan to do so...as soon as the road department salts the roads and I stop riding for the season. Till then, its ride every day I can...:)


Everything is good.   :bigok:

Wish I had a friend with a dyno. Putting slip ons in place of potato launchers will eliminate two plugs(catalytic converters) and reduce back pressure. Has to help. I would love to see these dyno sheets on small pipes on a bigger engine.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on August 24, 2015, 06:32:44 pm

What's the old racer's saying?  There is no free lunch.  Unless you fundamentally change the engine design, all the intake and exhaust tuning is an exercise of robbing Peter to pay Paul.  Regardless of yr and state of tune, it has stupid power anywhere in the rev band.

For me, that is precisely why I ride these open class sportbikes... because they got so much power and torque, I don't have to tweak both ends to make the darn engine breathe just right for me to be happy.  Heck I chopped off some 5-6" off my VFR1200's 2Bro Titanium can for no other reason than to fit under the Givi V35 pannier.  The result was so freaking loud I stuff a dB killer in there to quiet it down.  I have absolutely no doubt I messed up the exhaust tuning so bad it wasn't even funny.  Do I give a sh!t?!  Heck no!  That 1237cc V4 still got so much pull it pegs my Smile Per Mile meter every time I ride it.  Other VFR1200 owners get all bent out of shape with derestricting this and reflash that, I have never felt the need to do any of that to mine, other than to ride the poop out of it for the past 3yrs +.

I'm regretting why I even bothered to bring up the topic of exhaust tuning.  Okay, I lied... it's fun to talk about it.  :lol:  Point is... guys, it's a great platform that is powerful and flexible enough to us all to make it into what we want out of it, be it 9sec 1/4 or sport touring sniffing the flowers at 120+.  I bet I can stuff a couple of potatos into the R77 slip-ons, and just what leaks out of pipe slip joints will let the ZX14R blow past my VFR1200.

There... I said it.


I have always had high HP bikes. Always give me a lot of HP. Because a lot can be managed but if you need more........ too bad, so sad.

Months ago I talked my friend into riding my ZX14. He had never even sat on a bike with over 90 HP. I told him to do everything slow and short shift. He loved it. Should have seen the smile on his face. He shifted every gear at 3,000 RPMs and said "wow, this thing doesn't care what gear you are in". That's the point!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HanksXXX on August 24, 2015, 07:22:28 pm
Blue...third dyno chart down...old style Akro on r model:
http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/12zx142.htm

Volfy...no free lunch...well in the case of the ZX14's, the motor is restricted/detuned...an ecu flash corrects that.
But I get your point and in general agree with it.

None of you guys know me but I bought a zx14 to slow down.
My turbocharged, intercooled Honda Blackbird at 255HP and 155 lbs torque was much faster.
The more I rode it, the more I got used to it, and the harder I rode it and...
before I hurt myself, I sold it but I had put 40,000 trouble free miles on it in 4 years.
I bought an 07 ZX 14 and 3 years later, I bought my r model.
It's fast enough for this 68 year old but I do like to tinker... :eek:
Volfy, lemme know if you want to get rid of the Akro...:)



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on August 24, 2015, 09:30:27 pm

Blue...third dyno chart down...old style Akro on r model:
http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/12zx142.htm

Volfy...no free lunch...well in the case of the ZX14's, the motor is restricted/detuned...an ecu flash corrects that.
But I get your point and in general agree with it.

None of you guys know me but I bought a zx14 to slow down.
My turbocharged, intercooled Honda Blackbird at 255HP and 155 lbs torque was much faster.
The more I rode it, the more I got used to it, and the harder I rode it and...
before I hurt myself, I sold it but I had put 40,000 trouble free miles on it in 4 years.
I bought an 07 ZX 14 and 3 years later, I bought my r model.
It's fast enough for this 68 year old but I do like to tinker... :eek:
Volfy, lemme know if you want to get ride of the Akro...:)
 :D



You're OK by me!

I noticed quite a few months ago on your profile the 2000 Bandit with the hair dryer. Thanks for the dyno chart. I sure would love to know the pipe sizes, etc. of the two in comparison.

By the way, the last sentence- How are you going to ride the Akro pipe!  


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HanksXXX on August 25, 2015, 07:32:10 am
LOL...FTFM...


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 25, 2015, 10:01:55 am
Hey, what a man does with his headers is his own bidnez.  Who are we to judge?

Saw a set of '12-'15 headers - brand new take-off from a 1-mile bike - on ebay, so I grabbed it... just so I have the option of returning to stock.  Hank, I agree with what you were saying about the smaller ID on the '06-'07, but I'm not sure I want to put a cat on my bike.  I just know the beautifully made and free flowing Akra headers are going to waste for my purposes.  Still, swapping headers will take labor I'm getting increasingly lazy to spend the older I get.  We'll see how things go.

I fired up the bike last night with the single R77.  I could swear it sounded quieter than with 2 slip-on's.  I like twin exhaust on my RSVR and SV1000S, especially since they were nice Italian chrome (aka carbon fiber), but I dig the looks of the single on this bike... maybe just because it's different.

Adding my Givi V46, however, kinda ruined the lines.  I need my top box, so I'll live with it.  It should balance out better with the V35's added on, as I have seen pics of ZX14 set up similarly.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 25, 2015, 10:34:13 am
Hank, a good friend of mine rides a 'Bird and we've swapped bikes from time to time.  I like the XX a lot and wish Honda would have another go at it... among a whole host of bikes I wish Honda would revive.  That sort of composed gentleman's sportbike with a smooth powerful engine is exactly what I'm after with the ZX14R.  I like a good bit more than enough power, but anything north of 125HP and 80 lbs-ft is good in my book.  I would be fine with the Ninja 1000 if it doesn't feel "budget" and viby.  I'm more attracted to ZX14R's refinement and polished composure than its 190 RWHP.  I get my kicks more in lateral acceleration anyway.   Setting up for a turn, carrying momentum through, then powering out of it is much more rewarding to me than simply twisting the grip in a straight line.  If I'm gonna spend any real money on the ZX, it'll be for suspension bits.  The rear shock has already rubbed me to wrong way, putting up a fight with the preload adjust.  ;)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HanksXXX on August 25, 2015, 10:53:02 am

 Hank, I agree with what you were saying about the smaller ID on the '06-'07, but I'm not sure I want to put a cat on my bike.

Again, there is no catalytic converter in the factory 2006-2007 front section or header.
Kaw added the cat in the 2008 header and maintained it through 2011.
That's why I specified 2006-2007... ;)

My turbocharged Blackbird was my favorite bike, and that's out of hundreds.
The stock BB, while a great bike, just didn't stir my soul.
I like to think the ZX-14 is what the BB could have evolved into if Honda kept going with the model.
The damned ZX14 is just such a great bike in so many respects...I can almost live with it stock...
but I just love to tinker...I had one of my turbo Bandits, along with a big displacement NA Bandits, apart all over my garage and I said to the wife all this shit laying around and nothing to ride. She suggested I go buy something and not touch it. Not wanting to piss her off, I did.
It became my Turbocharged Blackbird, built after I got one of my other bikes back together... :)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 25, 2015, 11:32:30 am
Ahh... I re-read you post, and yes, you are right.  Personally, I have no problem with that mod - for what I want out of it - but it might be tough to explain to a potential buyer, when it comes time to sell the 14R.  Stock or Akra OTOH needs no explanation.  :)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HanksXXX on August 25, 2015, 12:14:53 pm
Your problem lies with the centerstand.
I don't know if the Akro single muffler conversion will clear it.
The r model head pipe will work but it didn't look like the mid pipes could easily be made to work so you're looking for slip ons designed for use with the centerstand.
The 06-07 head pipe with the mid pipes cut off the mufflers can be made to work...
Like I said...trial and error and I've done both...lol


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 25, 2015, 03:26:24 pm
Dunno for sure.  The center stand kit I just ordered 99994-0343 is supposedly specific to the '12-'15 14R, although the individual parts - including the stand itself - are mostly identical to the older CS kit.  The only difference is a bracket for what looks like relocating the key switch.  Not sure why that's necessary.  We'll see.  The Akra headers are slip-on compatible with either OEM or after market dual exhaust aft sections (like my Yoshi R77 dual SO's).  My guess is that the CS will clear the headers.  Again, we'll see.  I have the stock headers coming just in case.  I do know the CS will hit the Yoshi left side pipe.  Other 14R owners have confirmed this and had to bend the CS stand to fit.  I'd rather skip all that, which is why I deleted the left side pipe.

I will also have to fashion some kind of CS stop kit, as the Yoshi pipe does not have provisions for this (shame on them).  The Brock's $35 CS stop kit looks like just a piece of steel plate bolted to where the CS spring perch plate goes.  I'm trial fit first and figure out which way to go.  For me, a sport touring bike needs a CS.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on August 28, 2015, 08:11:57 pm

Dunno for sure.  The center stand kit I just ordered 99994-0343 is supposedly specific to the '12-'15 14R, although the individual parts - including the stand itself - are mostly identical to the older CS kit.  The only difference is a bracket for what looks like relocating the key switch.  Not sure why that's necessary.  We'll see.  The Akra headers are slip-on compatible with either OEM or after market dual exhaust aft sections (like my Yoshi R77 dual SO's).  My guess is that the CS will clear the headers.  Again, we'll see.  I have the stock headers coming just in case.  I do know the CS will hit the Yoshi left side pipe.  Other 14R owners have confirmed this and had to bend the CS stand to fit.  I'd rather skip all that, which is why I deleted the left side pipe.

I will also have to fashion some kind of CS stop kit, as the Yoshi pipe does not have provisions for this (shame on them).  The Brock's $35 CS stop kit looks like just a piece of steel plate bolted to where the CS spring perch plate goes.  I'm trial fit first and figure out which way to go.  For me, a sport touring bike needs a CS.


As I posted above, that is what I did for free. I had some 3/4" strap laying around the garage. Two drilled holes and BINGO.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on August 28, 2015, 08:16:15 pm
Not to pat myself on the back or anything but the new Motorcyclist magazine that I just got out of the mail has an excellent article on exhaust systems. They say what I said above. I just had to write that!!!!!!!

 :bigok:



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on August 29, 2015, 10:19:45 am
Volf, check to see if that ECU has been flashed. It most likely was if he went through the trouble of doing the exhaust. Makes a big difference.

Also, I can't help but notice the loss of usable power between 3 and 4K on that Akro.  I spend a lot of time in there when I don't feel like scaring myself.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 29, 2015, 12:48:16 pm
The ECU appears to be stock.  there are no markings of any kind on it, which I would expect to see a sticker of some kind if it's done by Guhl or other commercial outfits.  Only thing might be PO used something like Woolich Racing flash interface.  In any case, I'm gonna play it by ear - or rather, butt dyno - and see.  I just test rode it with the left side plugged.  If there was any power loss or fueling issues, I sure as heck could not feel it.  Next I'll try the longer TRS can and check.

Here's my "Stage 1" sport touring package:

With the Givi V46 is the way I'll ride 95% of the time.  I'll add the SW Motech V35 racks later... no hurry.  The top rack does necessitate switching to no-cowl set, so on went the gen1 seat.  Will ride on it a while to see.  CS stand stop turns out to be easy.  I just added an aluminum bracket and use a couple of zip ties as "bump stop".
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/Volfy17/ZX14R/K7__3894_zpsmp5pgyuy.jpg)

Left side pipe plug is evident here.  Way easier to clean/lube chain, and no clearance issue with center stand.  Weight savings is not much, as the Yoshi CF can and pipe are very light weight, but it does help to offset the added CS.
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/Volfy17/ZX14R/K7__3897_zpsqhrsdmhf.jpg)

My new office:  :)  On my ride home, the GRP stabilizer was set to 17or 18 out of 20.  No wonder it felt a bit sluggish on turn in.  Dialed it down, and boy, this whale can turn!
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/Volfy17/ZX14R/K7__3896_zpsddqggb2z.jpg)

PO added a lot of goodies already.  I have to have a rear hugger though.  Bestem's integrated CF hugger/chainguard is nice.
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/Volfy17/ZX14R/K7__3899_zpsq53pocy5.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 29, 2015, 01:02:54 pm
Next up... 50w 4300k HID conversion on low beam.  CF front fender extender.  And that's it.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on August 29, 2015, 01:20:35 pm
So now that you've got it turning well, how does it flick into a corner compared to your VFR?

One thing I do miss about my Blackbird is the way I could slam that thing down into the corners.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 29, 2015, 05:34:43 pm
Just came back from a longer ride, where I could hit some half way decent roads (by flat swamp land standards).  So far, my feelings are still mixed.  IF it is a single corner, the 14R tips in quickly, holds the line well and stays fairly neutral through the corner, and almost perfect fueling makes it a joy to power out.  The Dunlop Q3's gave excellent grip and road feel, and the 190/55 rear no doubt contributed to the eagerness to tip in.  However... through tight switchbacks, the 14R takes quite some effort to hoist it from side to side.  VFR1200 in that same scenario would flick like I'm on skis.  I don't know if it is mass centralization or higher CG, or frame geometry, etc.  Whatever magic dust Honda sprinkled over the VFR1200 cloaks its weight whenever it's scooting at speed.  OTOH, ZX14R has a tough time hiding its mass.

Power-wise, good god this thing is a beast!  I know why insurance co's all want a bucket of cash to underwrite this rocket.  Takes some serious will power to keep my license riding this jail bait.  That said, I stand by what I've always said about the typically inline 4 with 180deg crank... it just doesn't have that tractable feel.  With a good V-twin, V4 or triple, I swear I could feel every power pulse pushing that rear tire rubber against the tarmac and propelling the bike forward.  With an I4, I feel the effect of the brutal acceleration the engine produces, but that direct neural connection from right hand to the road just isn't there.

Another big plus of the 14R is... fueling.  Even more than the beastly power, the smooth fueling makes for very easy ON/OFF throttle transitions.  I can match rev downshift all the way down to first gear coming to a stop sign, and then ease in throttle for a velvety smooth takeoff.  Heck, I can pop the loud handle any time, and the bike just switches on the power with zero fuss.   I got so used to taming VFR1200's low speed bucking bronco, I actually do a great job at masking over its less than perfect low RPM fueling.  But matching 14R's ON/OFF throttle smoothness is darn near impossible.

I have yet to come across a perfect bike, and the 14R is no different.  There are some things it absolutely excels above all others, but it does also have some less than stellar qualities.  Dunno what Rogers and Ebert would say, but I give it a  :thumbsup:.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: HanksXXX on August 29, 2015, 08:39:50 pm
You could try raising the fork legs 10mm's or so which might help side to side transitions.
I'm not familiar with Dunlop Q3's but possibly a tire change would help.
Does it feel any different to you with a small fuel load compared to full?



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on August 30, 2015, 10:05:54 am
Honda is somehow able to keep their rotating mass inside the engine almost invisible. Their 1200 is perhaps the most impressive engine you can buy as far as having minimal effect on handling. You wouldn't think it could make that much of a difference but that V4 is so narrow and compact it flicks around even better than their "super-lame and needs to die" 800 VTEC.

Have you ridden an ST1300? Now that's what I call mass centralization, the direction of the crank and magic dust lets that bike turn like a 750 it seems at times.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 31, 2015, 10:35:57 am
Hank, my track bunny has Q2's and I've had Q3 on another bike.  Great sportbike and level 1 track day tire that's hard to beat.  Bit of a waste for ST duty but I'm glad PO put them on.  Raising the forks (steeper rake and less trail) will help quicken the initial tip-in, but I'm not sure that's the problem.  I'm still getting to know the bike, and I'd rather not make geometry changes right off the bat.  I'd like to keep the stability it currently has.  Will ride it as is and play with little things like tire pressure and suspension setting first.

At the end of the day, it handles quite well for a open-class sportbike.  I prefer the ZX14R's handling to the Busa I test rode some time ago, but I do get the sense that the chassis dynamics of these two bikes were designed to slightly different priorities than, say, the VFR1200/K1300S pair.

SB, never did sample an ST1300, but I have read and heard about how it handles.  But I can tell you the Trophy SE feels livelier than the C14 I had, even though they are probably within 30 lbs of each other.  These are the kind of things that you really need to experience first hand to know.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 31, 2015, 10:47:41 am

...that V4 is so narrow and compact it flicks around even better than their "super-lame and needs to die" 800 VTEC.

 :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on August 31, 2015, 05:58:46 pm
  :lol:

How loud is that pipe? I want one but cant stand droning on the freeway with a bunch of resonance


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on August 31, 2015, 08:38:13 pm
The dual R77 slip-ons were pretty boomy.  I could hear them even with ear plugs on.  If I were to keep them that way, I would seriously consider getting the low-volume inserts.  The single R77, curiously, boomed noticeably less.  I don't know if the dB sound pressure level is actually lower, but the perceived noise levels was definitely less.

I just swapped in the TRS can, for no other reason than I happen to have it.  I am betting the longer can will make it even quieter.  Have not ridden it yet.  There was a time when I love big exhaust noise.  Not any more.

Blue is Best, my latest issue of Motorcyclist just arrived, and I read the article you referred to.  There wasn't anything in it that a lot of us don't already know.  As mentioned, exhaust tuning is done for a variety of reasons: HP, torque, engine response, emissions, weigh loss, sound, and noise level, etc.  And it's also an exercise in compromises, as you try to optimize the area important to you, and hopefully not hurt other aspects too badly.

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/Volfy17/ZX14R/IMG_0993c_zpsyzeyaon7.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on September 02, 2015, 01:46:09 pm
I discovered something interesting today, I seems my Murphs lowering pegs seem to allow my legs to drop down into some really hot engine heat.  Raising the balls of my feet up make me wonder if the stock foot position is where they intended your feet to be for heat management. Amazing if that's why I consider mine so hot.  

BTW Volf, that thing is decked out I'm guessing he lost his ass on the modifications and you got a hell of a well set-up bike.   If you don't like that ZG ST, I found the Laminar lip to work much better.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on September 02, 2015, 03:27:31 pm
Once I get some more riding time, I can tell if that heat is coming the exhaust pipe under foot or flowing from the engine/radiator.  Since now mine is now single side, I'll see of there is a difference left and right.  So far, I'm very impressed with the ZX14R's heat management, even riding in 100+F heat.  The '09 C14 would get hot in the mid/lower fairing and tank area, especially on the right side.  I had to stuff foam block under the fairing to keep it under control.  No need with the ZX.

Yap, I feel bad for the PO taking a big hit on the bike and the mods.  Saved me from the usual farkling up a storm.  Having some leftover parts from my C14 and other bikes help too.  Really liking the C14 gel low seat on the ZX14R.  Just as comfy as I remembered it.

Am I the only ZX14 rider that prefer big old OEM rear fenders?  Thank goodness I had a spare set from the C14... the original fender eliminator eliminator.  :lol:  Keeps the muddy spray off my top box and tail lights.  Plus it gave me room to mount some additional tail/brake lights.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on September 09, 2015, 04:22:47 pm
Silverbird, I've ridden the ZX14R on a couple of nice morning rides over the Labor Day weekend and I'm not feeling a whole lot of heat on either side, exhaust pipe or not.  True they were morning rides and temps are starting to come down some around here, so it never got above maybe 90-92F tops while riding.  Still, I'm impressed with the ZX14's heat management.  Big engines with big HP usually puts out a lot of heat.  That was certainly the case with the C14, but Kawi did a fantastic job.  Maybe they run the fuel mixture rich to keep power up and EGR down, since my 2 taking-it-easy rides drained the tank and netted me barely 35mpg.  Oh well, can't have it all.

I fitted Genmar 1" risers the same time I installed the ZG ST screen.  The reduction in wind pressure to my upper torso is far more significant than the slightly less forward lean.  The net result is actually less comfortable than with stock bars and ZG SR screen.  I think I might put the SR screen back on and see.  Day time max temp is getting down to the low 90's now, so air flow will be back to being welcomed anyway.

In generally, I'm still :thumbsup: about the bike.  I take back what I said about it having stupid power.  This thing has power that makes Harry and Lloyd look smart.  I only wish I could trade some of that for just a bit more handling prowess.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on September 10, 2015, 09:54:00 am
Putting my stock pegs back on seemed to help, I rode all day in 86F heat and it didn't seem as bad as it used to be.

I'm guessing it has a 190/55 on the back? That help but so does lowing the front a few mm.  I'm very happy with the handling and thats even if I've ridden my Hyper the day before.  


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on November 24, 2015, 03:15:33 pm

I'm guessing it has a 190/55 on the back?  


Yap, mine has 190/55 Q3.

BTW, riding this thing is gonna get my license suspended or myself killed.  Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.  :crazy:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on November 26, 2015, 10:20:35 am
Yes, it's a liscence eater for sure.  Even if you are trying to be careful you'll look down and be doing 50 in a 35 at what feels like a walking pace. Makes me wonder if putting pipes on mine would be a good thing.  When it's super quiet it's even worse.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on November 26, 2015, 11:09:54 am
Put the best performing, loudest pipe on your bike. That way you HAVE to putt around at low RPMS to keep from being obnoxious. Your antics will be restricted to getting on the freeway or in the country!

Worked for me.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: NotDeadYet on November 26, 2015, 11:37:09 am

Put the best performing, loudest pipe on your bike. That way you HAVE to putt around at low RPMS to keep from being obnoxious. Your antics will be restricted to getting on the freeway or in the country! Worked for me.


There is some truth and wisdom in Blue's philosophy here.  I tend to keep my rpm's down around town and in residential areas too.  I don't wont to come of as the obnoxious biker either.  On the hiway I wear earplugs and listen to music so I can't hear how loud it is.   Sometimes when I see wildlife near the road I pull in the clutch and twist the throttle to scare them away.  If that doesn't work I get on the nautilus air horn and give them a blast of that.  Sometimes I do both - if the deer and the antelope could talk they would say "did you hear that obnoxious motorcyclist".   :lol:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on December 02, 2015, 11:50:01 am
Well... Darth Vader has left the building.  :(  Chalked it up as another 3-month test ride.  It really is a great hypersport tourer, but with my insurance renewal coming up, I just could not justify the premium on it costing more than my other 3 bikes combined.  It's money down the drain that I won't ever get back and don't get any enjoyment out of.

Got a bunch of take-off farkles if anybody is interested:

1. Yoshimura R-77 dual slip-ons.  Right side link pipe is brand new.
2. Akrapovic headers.
3. SW Motech Alu Rack.
4. Kawi OEM center stand kit (handle and lock relocation parts never installed).
5. Bestem carbon fiber rear hugger.
6. C14 low gel seat (fits ZX14 by swapping a bracket, takes 5mins).
7. OEM ZX14R stock seat with flat ebony (black) cover.
8. Fender Eliminator kit (I believe it's made by Vortex).
9. Zero Gravity Sport Touring screen, dark smoke.
10. Vortex rearsets (same as pictured above but sliver color).
11. Genmar bar risers.

Bike had 2500 miles on it when I traded it in.  A lot of these parts were on the bike just a few hundred miles.  You can see pics of many of these parts on my bike in my previous posts.  Apologies for the shameless plug.  Mods, please let me know if I violated any forum rules.  I just figure fellow ZX14 pilots might be interested.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Dan K on December 02, 2015, 05:35:41 pm
For what did you trade the ZX-14?

 :D


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on December 02, 2015, 09:14:16 pm
Got bit bad by the dirt bike bug... 2015 KTM 250XCF-W  :)

(http://cdn-0.psndealer.com/e2/dealersite/images/mainlandcyclecenter/vp3903313_1_large.jpg)


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on December 05, 2015, 09:59:56 am
I'm selling mine too. As amazing as it is, all I want to do it double the speed limit every single time I get on it.  That's asking for trouble and only a matter of time before something happens that will MAKE me sell it. Oh well I'll lose my ass as well, these are tough bikes to sell. Not a lot of men that think you can use all that power on the street. You can, I assure you. It's just really risky.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on December 05, 2015, 01:24:26 pm
Yeah, the new H2 has taken some of the luster away from the ZX14R, which is no longer their halo bike.  Doesn't make an ounce of difference to me, and but it does affect resale.  Anyhow, because of this, Kawi has/had some heavy incentive money on ZX14R's.  I have seen them advertised for $11k, sometime less but those typically have some fees that pump it back up.  I got a pretty good deal on my '14 ABS, so I didn't take that bad a hit.  Just the fact that I'm saving over $1000 not having to renew the insurance on it helps a lot too.

IMO, there is a huge gap between the 700lbs C14 and the 500lbs Ninja 1000.  If Kawi would just remane the ZX14R to, say...Concours 14R, insurance premium will drop precipitously.  May be restyle a bit more toward sport touring duty with better wind management and put VVT on it, like the C14, I will be tempted to revisit.  Unfortunately, with the litre sportbikes pushing north of 200HP and 185mph, bikes like the ZX14R and Busa are fast becoming an endangered species.  Kawi will probably let it die instead, which is a darn shame.  


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on December 05, 2015, 10:24:34 pm
You may be right but there will always be a place for the big torque monsters. Can't beat cruising at 85 mph at a relaxed pace. Want to pass a line of cars at 65 mph? Just twist the throttle.

Elsewhere I posted about my buddy that just bought a new VFR800 because he just couldn't come to terms with his BMW S1000R. One of the reasons that really bothered him was cruising at 80 mph and 6,000 rpms.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on December 27, 2015, 02:28:36 pm
Volfy, how do you compare the heat management on your VFR to the 14R?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on December 29, 2015, 04:41:50 pm

Volfy, how do you compare the heat management on your VFR to the 14R?

I thought I covered that in a previous thread.  Anyhow, VFR1200 is one of the best at engine heat management.  The only time I feel any engine heat is if I am stopped at a light and there's a tail wind that pushes some of the rejected engine heat back onto my legs.  I believe Honda design it to channel engine heat under the bike, as the rear swingarm gets mighty toasty after riding in hot weather.  Riding it in any ambient temp, including over elevated fwys in afternoon 115F Summer heat, there is no engine heat to be felt.

The ZX14R manages engine heat quite well too, more remarkable given how much heat is pumped out from that big 1441cc inline 4.  Big HP means big heat production.  Afterall, the 4stroke internal combustion engine runs on principles of the Otto Cycle, which is a basically a HEAT PUMP.  Contrast that to the '09 C14, which warmed my thighs and left shin pretty good on a hot day, the big Ninja never once made its big heat signature felt to me.  For that reason, I would rate the ZX14R's heat management slightly above that of the VFR1200.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on March 06, 2016, 05:11:00 pm
Just gave mine away for 8K.  I'm done with buying expensive new bikes.  I've lost my ASS on an FJR, KTM SMT and now this thing.  I thing I might be riding a 919 until gas isn't available anymore.  


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Dan K on March 08, 2016, 04:17:44 pm
I hear you. Of the 7 bikes I've owned since I got back into riding over the last 10 years or so, every one was used or slightly used before finding its way into my garage - that way I never get killed when the make their way OUT of the garage, although I'm pretty set with my current bikes...

- Dan


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on March 09, 2016, 10:41:10 am
I rarely buy brand new either and usually do okay flipping bikes.  From time to time though, I do get hammered too.  The S3R was one.  Didn't do too bad on the ZX14R.  I'm done with the 6month test rides though.  The 2 road bikes I have now suit me the best and will stay for quite a while.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DDFZ1 on June 02, 2016, 06:29:02 pm
I've taken a few trips.  Added 2015 Concours Touring Seat last year.  It is about 1" taller than the ZX14r seat.  The seat surface is grippy and the vinyl stays cool to the touch.  I wonder if the Vinyl is Sunbrella material?  I added 2-1" GenMar risers per side.  But adding the Touring Seat knocked off some of the handlebar rise so now I've ordered Convertibars.  I've been reading about McCruise control system and that may be my next modification.
Getting ready for another ride, changing fluids today.
I thought this thread was about modifying a ZX14 for traveling?


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Dan K on June 02, 2016, 07:49:14 pm
Bike looks good. Sorry for the derailing of the thread!

- Dan


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DDFZ1 on July 11, 2016, 10:59:44 am
The Convertibars is worth the money.  The kit comes with an 8" vertical shaft that I cut to 4" to clear the fairing.   When I added the handlebar that gives me a 5" rise over the original location.
I mounted my collars directly behind the Fork Tubes and nothing touches the tank plastic.
The photo of the toilet paper tubes on the bars shows the difference of the original bar location and a 6" rise-WOW!
I had to re-route all my electrical lines and the clutch hose.  I added a 6" longer brake hose.
My new handlebar location is 5" higher and 4" pullback.  www.cycle-egro.com  I'm riding in a completely different location.
Reminds me of my 1986 Kawasaki Concours.
I'm 5'10" with average length arms and a 32" inseam.
I've turned my Ninja into a true Sports Tourer.
Save your money on GenMar or Heli spacers, get my setup for handlebar conversion.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DDFZ1 on July 11, 2016, 11:05:46 am
Old position with 2-1" GenMar spacers per side compared to Convertibars.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on July 11, 2016, 01:32:37 pm
Aside from the brake and clutch lines, what else did you have to extend?

You should think about grinding down the OEM shield so it doesn't show the ridge and mounting tabs. That's a hell of an idea though.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on July 11, 2016, 01:44:01 pm
Have to go with handlebars!!!!!!! I ordered the LSL top clamp only as I had a couple of handlebars laying around. Then I lengthened the brake side hose only four inches. Local shop charged $25.00 for that job. Lowered the footpegs with Buells and bingo. I'm 5'8" and it was comfortable and didn't take anything away from my peg scrapping days. I also put several 800 + mile days on the ZX14.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Volfy on July 11, 2016, 03:22:43 pm
Never did get to do a long day ride with the 14R, but it felt about as good an "all day tolerable" bike as the VFR1200.  I had just a single set of Genmar risers and it felt about right to me.  For me, the handlebars felt more of a long reach than they are high.  The fuel tank sides offer excellent knee support, which added to high speed cruising comfort.

Speaking of high speed... it seems that the faster I went on the 14R, the more comfortable the bike felt.  That's good - or bad - depending on your POV.  :lol:


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Silverbird on July 11, 2016, 06:05:32 pm
 :lol:



Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DDFZ1 on August 15, 2016, 11:17:19 pm
I've returned from 2800 miles ride to Glacier Park.  The Convertibars are worth buying.  I did have vibration in the throttle grip.  After I returned home, I looked for a heavier Bar End.  I also have a Bandit 1250s that my older Brother (69 yrs old) accompanied me on this trip.  I removed the Bandit's Bar ends and compared them to Convertibars.  Their bolt threads were the same.  I ordered a set from BikeBandit.com ($56).  I removed the metal pieces and bolted them on.  They work great.
I have Arthritis in my hands and installed Johar #JO1102 foam grips.  I'm ready for my next adventure.




Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DDFZ1 on August 15, 2016, 11:29:15 pm
You should think about grinding down the OEM shield so it doesn't show the ridge and mounting tabs. That's a hell of an idea though.

I used the bottom holes to bolt the OEM shield to ZG touring screen.  My next thought is making side wings on each side making the shield wider.  I kill a lot of Bugs on my Arms and Shoulder of my Leather Jacket.  


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DDFZ1 on September 01, 2016, 12:25:16 am
If you install Buell Foot pegs, be sure to replace the long Feeler screws with shorter ones.  Then you will not be dragging your pegs in the corners.


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: Blue is Best on September 01, 2016, 06:09:31 am
On my ZX14 I did replace the stock foot pegs with Buell pegs. But I LIKED dragging the pegs, especially, when going around another bike or car!!!!!!!!!! They didn't/don't know that I was not near cornering limit.

 :D


Title: Re: My ZX14 in Sport Touring Mode
Post by: DDFZ1 on December 13, 2016, 01:03:11 am
I re-routed my Clutch hose, it is plenty long.  I only added a longer Brake hose.  I also re-routed several electrical lines on the throttle side.  I really like my setup.


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