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« on: April 28, 2015, 05:38:17 pm »

I have just completed a riders review of the 1000 Versys. Remember that this is only my thoughts on the Big V. I am not a paid writer, just an avid fan of this great hobby.

http://www.motoadrenaline.net/2015/04/the-ultimate-sport-touring-machine.html







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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2015, 01:42:40 am »

Surely you meant the FJ-09?  Bigok
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 10:02:16 am »

Nice article/write up. Glad you like the bike. Also agree that the chain business is something I never considered a detriment except for the lubing. With a center stand all is OK.





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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2015, 05:33:14 pm »

I have opened this thread several times, and each time I think I am going to find that it is about the ZX14R  Lol I guess I just can't accept that there would be any other answer.

Seriously though - nice job on the write up.  Enjoy the bike!
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2015, 12:33:30 pm »

Proving that I will never be happy I'm considering moving from a ZX14R to versys.  I'm amazed at the amout of heat it still throws off on a 90 degree day when the engine is super hot. Contradicts everything I've read about the bike  Can anyone comment if the Versys would be any better?
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2015, 01:01:54 pm »


Proving that I will never be happy I'm considering moving from a ZX14R to versys.  I'm amazed at the amout of heat it still throws off on a 90 degree day when the engine is super hot. Contradicts everything I've read about the bike  Can anyone comment if the Versys would be any better?


I hate to butcher lobo10s' thread but my ZX14 is not hot when I'm moving. Used for sport touring it does great. And after the centerstand, handlebars and lower foot pegs, what's not to like?
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2015, 07:31:47 pm »

I wouldn't say mine is overly hot.  

I week ago I rode two hours in mostly a driving rain and one thing I've found about the 14 that I didn't expect is that it is quite good in the rain.  The longer wheel base and electronic aids really help it out in the rain.
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2015, 03:08:37 pm »




I hate to butcher lobo10s' thread but my ZX14 is not hot when I'm moving. Used for sport touring it does great. And after the centerstand, handlebars and lower foot pegs, what's not to like?


In terms of Kawasaki's is seems:

C14 is the ultimate sport-TOURING bike
ZX14 is the ultimate SPORT-touring bike
Versy's is the ultimate sport-touring bike
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2015, 10:43:25 am »




In terms of Kawasaki's is seems:

C14 is the ultimate sport-TOURING bike
ZX14 is the ultimate SPORT-touring bike
Versy's is the ultimate sport-touring bike



I hadn't thought of it that way but makes perfect sense.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2015, 07:13:14 pm »

Ninja 1000 just got diss'ed big time.   Razz
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2015, 10:38:17 am »


Ninja 1000 just got diss'ed big time.   Razz


Any bike spinning and vibrating that much at 70mph doesn't strike me as a "tourer"  Ninja 1K is a comfortable sportbike, and a fantastic one at that.
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2015, 11:27:10 am »

Got a chance to test ride both the S1000XR and the Versys1000 last weekend.  The Big V is indeed less viby than the Ninja 1000, but not by much.  Both of those adv's are still not immune to the 2XRPM buzz.  I was hoping Kawi had refined the 1043cc inline4 closer to that of the C14 and ZX14, but nope.

Regardless... great bikes in their own right.  The Ninja1k is still the better choice for short-legged riders.
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2015, 07:50:24 pm »

No kidding? Cross the versys 1k off my list then. You give the 14r a fair shot yet?
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2015, 04:17:43 pm »


No kidding? Cross the versys 1k off my list then. You give the 14r a fair shot yet?

Missed your post here... sorry.

Well... as it turns out, the ZX14R might have lost to a sweet deal I got on a Sprint GT a few months back, but I just knew it was an itch I needed to scratch eventually.  A local dealer just took in an almost brand new '14 ZX14R ABS, decked out with some serious farkles.  Just put down a deposit on it... might have it in my garage this weekend.  Cool
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2015, 05:43:23 pm »



Missed your post here... sorry.

Well... as it turns out, the ZX14R might have lost to a sweet deal I got on a Sprint GT a few months back, but I just knew it was an itch I needed to scratch eventually.  A local dealer just took in an almost brand new '14 ZX14R ABS, decked out with some serious farkles.  Just put down a deposit on it... might have it in my garage this weekend.  Cool


What would you be giving up in the garage?

'14 Trophy SE?
'13 Speed3R?
'11 Sprint GT? or
'10 VFR1200, the oldest bike of the bunch?

My guess is the Sprint or the Trophy goes, only based on your much professed love for the big VFR. Sprint and VFR too similar, but the Trophy may be too much TOUR as opposed to sport?

Interested to hear about this one!

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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2015, 10:18:32 am »

Dan,

I will pick up on the ZX14R on another thread.  To stay on topic here, I did consider the Versys 1000, which I find to be the adv tourer that fit what I would want:

1. Preferably "sportbike size" 17" wheels, since I don't much care to go off-road.  Most others (VStom1k, Super Tenere, Caponord, etc.) all have 19" front and smaller 17" rear.
2. Reasonable seat height.  V1k's stock seat actually felt the lowest compared to the other adv's I sat on.  Multistrada was wayyy too tall.  Vstrom and S10 were pretty close, but both of those have low seat option that V1k doesn't.
3. Luggage.  V1k comes with panniers, which are actually very nicely shaped and holds a full face helmet in either case.

In the end, since I've already got a sit-up-straight tourer in the Trophy, I didn't want another one.  If I am ever in the market for an adv, the Versys 1000 ranks right up there.
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2015, 02:08:04 pm »




Any bike spinning and vibrating that much at 70mph doesn't strike me as a "tourer"  Ninja 1K is a comfortable sportbike, and a fantastic one at that.


Ivan's ECU flash reduces the vibes/buzz to less than it was on my FJR. 800 mile days and no numbness or tingling.

The N1K still has lots more power than the Versys 1000. Just like the Bandits, I'm sure the big V owners will find ways to get more oooomph from their mills using N1K parts.
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2015, 11:42:16 am »

I left the sport-touring world in 2008 to dabble in the Harley touring madness for a few years. I couldn't stand it anymore, and the last four years, this has been my "Sport-Touring" progression...

2002 ST4S



2008 ZX14



2011 Ninja 1K



And as of last Friday, a 2015 V1K


Bought the Duc on impulse from a friend. It felt a lot like my beloved '98 VFR ergo wise. Power was nice, sound was orgasmic, maintenance was...the reason I got rid of it after 8 months.


The ZX14 was buttery smooth, and the acceleration was mind numbing. Cruising on the interstate at 85 mph in 6th gear, then rolling the throttle and watching the speedo needle sweep past 10 mph increments, per second, made me giggle like a school girl each time I did it. It was OK two-up with the Corbin backrest installed, but the missus was ready to get off every 100 miles or so. It was great solo, except when my buds hit the tight twisties...then it was an absolute pig.




I decided to "downgrade" to the Ninja 1K. Even though it had less power, I found myself hustling through the same twisties much faster. It was much less work, and much more fun. I only missed the power when trying to embarrass Porsches on the interstate. Two-up it sucked, though. I added a top box mount for the missus, but the seat was only good for her for @ 50 miles and her legs were way too cramped (and she has short legs). For solo riding, it was the ultimate sport-tourer...I absolutely loved the Ninja 1K and never had any issues with vibration. Sure, I felt some...but it was never to a point that it bothered me. But I wanted something I could still hustle pretty quickly solo, while being capable for occasional two-up.




So I decided to trade the Ninja in for a new Versys 1K. Same torquey engine as the N1K, but with much better pillion accommodations. So far, the V' has proven much smoother than the Ninja...although I think having the full Akra exhaust contributed to some of the extra vibes. It has less power, but I haven't found myself wanting. And it's much more agreeable for the missus. I may eventually go for an exhaust/remap, just because...who doesn't want more power?

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