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Title: 2013 Capnord
Post by: staedtler on November 08, 2012, 10:33:24 pm

 :thumbsup:


http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/2013-aprilia-caponord-1200-leak/

(http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Aprilia-Caponord-1200-635x508.jpg)


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Cablebandit on November 09, 2012, 08:33:14 am
No beak?  :headscratch:



That won't sell.   :D

 :couch:


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Rincewind on November 09, 2012, 03:52:50 pm
There are some other pics in this thread (https://www.sport-touring.net/forums/index.php/topic,61058.msg1638660.html#msg1638660) from the dealer show in March.  

Looks like fun to me!  Though my preference would be a 19" front wheel and skinnier rear wheel on such a bike.  Clearly it is aimed squarely at Ducati.  


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on November 09, 2012, 10:49:15 pm
I'm glad to see it with 17" wheels.  The market for boxy-pannier, tall skinny spoked wheeled dirt-eaters is pretty well sewn up between BMW, KTM, Yamaha, Suzuki, Triumph, Moto Guzzi and Honda.  You ADV types are well served already.  Over-served, actually.

This is a bike that turns the fun (and R&D paid-for) 'Duro platform into something a bit more practical, with a broader appeal, while hopefully keeping a good bit of the fun that honking big twin provides.  I simply think of it as the ST version of the Dorsoduro, and don't try to force-fit it into the ADV category.  Because it's not.  It's to the Dorsoduro what the KTM SM-T is to the SM, albeit even less motard-y.

EDIT: Can't believe I forgot about the Stelvio.  They don't want to poach their own sales there either, so keeping it with real wheels and tires helps make it a distinct choice between it and the Stelvio when both are likely to be sitting on the same showroom floor.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Reddog* on November 10, 2012, 12:22:52 pm

Looks like fun to me!  Though my preference would be a 19" front wheel and skinnier rear wheel on such a bike.  Clearly it is aimed squarely at Ducati.  


Same thoughts here.
Had hoped it would be a good replacement for my old Capo.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: NoGear on November 10, 2012, 12:30:32 pm
Just when I had narrowed my list down to either a new FJR or a Multistrada I see this.   I love my Aprilia Falco SL1000.   Now I'm going to have to put this on the list to consider to buy next year.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: falconati on November 10, 2012, 09:26:10 pm
Think they'll do another Futura?


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on November 11, 2012, 01:32:53 am

Think they'll do another Futura?


Doubtful.  The middle-weight ST market is pretty much dead, and I seriously doubt you'll see Aprilia make a 600+ pound bike to fit into the heavy ST/tourer category which still has a bit of life left in it and some reasonable chance of sales success.  And they've got the Norge to compete in that market.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: falconati on November 11, 2012, 04:22:59 pm
True, but I also don't think folks predicted Triumph to make the Tiger 800.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: caddydaddy on November 11, 2012, 04:47:53 pm

True, but I also don't think folks predicted Triumph to make the Tiger 800.


Triumph did kill the Sprint ST and GT.  No one knows if they'll have a true ST bike again.  It's all about the Adventure bikes now!


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: SummerLove on November 11, 2012, 08:59:59 pm

Think they'll do another Futura?

This is pretty much a tall Futura.
That's the MTS 1200, Adventure 1190 and possibly the Tiger Sport so many spy photos floating around are. Tall sport touring bikes.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Calabrese on November 12, 2012, 02:02:17 am

Think they'll do another Futura?
The V4 is not just for racing, you will see the tuono platform mature into an ST rig, how much easier can it get for Aprilia, just add panniers a revised fairing and taller handlebars.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: falconati on November 12, 2012, 08:27:55 am
Where's my cruise control, mega-charging system, heated everything and adaptive HID headlamps?  :D


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: staedtler on November 12, 2012, 10:11:30 pm


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: rdbandkab on November 13, 2012, 08:58:38 am
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Think they'll do another Futura?


I have a Flame Red Futura...and after seeing a Norge in this color, I may have found my next "Futura".   :inlove:

Ok...back to the Capo..


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: BlueRidgeKat on January 21, 2013, 06:26:01 am
It looks pretty comfy...... I'll take a white one. That is if they have the fuel mapping worked out.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Royal Tiger on January 21, 2013, 07:18:17 pm



I have a Flame Red Futura...and after seeing a Norge in this color, I may have found my next "Futura".   :inlove:

Ok...back to the Capo..


That Norge looks awesome!


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: bubba zanetti on January 21, 2013, 07:22:54 pm



I have a Flame Red Futura...and after seeing a Norge in this color, I may have found my next "Futura".   :inlove:

Ok...back to the Capo..


Norge is a pretty bike ... but that Futura is something else !  :thumbsup:

The new Caponard is really interesting. Maybe in 3 years it will be my new to me !?


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Hambonee on January 22, 2013, 12:44:24 pm



Norge is a pretty bike ... but that Futura is something else !  :thumbsup:

The new Caponard is really interesting. Maybe in 3 years it will be my new to me !?


I need to test drive a 4 value per cylinder Norge..

From my understanding totally changes the bike...

Either way nice to see a bike to challange the Multi...


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on January 22, 2013, 07:13:13 pm
Yeah, I expect the new Capo and the new KTM 1190 Adventure (non-R) to give the MTS1200 a good run for the money.  


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: zigzag on January 24, 2013, 11:43:08 am
Never understood this style (Multistrada included) until I hit 45. Now I'm all over it. My next bike. Sadly reports are 2014 Q1 release.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: R Doug on January 24, 2013, 12:18:56 pm
I cannot get comfortable on those cup like seats.  The Multi I test rode (as lovely as it is) was so uncomfortable for me.  The first thing I did when I picked up the 990 Adventure was to replace the cup like stock seat with a Renazco which was more flat and spacious.  

For a few more lbs., I'll keep my current ST rig which can go as many places off paved roads as this 'Priller.  That said, I'm glad to see more diversity in the "adventure touring" segment.  

Now, when the hell is someone going to put out a proper 450-650cc thumper adventure like the old 640 Adventure or the current Yamaha Tenere!?!?   :inlove:   I'd be all over one of those.  


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: staedtler on March 07, 2013, 08:39:40 pm
 :thumbsup: i'd hit that





(http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=215832&d=1362710248)
(http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=215833&d=1362710263)


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: mugwump58 on March 07, 2013, 09:19:38 pm
Hmmm just looked on Aprilia USA and I don't see it.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 07, 2013, 09:44:45 pm
It comes in red!  RED!  That color works really well on the bike, much better than the white and black prototypes that were on the show circuit.  It looks like they're dealing with the "too big looking" side fairing with strategic stripes to break the visual mass up, though black stripes on the red bike may have worked better than the white.

As for not seeing it on the website, it's not for sale anywhere in the world yet, hasn't even had a press event other than those static demo bikes at ECMIA last year.  It might hit the showrooms this year sometime, and probably in Europe several months before North America.

Oh, and that "ADD"?  Essentially Aprilia's branding of the same Sachs Skyhook system found on the new Multistrada and GS.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: falconati on March 08, 2013, 09:47:18 am
ADD is a much better marketing term for the likes of us  :bigok:


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 09, 2013, 09:55:46 pm
Brochure (in Italian):

http://caponord.aprilia.com/downloads/aprilia-caponord-1200_brochure.pdf

Takeaway...about 5HP less than the Dursoduro 1200, with the same torque max but hitting peak 400 RPM sooner.  

24 liter tank

Looks like ADD is an option (then again APRC was an option on the new Tuono, but all the North American bikes came with it).

Also looks like the panniers are optional (and that they add 30 pounds, racks and all).  

Finally, it has a 690W alternator, which is more than adequate, considering the buyers of this bike probably won't be packing all the farkles the ADV types like to strap on.  

You know, the typical heated seat, heated grips, heated pegs, heated electric screen, heated winch, heated aux lights, heated aux lights for the aux lights, heated aux/aux/aux/aux lights, heated blinkers, heated GPS, heated backup GPS, heated Spot, heated panniers, heated pannier racks, heated top box, heated grab rails, heated tool tube, heated socks, heated six man tent, heated pants, heated vest, heated helmet, heated visor, heated hyperbole).

Luckily, that 17" front wheel and low-mount exhaust may have saved it from that sort of fate.  :)


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Oxman on March 10, 2013, 11:08:24 am
hmmm the Caponord  looks sweet  :inlove: ...Any idea on when its to show its face here in the great white north ?


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 10, 2013, 06:13:45 pm
More info, the English site is now live:

http://caponord.aprilia.com/en/versions.html

Three colors (Red, White, Gray) and two models.  The base model comes with ABS, ATC, RBW, and the Travel Pack model adds ADD, cruise, panniers, and center stand.

Pretty good list of launch accessories (for a ROAD bike), including a quick-release top box (looks to be in the 30L range) a tank bag that clips onto the existing plastic tank cover, tail bag, heated grips, gel saddles (with low option), ASV/Pazzo style CNC levers, factory tail tidy, bling mirrors, CF fender, titanium slip-on, and more.

I think I'll have the Rosso with Travel Pack, please.  With grips, box, tank bag, tail bag, gel seat, levers, slip-on and CF fender.

(http://caponord.aprilia.com/img/large/gallery_29.jpg)

(http://caponord.aprilia.com/img/large/gallery_23.jpg)

(http://caponord.aprilia.com/img/large/gallery_20.jpg)


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: SalsaShark on March 10, 2013, 07:18:23 pm
The want is strong with this one...


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 13, 2013, 04:08:34 pm
MCN has their (usual) ultra-brief first ride teaser up:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/First-rides-tests/2013/March/mar1313-aprilia-caponord-first-ride/

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"The ride is seriously good – it glides over lumps and imperfections. The Traction control is working overtime but is coping well and there's a pleasing bark from the V-twin which has been detuned to 125bhp – or the same as BMW's new GS – for this role."


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"It's pretty good value too. UK prices have been announced as £10,599 for the base model and a little over £12K for the fully-specced version, which, considering the tech, is keen indeed. For example, it's suspension is more sophisticated than Ducati's Multistrada yet the bike is a lot cheaper, too."


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: mugwump58 on March 13, 2013, 06:48:52 pm
Without taking all kinds of other factors into account, loaded $18K. On the up side MCN has an F 800GT for testing.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 13, 2013, 07:03:21 pm
I'm pretty sure the high-spec version will come in under $17k in the US.  

Don't forget that MCN GBP price quote is also with 20% UK VAT included, and as we all know, even after you subtract the VAT we almost always get bikes cheaper here than a straight exchange rate conversion would suggest.

And BMW is still flogging that buzzy, 8-year old F800 platform?  Should we care?


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 15, 2013, 05:49:17 pm
Another brief first ride report:

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This week I was in Sardinia for the press launch of the all new Aprilia Caponord 1200 and WOW they have produced a stunner!

Aprilia have slotted a 1200cc V twin engine into a new lightweight frame and developed a host of sophisticated electronics; ride by wire system with three engine maps; switchable two channel ABS; traction control (ATC) with three user settings; Aprilia Dynamic Damping (ADD) with 4 predefined spring preload positions and a very nifty automatic setting where the bike works out the loading and sets the damping accordingly.

There's also a very effective cruise control (ACC) which holds the desired speed up or down hill without having to adjust the throttle.

A height adjustable windshield for better wind protection. Even the exhaust silencer is height adjustable to give more ground clearance when the styled panniers have been removed and you fancy a back road scratching session!

A full review will be in the next issue of Adventure Bike Rider magazine out at the end of April don't miss it!


http://www.adventurebikerider.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/857-aprilia-launch-all-new-caponord-1200.html


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 18, 2013, 02:51:37 pm
Some footage of a journo on the road with one.



The guy is a more aggressive with his body positioning than I'd be in denim, that's for sure.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 19, 2013, 02:49:53 am
Moar video!

Raw footage from Tor Sagem (without his normal cheesy titles or bad music).



Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 19, 2013, 04:58:11 pm
One more blast of foreign language reviews that Google translate fairly well.  Expect the English ones to start appearing the the coming week:

From Spain:
http://motos.coches.net/noticias/aprilia/caponord/1200/ (http://motos.coches.net/noticias/aprilia/caponord/1200/)

Another Italian:
http://www.red-live.it/test/test-moto/prova-aprilia-caponord-1200/ (http://www.red-live.it/test/test-moto/prova-aprilia-caponord-1200/)

A bit of French (actually more than a bit, this is a comprehensive and sometimes critical, dense 6-page look at the bike):
http://www.moto-net.com/actualites-motos-5224-Essais-et-Tests-TEST-Essai-Caponord-1200-:-le-trail-sportif-selon-Aprilia.html (http://www.moto-net.com/actualites-motos-5224-Essais-et-Tests-TEST-Essai-Caponord-1200-:-le-trail-sportif-selon-Aprilia.html)

And another French report:
http://www.lerepairedesmotards.com/essais/motos/aprilia-caponord-1200.php (http://www.lerepairedesmotards.com/essais/motos/aprilia-caponord-1200.php)

And this select quote from a Greek site (http://"http://www.mototriti.gr/data/news/preview_news/95468.asp") (bolding mine):
Quote
And when we got on the bike and started the turns (not told to finish), the semi-active suspension ADD (Aprilia Dynamic Damping) at once transformed the Caponord, from Sport-Touring in ... SUPERBIKE-Touring ! No exaggeration. Only events. semi-active suspension works incredibly well, making it currently the most impressive technology in the field, with the most readily discernible effects on the behavior of a motorcycle!


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 19, 2013, 06:49:51 pm
Sick of me yet?

No?  Good. 

Here's an edited version from Tor Sagem (complete with music and bad titles), with some snippets from the video a couple posts back combined with fresh footage, along with his thoughts on the bike (at 4:00).  Also includes some quotes from Aprilia engineers at the press briefing, notably talking about Skyhook ("I don't want to tell you about miracles, because this is not the truth."), and even a little bit of stand-up-off-pavement riding at 8:48 (why, I don't know, but it's there).



Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Oxman on March 19, 2013, 09:38:33 pm
Nice looking bike but it sounds like its hard parts like the tarmac on the tight corners ..


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 19, 2013, 10:24:17 pm

Nice looking bike but it sounds like its hard parts like the tarmac on the tight corners ..


Yeah, watched the video a few times, thinking it was the centre stand, a perennial Piaggio problem.  It's not, it's the hero blobs on the pegs touching down, and that's dead simple to sort.  

Also notice that Tor was riding all Teutonic style, straight up and down.  So you can remove the blobs, or hang a shoulder/cheek/knee off the bike a bit so you don't need as much lean angle.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Hambonee on March 20, 2013, 09:35:33 am
Damn..I like this bike more and more.....

Need to move to a taller bike with less bend on the knees..wonder what the ergos are like..they look good...

Either way it would keep my business with Moto International so like that :) Something to ponder in the future..only thing that scares me is maintenance cost never having owned that brand. Guzzi is generally pretty dang cheap..

edit..

dang...just did a comparison vs my Norge and I would loose 11 degrees in knee bend and all the forward lean. Much better for me..time to start saving!!! :lol:


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 20, 2013, 01:46:41 pm
Heh, yeah, you won't be adjusting valves with a screwdriver and hammer like the Guzzi.  But that V90 has so far proven fairly reliable.  Problem is, it's only been used in the Dorsoduro, a bike people don't rack up a lot of long miles on (though they do rack up HARD miles).  So no real indication of how often the valves go out of spec, TB's need balanced, long-term oil consumption, etc.  That said, that 1200cc motor is seriously under-stressed at 125-130 HP.

Reviews are starting to show up in English:

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When I first saw the Caponord at the EICMA show, I quickly dismissed it as a smart, full-dress evolution of the Aprilia Dorsoduro, a bike conceived to snatch a slice of the growing adventure-touring pie from the iconic BMW R1200GS. However, after riding the Aprilia Caponord 1200 on some secluded and twisty roads on Sardinia, I must apologize to the Aprilia technical team: The new Caponord is actually a smartly conceived and very efficient street-biased adventure-tourer that only looks inspired by the Dorsoduro when seen from afar.


http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/03/20/2014-aprilia-caponord-1200-first-ride/


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 25, 2013, 07:03:15 pm
Tor Sagen's full review is out:

http://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2013-aprilia-caponord-1200-review/

This bit is interesting:
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The 2013 Aprilia Caponord 1200 is truly a technologically tour de force. In the high tech area, Aprilia has even managed to bang the Ducati Multistrada down into the ground for now.



Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: SalsaShark on March 25, 2013, 07:19:24 pm
You're killin me 'smalls!

The more I read/see about this bike, the more excited I get to kick one around in person... Too bad every U.S. dealer I've spoken to doesn't know when they'll show up.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 25, 2013, 08:20:46 pm
Bikes are already for sale in Italy, rolling out to the rest of Europe and Australia, and even India in a few weeks.  Sadly, according to Ed at AF1, last report was Q1 2014 for North America.  

So nine months to a year, which is par for the course for Piaggio these days, if you recall how long we had to wait for the RSV4, Tuono V4, Stelvio NTX, etc after the rest of the world got them.  I blame the EPA and especially CARB for most of that delay myself.

Good news is, that lets the rest of the world work out the kinks first.  And there's always a chance it'll be out sooner, though I'm not holding my breath.



Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 25, 2013, 10:12:24 pm
Here's a dyno run of one of the first retail units in the wild in Italy.  Nice soundtrack, though short.



113hp and 78 ft/lbs at the rear wheel pretty much matches 125 crank hp/85 ft lbs torque  numbers Aprilia claims.

EDIT:  Interesting to watch what the suspension is doing when it the motor loads and unloads it.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Hambonee on March 26, 2013, 12:41:29 pm

Here's a dyno run of one of the first retail units in the wild in Italy.  Nice soundtrack, though short.



113hp and 78 ft/lbs at the rear wheel pretty much matches 125 crank hp/85 ft lbs torque  numbers Aprilia claims.

EDIT:  Interesting to watch what the suspension is doing when it the motor loads and unloads it.


 :inlove:

wow...deep and throaty...nice...



Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 26, 2013, 05:48:45 pm
Motorcycle Daily's first ride impressions are up:

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“Balanced” is a good word to describe the Caponord 1200.  It is not the lightest or most athletic member of the category, but it combines competent handling with comfort and wind protection suitable for long distances with both a passenger and luggage aboard...



http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/03/md-first-ride-2014-aprilia-caponord-1200/


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Hickey on March 27, 2013, 07:44:50 am
That bike has some nice equipment and options. It is good looking too. I like it. Top of the list to me for sporty, road focused adventure tourers.

What a pity it is an Aprilia, given the lack of dealer support for those of us who aren't near the few famously competent dealers for the brand in North America.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Hickey on March 29, 2013, 08:30:50 am
If I'm reading this right and if the author is correct, then the new Caponord isn't all that heavy.

"The Caponord 1200s we tested were fitted with the Travel Pack, which includes 7.7-gallon panniers, a centerstand and extra electronics (ADD cabling alone weighs 2.2 lbs). Its dry weight is claimed to be 503 lbs, which is 31 lbs more than the standard model."  http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/aprilia/2013-aprilia-caponord-1200-review-91546.html

The dry weight of 503 includes the Travel Pack options of luggage, etc. So the true wet weight of one set up for sport touring might end up around 550. Which is actually lighter than some of the other members of that class like the Explorer and Tenere.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Hambonee on March 29, 2013, 10:15:21 am

That bike has some nice equipment and options. It is good looking too. I like it. Top of the list to me for sporty, road focused adventure tourers.

What a pity it is an Aprilia, given the lack of dealer support for those of us who aren't near the few famously competent dealers for the brand in North America.


yeah :(

I'm lucky enough to have MI about 15 minutes down the road. The other bike I was looking at was the KTM SMT. That, however, has a smaller dealership network it seems if that is even possible.

n the bright side Dave from MI thinks the 17K estimated price tag is a bit inflated. :D


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: expatbrit on March 29, 2013, 10:25:09 am



yeah :(

I'm lucky enough to have MI about 15 minutes down the road. The other bike I was looking at was the KTM SMT. That, however, has a smaller dealership network it seems if that is even possible.

n the bright side Dave from MI thinks the 17K estimated price tag is a bit inflated. :D


Wow. With all the electronics, I was sure this would be squarely in MTS1200S territory, price-wise. Interesting.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Hambonee on March 29, 2013, 11:00:11 am



Wow. With all the electronics, I was sure this would be squarely in MTS1200S territory, price-wise. Interesting.


Totally agree..

But hey, if Dave is right, bonus for the riders! :thumbsup:


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Hickey on March 29, 2013, 12:15:40 pm


I'm lucky enough to have MI about 15 minutes down the road. The other bike I was looking at was the KTM SMT. That, however, has a smaller dealership network it seems if that is even possible.



I've got the opposite issue. I have a good KTM dealer nearby but no Aprilia dealers in the whole state and questionable dealers in adjacent states. Ironically the local Vespa dealer tried to carry Aprilia too, but that didn't work out. Aprilia really screwed their dealer network up in the last few years.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 29, 2013, 01:01:34 pm

If I'm reading this right and if the author is correct, then the new Caponord isn't all that heavy.

"The Caponord 1200s we tested were fitted with the Travel Pack, which includes 7.7-gallon panniers, a centerstand and extra electronics (ADD cabling alone weighs 2.2 lbs). Its dry weight is claimed to be 503 lbs, which is 31 lbs more than the standard model."  http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/aprilia/2013-aprilia-caponord-1200-review-91546.html (http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/aprilia/2013-aprilia-caponord-1200-review-91546.html)

The dry weight of 503 includes the Travel Pack options of luggage, etc. So the true wet weight of one set up for sport touring might end up around 550. Which is actually lighter than some of the other members of that class like the Explorer and Tenere.


It's 503 dry for the standard, 538 dry for the Travel Pack.  With a full 24 liter tank, oil and battery, it's going to be close to 570.  Which is still lighter than the Explorer or Tenere, but keep in mind this bike is NOT in that class, at all.  It's a road bike with no off-road pretensions; it doesn't come with boxy panniers, tall skinny tires, or the near-mandatory shaft drive either.  Simply put (and thank god) it's not an ADV bike.

It's competing with the Multistrada 1200 on the high end, Tiger Sport 1050 and Versys 1000 on the low end.  The base 1190 Adventure, and to a lesser extent the new GS could also be added to the list, for potential buyers of those that know they're not really going offroad and can live with the loss of macho Dakar image.

To put that 570ish pound wet weight in perspective, a wet Sprint ST 1050 ABS with panniers weighed that much, as did the Futura, the VFR800 with panniers, the Ducati ST series, the Tiger 1050 ABS with panniers, etc.  But this bike has more torque than any of them, more power than most, a more advanced suspension, and a lot more safety aids.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Hickey on March 29, 2013, 03:19:24 pm
Ah, so the journalist got the weights wrong. Bummer.

I'm not an off road rider at all, so I'm probably in their target demographic. I like the newest Tiger quite a bit, but it won't be coming Stateside. I don't much like the styling of the Multistrada and its beak. The KTM is tolerable looking and light and I've got a good dealer nearby. The new Capo looks nice and is really well equipped but heavyish, to me, given its height.

I dunno. I'll stay tuned, I guess.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 29, 2013, 06:27:29 pm
Yeah, if you're of a body type that actually fits on a tiny Street Triple and doesn't look silly, the Caponord may well be a bit on the large side for you.  

But then again, so would the Tiger Sport, which is just as heavy with panniers and a full tank.  For that matter, the Multistrada with DSS and panniers is only about 10-20 pounds lighter at best  (Ducati official figures are very misleading, bordering on dishonest,  the dry weight they give is sans pannier mounts, sans ABS, sans DSS, etc, and any wet weight figure isn't with a full tank of fuel).  

The new KTM 1190 is right about the same weight as the Multi without panniers too, but it's also sporting a "skinny" 170 rear tire and a 19" front, both of which are spoked, which pretty much rules it out from being anything I'd ever want to own.



Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: bubba zanetti on March 29, 2013, 07:09:31 pm
Placed your order yet Croak?  I have forwarded your post to Aprilia as some of the best advertising they could buy.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on March 29, 2013, 08:09:58 pm
Heh, you should see me on ADVRider talking about it.  Some epic posts in the "Beasts" section.  :)

The gnarly off-road lovers over there hate it (and the Multistrada, for that matter).



Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Hickey on March 29, 2013, 08:16:27 pm

Yeah, if you're of a body type that actually fits on a tiny Street Triple and doesn't look silly, the Caponord may well be a bit on the large side for you.  



5'10" and about 165. So I'm not of an ideal scale for heavy adventure tourers.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on April 08, 2013, 04:29:36 pm
Another video from Tor, with a fair amount of new footage and more detailed thoughts on the bike.  He really digs it, scoring it higher than the Multi.



Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: bubba zanetti on April 08, 2013, 04:58:22 pm

Heh, you should see me on ADVRider talking about it.  Some epic posts in the "Beasts" section.  :)

The gnarly off-road lovers over there hate it (and the Multistrada, for that matter).




CapoNot !!   :lol:   Those guys are brutal !


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on April 11, 2013, 05:57:17 pm
MCN first ride:

Quote
In short, the Caponord is one of the most impressive bikes I’ve ever ridden in terms of comfort and ride quality. It feels like the rear is on a magic carpet of smoothness.


http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/First-rides-tests/2013/March/apr1113-aprilia-caponord-first-ride/


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Hambonee on April 12, 2013, 05:29:27 pm

MCN first ride:



http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/First-rides-tests/2013/March/apr1113-aprilia-caponord-first-ride/


Damnit..these reviews are not looking good for the olde wallet...


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: satxbonneville on June 02, 2013, 11:44:49 pm



Damnit..these reviews are not looking good for the olde wallet...


I'm with ya on that one. I've already told the wife that I want one when they hit here in 2014. I love my big yeller 'strom but this thing has me daydreaming about a hot Italian model.  :naughty:


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Silverbird on June 09, 2013, 05:51:03 pm
Wow, I'd sure like to see them sell alot of these.   Did Ducati buy them?  How stable is Aprilia as a company?


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Hambonee on June 09, 2013, 07:07:56 pm

Wow, I'd sure like to see them sell alot of these.   Did Ducati buy them?  How stable is Aprilia as a company?


Aprilia is part of Piaggio which is multiple brands including Guzzis and Vespa..

http://www.piaggio.com/en/

Not sure regarding the stability but I know there was a huge influx of cash to Guzzi for restyling etc from them.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Silverbird on June 09, 2013, 11:31:01 pm
Tor is the man. The way he says "suspension" cracks me up


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Volfy on June 10, 2013, 02:14:23 pm
Had an '08 RSV1000R factory Red Lion and loved every minute of owning it.  Them Eye-talians just have a flair for building beautiful motorcycles.  I would not hesitate to buy an Aprilia if they make a supersport ST like the Futura.  I am so hoping Piaggio gave the greenlight to revive the Futura with this drivetrain.  Would love to be able to choose between a Futura 1200 and Norge GT, when the time comes for me to get another ST.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on June 11, 2013, 04:52:35 am
Futura is dead.  ST bikes under 600 pounds are dead.  They're not coming back.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Volfy on June 11, 2013, 04:48:32 pm

Futura is dead.  ST bikes under 600 pounds are dead.  They're not coming back.

That would explain why BMW just introduced the F800GT.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Croak on June 12, 2013, 02:35:09 am


That would explain why BMW just introduced the F800GT.


No, that just shows they can't move the ST and are trying to recoup something by a mild refresh of the platform.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: falconati on June 14, 2013, 02:35:57 pm

Futura is dead.  ST bikes under 600 pounds are dead.  They're not coming back.


A BMW R1200RT weighs less than 600 lbs, road ready.  Pretty sure you're incorrect on this point, but I agree that 'Adventure' bikes are a more popular segment right now, and therefore we're not likely to see a new Futura soon (which is very heartbreaking).


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Silverbird on June 15, 2013, 05:10:17 pm

Futura is dead.  ST bikes under 600 pounds are dead.  They're not coming back.


Damn technology...they will only get heavier too.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Volfy on June 16, 2013, 12:35:20 am

A BMW R1200RT weighs less than 600 lbs, road ready.  Pretty sure you're incorrect on this point, but I agree that 'Adventure' bikes are a more popular segment right now, and therefore we're not likely to see a new Futura soon (which is very heartbreaking).

Moto Guzzi Norge GT 8V is right about the same weight as the RT.  Suzuki GSX1250FA is well south of 600 lbs.  VFR1200F and K1300S are both just under.  Granted, not popular choices compared to adv tourers and full-on 700 lbs ST's, but their death might have been greatly exaggerated.

Besides, bikes like Ninja 1000, Z1000, and FZ1/FZ8 are only a set of aftermarket bags away from being excellent STs.  Much closer to the origins of the ST species, might I add.  Flip through TwistedThrottle's catalog and you will find plenty of standard, half-faired, sport-oriented bikes that can readily kitted up as a ST.  Peruse through online forums, and you'll find no shortage of riders that have done exactly that.

Sport Touring is a frame of mind.  Riders have been doing it long before there are these 700+lbs techno ships and 2-wheeled SUV's.

(http://www.givi.co.uk/attachfile/content/moto_regionali_uk/65820/0.0.1.yamahafz1fazer_lato.jpg)


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Volfy on June 16, 2013, 12:42:47 am
Just to stay on apes, the Mana GT can also be kitted up as an ST.  These are ape factory bags, OEM'ed by GIVI.

(http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/Piaggio/Maxi/2009_Aprilia_Mana850GT_Tor%20(4).jpg)

(http://databikes.com/imgs/a/a/c/w/q/aprilia__mana_850_gt_abs__factory_warranty__2011_1_lgw.jpg)


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Pete Roper on July 18, 2013, 08:45:07 am
My last big US trip was on a bagged up Mana GT, I'm currently touring here on a Guzzi Cali 1400. If I was on my own I'd greatly prefer to be on the Mana. While its suspension in stock trim isn't brilliant the overall package is superb.

Pete


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: staedtler on February 07, 2014, 12:04:35 am
 :thumbsup:



http://www.apriliausa.com/motorcycles/caponord-1200-abs-travel-pack.html


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Silverbird on February 07, 2014, 01:13:23 am

 :thumbsup:



http://www.apriliausa.com/motorcycles/caponord-1200-abs-travel-pack.html


HA! The Multislayer!  180 rear tire and a 6.3 gallon tank to boot. Looks like you might have to register it in two states with that wheelbase though  :couch:


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: bubba zanetti on March 27, 2014, 04:32:34 pm
(http://www.cycleworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Aprilia-Caponord-1200-ABS-action-2-590x393.jpg)

Cyco World test of the new Big Ape ....

http://www.cycleworld.com/2014/03/25/2014-aprilia-caponord-1200-abs-travel-pack-road-test-review-photos-specifications/


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: SalsaShark on May 24, 2014, 08:07:57 am
Going on tour...

http://www.apriliausa.com/news/aprilia-caponord-demo-tour.html

(http://www.apriliausa.com/public/upload/images/resized/1000x713/Caponord_Demo_Tour_1000x630.jpg)


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Silverbird on May 24, 2014, 12:13:13 pm
I've never been to a Demo, it's on Tuesday do think I'd have to wait long?


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: SalsaShark on May 24, 2014, 12:40:36 pm
 :shrug:

Your guess is as good as mine...

If they only have one or two for rides, you might have to stand around for a while, but with it being on a Tuesday, you may get a good ride with a small crowd.

I'm considering checking out the one near me... near being a relative term being a 3 hour ride away.

Personally, if I were still in CO, I'd wait for Erico or Fays to get a demo model and go take it out on my own time.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: karlfitt on July 30, 2014, 05:49:27 pm
So,
No one has bought one of these yet?

Saw one at the dealer yesterday (My annual post ride "my bike didn't do everything perfect" shopping trip) and loved they way it looked.
I have read some on line reviews, and it sounds great.

Would like to hear from a real person who owns one.



Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: Silverbird on August 03, 2014, 10:53:12 am
Motorcycle.com did a comparo with the Z1000 and Multi.  Capo's ADD is a fail it would seem, and shame on that Tor Spensen guy for letting Aprillia pay him off.  From the looks of his vid he can't ride for shit anyway.


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: rdbandkab on May 20, 2015, 05:03:08 pm
Thoroughly enjoyed our Capo test ride a few weeks ago.  We took the bike on some rough roads to see just how the ADD works..   I'm sold!  
Our only question is RED or WHITE?


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: rdbandkab on July 21, 2015, 04:09:49 pm
the answer is "white".
We picked up a Glam White 2015 a few weeks ago.  :D


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: staedtler on July 21, 2015, 05:04:32 pm
 :needpics:


Title: Re: 2013 Capnord
Post by: rdbandkab on July 26, 2015, 09:36:41 am
My co-pilot checking out the luggage.

(http://s14.postimg.org/9ge643uc1/DSCN3565x.jpg)


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