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Question: Do you plan on attending?
Yes - 3 (18.8%)
No - 8 (50%)
1 - 30% chance - 2 (12.5%)
30 - 70% chance - 2 (12.5%)
71 - 99% chance - 1 (6.3%)
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« on: August 03, 2015, 04:15:32 pm »

Trying to get a head count.
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2015, 06:52:01 pm »

Made camping reservations today.   Thumbsup
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2015, 12:03:13 pm »

Maybe adjust the poll to add some variety for the "maybe" option.

< 30% chance that I'll make it
30-70% chance that I'll make it
>70% chance that I'll make it

That way those who are really close to attending can be counted on at a more accurate rate.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2015, 12:32:44 pm »

If I do it's going to be short and sweet.  Ride to from Chicago on the 8th in time for dinner and whatnot.  Ride back the next day.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2015, 12:57:43 pm »


If I do it's going to be short and sweet.  Ride to from Chicago on the 8th in time for dinner and whatnot.  Ride back the next day.


I was thinking one night either Friday, Saturday or Sunday, with a ride back the next day... not sure I can swing it during the week...

But all of us Chicago area riders should talk. Prefer to ride with one or two of you guys as opposed to solo.

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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2015, 01:29:13 pm »

It's on my radar screen but I won't commit until the week before when I return from EST.O and see what the work and weather gods have in store for me.

I'm probably in the "<30% maybe" range at this point.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2015, 01:32:22 pm »


Trying to get a head count.



***  I took the liberty of editing the poll. You can now change your vote, which I encourage you to do if need be    Especially since I changed the options  Bigsmile
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2015, 08:05:21 am »

I have every intention of going...

Being local (comparatively, at least!) I can get from MKE to LA X in four hours or so...so it'd be a [email protected] shame if I didn't make this a priority...especially since it'll likely be another decade before we see a National held here in flyover country.

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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2015, 10:53:44 am »

Just like Garry, I'm intending to go, but reserving making a commitment until after EST-O.

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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2015, 11:20:17 am »

For those who initially voted "maybe", please check your vote and see if there is a more accurate selection. Thanks  
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2015, 02:34:27 pm »

Underhanded moderation.  Bigsmile
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2015, 02:49:54 pm »


Underhanded moderation.  Bigsmile


 


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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2015, 03:46:32 pm »




I was thinking one night either Friday, Saturday or Sunday, with a ride back the next day... not sure I can swing it during the week...

But all of us Chicago area riders should talk. Prefer to ride with one or two of you guys as opposed to solo.

- Dan


??? - Meet only happening during the week, Tues - Thurs, 8th thru the 10th.  My window very limited since don't get back from Utah until that Monday.  Plan on heading over the next day, 8th, and them come back on Wednesday.  Weather premitting.  Love some company on way there or back if it's in anyone else schedule.
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2015, 01:04:35 pm »

No weekend? WTF is with that? I probably won't be there then. Change my vote to NOT LIKELY.

Shit.

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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2015, 01:25:17 pm »


No weekend? WTF is with that? I probably won't be there then. Change my vote to NOT LIKELY.

Shit.

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Seriously, the Nationals have always been mid-week events, giving those "long-distance sport-tourers" more time to get there from the far corners of the country. Week-end events are just regional meets...
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2015, 01:26:13 pm »


...I probably won't be there then. Change my vote to NOT LIKELY.


Oh, and you can change your own vote. I enabled that  Cool
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2015, 03:13:08 pm »

Vote changed.

Why wouldn't national occur at the beginning or end of the week, allowing weekend participation AS WELL?

Seems silly.

I'd love to go and meet everyone in person, just don't see it happening during the week.

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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2015, 04:11:17 pm »


Why wouldn't national occur at the beginning or end of the week, allowing weekend participation AS WELL?


Because of the original thought was this: if the Meet was officially in the middle of the week, that would give the riders Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday to get there, Wednesday to hang out, and then Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday to get home. This is important for a National Meet, as it would in theory allow riders from national locations to attend with only a week off.

I attended a National Meet in West Virginia while I was living in Seattle. Not exactly doable over a weekend... Shrug
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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2015, 04:12:36 pm »


Seems silly.

I'd love to go and meet everyone in person, just don't see it happening during the week.



Sounds like you ought to plan a Regional Meet  Bigsmile
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2015, 04:43:57 pm »

The last regional I went to was also a mid-week meet.  It worked out perfectly.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2015, 10:21:52 pm »




Because of the original thought was this: if the Meet was officially in the middle of the week, that would give the riders Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday to get there, Wednesday to hang out, and then Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday to get home. This is important for a National Meet, as it would in theory allow riders from national locations to attend with only a week off.

I attended a National Meet in West Virginia while I was living in Seattle. Not exactly doable over a weekend... Shrug


^^^^ This. Totally this.  
Overwhelming reason I don't make it to most regional meets, which often seem ( to me ) to be
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2015, 09:38:02 am »

I will not be attending.  Date was announced too late for me to plan accordingly.  

Last year, the few who attended - everyone of us - said a weekend date would have been better for us.

No one showed up who said a mid-week date made it possible for them.  

Plus, there were several people who did not attend who would have been there if it had been in a weekend.  

A mid-week date works for workers who must schedule a full week off at a time.  There aren't many of us who have those types of jobs anymore.  Many of us have jobs where our bosses or businesses make it easier to schedule 2 or 3 days off at the end of one week and 2 or 3 days off at the beginning of the next.  Sure, there is a disadvantage in this that your time off loses 2 days from the loss of 2 adjoining weekends.  Balancing that are many people who no longer have traditional 5 day work weeks.  

Time for a change.  Move it to a weekend.  Make it a Friday night, so folks have a long weekend to slab it home.  Anyone going cross-country is going to want to take more time anyway.  Attendance will improve.

I rest my case.
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^^^^ This. Totally this.  
Overwhelming reason I don't make it to most regional meets, which often seem ( to me ) to be
carefully crafted solely for the convenience of the organizers.





Sounds like you ought to plan a Regional Meet  Bigsmile
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2015, 01:31:47 pm »

Just kill the damn thing and have strictly regional meets on the weekends.
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2015, 03:03:48 pm »

Someone's always gonna moan. Always always always.

Why not just go where you can, don't where you can't, and stop complaining about shit?
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2015, 03:44:20 pm »

I think many are missing the point.
I can make a three or four day "weekend" almost
any time I want. In fact, I'm currently in Staunton,
VA for four days with about 20 like-minded folks
for a so-called "Regional".
However, I enjoy spending a week on the road to
ride to an event or selected destination, hence
the interest in a "National" that is scheduled in
advance allowing ample time for planning.
I'm already planning on returning to Eureka
Springs for the National next year, assuming it
happens, probably even if it doesn't.
So I don't understand the "it would be better on
a weekend" sentiment.
Another group I ride with had 500 people show
up for a mid-week National last year and had
300 people show up mid -week this year.
They expect a similar turnout for next year.
It's doable if you want to go.

I earn time-off from work. It's not up to my boss,
job or company how, when or where I use it.
I just prefer not to "blow it" on weekend Regional
meets that are more than a long days ride away.
There are always plenty available closer.
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2015, 04:05:37 pm »


I'm already planning on returning to Eureka
Springs for the National next year, assuming it
happens, probably even if it doesn't.


See ya there.
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2015, 07:39:02 pm »

[quote author=SLK50 link=topic=108873.msg2421401#msg2421401 date=1438976660
Another group I ride with had 500 people show
up for a mid-week National last year and had
300 people show up mid -week this year.
They expect a similar turnout for next year.
It's doable if you want to go.


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Wow, that is a big group!

What group can pull those kind of numbers, and how are they lodged?
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Someone's always gonna moan. Always always always.

Why not just go where you can, don't where you can't, and stop complaining about shit?



Not trying to moan, just wish I could make it. Hard to go anywhere during the week. Really enjoy the regional meetups (on the few occasions I can make it) and would love to make a national, is all.

Carry on.

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Another group I ride with had 500 people show
up for a mid-week National last year and had
300 people show up mid -week this year.
They expect a similar turnout for next year.
It's doable if you want to go.





Wow, that is a big group!

What group can pull those kind of numbers, and how are they lodged?


I don't know for sure if it is the group jimmy is referring to, but the Concours Owner's Group had 500+ at their 2014 National in
Johnson City TN (totally filled the hotel); and 300+ at the 2015 COG National in Cortez CO. MSTA had 300+ at Springdale AR this year.
Lodging: At all three great events I mentioned there was a large central hotel and some nearby ones for overflow. The COG events also both had a campground
in the area.

Most Nationals are held mid week for the reasons mentioned further up the thread. Those that need time off from work only need take a week off. If it was
on the weekend and you had to cross the country then it would be almost two weeks. It's only logical, regional events on weekends, Nationals mid week.
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« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2015, 08:36:39 pm »

Or I'm thinking it could have been the FJR group.  They have similar draws.  

They are not like us, nor should we do something just because they do it.  

Thing I always liked about STN is that it is different from those groups.  

That sets us apart.  It may also limit our appeal.  So be it.  

Maybe that means trying something different.  

Believe me, if it doesn't suit the membership you'll hear about it.
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« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2015, 02:01:03 am »


Maybe that means trying something different.  


Oh, like maybe just ditching the Nationals altogether and just having Regionals? Well, if only 3-4 people show up at this year's National, that's just what might happen. Still, there was enough interest a couple of months ago (with a mid-week date - that's never been in question for a National) for Dr Mikey to go ahead and put something together.


Believe me, if it doesn't suit the membership you'll hear about it.


Gee, ya think?  Bigsmile
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« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2015, 10:30:16 am »

No Eureka Springs next year?  That would really be a shame, because I for sure would like to make that ride; regardless whether it's on the weekend or mid-week. Only constraint is if date doesn't fit my personal travel plans.  
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« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2015, 10:49:29 am »

Unfortunately I will be unable to attend.  Seems such a shame with the meet right here in WI but I am booked on shoots every day that week.  Kudos to Dr. Mikey for putting in the work.
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« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2015, 05:18:57 pm »

Dr. Mikey, thank you for trying to organize this meet.  I'm out.
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« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2015, 10:03:56 pm »




I was thinking one night either Friday, Saturday or Sunday, with a ride back the next day... not sure I can swing it during the week...

But all of us Chicago area riders should talk. Prefer to ride with one or two of you guys as opposed to solo.

- Dan


If I do it's going to be short and sweet.  Ride to from Chicago on the 8th in time for dinner and whatnot.  Ride back the next day.


I'm in the Chicago area and would also like to do a Tuesday-Wednesday roundtrip.  A couple guys riding out there together could work well.

You guys still in?  
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« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2015, 10:55:06 am »





I'm in the Chicago area and would also like to do a Tuesday-Wednesday roundtrip.  A couple guys riding out there together could work well.

You guys still in?  


Yep, but only if weather is decent.  Not sure what time I would take off Tuesday morning, get back in town kinda of late Monday.  Hopefully around 8ish.  No route planned at this point.
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« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2015, 02:29:40 pm »

I'm still a go and will be there Monday night, all day Tuesday, and leaving Wed. morning.

Hope all the "maybes" make it!   Thumbsup
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« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2015, 10:16:49 pm »

Agreed about the weather.  If it's bad, may have to make adjustments.

Right now Tuesday looks kind of nasty.  But Wed and Thurs look perfect.

If that persists, I may change my Tue-Wed roundtrip to Wed-Thur.

Will keep checking the weather, and this thread, for updates.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2015, 05:47:44 am »

I can get a long weekend on either side of this one, and it's practically in my backyard, but vacation mid week is pretty much impossible.
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« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2015, 10:46:22 am »

I'm still "in"
...but it will be Wednesday-only for me.  


I have not yet decided whether I'll ride up Tuesday PM (most probable) or Wednesday (early early) AM.

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« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2015, 07:37:19 pm »

Sitting in Salt Lake City Airport making my way home. What's the weather update? Hope I'm not the only one there if I do get a weather window to go.
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« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2015, 07:48:11 pm »

Weather was perfect today.  75 & partly sunny - no rain. I'm here - by myself.    Twofinger  ground down my pegs on the way in snd have had 3 IPAs so I'm great.  Bigok
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« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2015, 07:54:34 pm »


Sitting in Salt Lake City Airport making my way home. What's the weather update? Hope I'm not the only one there if I do get a weather window to go.



Weather window?!  What's that?  only a 20% chance of rain tomorrow.  Some of my best riding days EVER have been in rain.  Buck up Bucktown!  Don't be a pussy!!  Bigok
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« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2015, 08:51:18 pm »


Weather was perfect today.  75 & partly sunny - no rain. I'm here - by myself.    Twofinger  ground down my pegs on the way in snd have had 3 IPAs so I'm great.  Bigok


I'm here now, too.  Room 230.
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« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2015, 09:09:09 pm »

I'm at the hotel bar.  Twisted Throttle Tshirt.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2015, 09:21:41 pm »

I'll be there shortly.  One more phone call to make.
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« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2015, 08:20:19 am »

I think I can swing by this evening after work.

When and where?
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« Reply #48 on: September 08, 2015, 09:03:23 am »


I think I can swing by this evening after work.

When and where?


So, we're HQ'd at the Best Western along the river on the north side of LaCrosse.  What time do you finish work? We can be back here, or somewhere to the east.  We plan to do Wildcat first, and LaFarge or close by for lunch. After that, nothing definite.
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« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2015, 09:08:11 am »




Weather window?!  What's that?  only a 20% chance of rain tomorrow.  Some of my best riding days EVER have been in rain.  Buck up Bucktown!  Don't be a pussy!!  Bigok


"Weather Window"....an opportunity to ride without getting pissed on all day......and I see one coming from Chicago.  I'm gonna head out around 9:30-10am if anyone wants to jump in.  Where's dinner tonight?
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« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2015, 10:07:26 am »

Do we want Mexican, Thai, Irish, or traditional American deep fried?
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« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2015, 11:36:04 am »

I vote for Irish, but...
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« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2015, 01:06:56 pm »




So, we're HQ'd at the Best Western along the river on the north side of LaCrosse.  What time do you finish work? We can be back here, or somewhere to the east.  We plan to do Wildcat first, and LaFarge or close by for lunch. After that, nothing definite.


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« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2015, 03:24:35 pm »


I'm still "in"
...but it will be Wednesday-only for me.  


I have not yet decided whether I'll ride up Tuesday PM (most probable) or Wednesday (early early) AM.





Spoke too soon, apparently.  New job / new responsibilities....and an Open House on Thursday means I'm "out".
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« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2015, 06:55:28 pm »

An "absolutely perfect" day for riding the Driftless area....and I'm stuck inside.

Life is about choices...but, sometimes, life is about having to do what "must" be done instead of what one "wants" to do...

In any case...I'm riding this weekend, for certain!

Hope all who have made the National are having great fun...ride safe!
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« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2015, 08:18:33 pm »

Thanks again to Dr.Mikey for all the hospitality!  Bigok  I also really enjoyed meeting bucktownbilly and dorklord.    Hope you guys had good riding on Wednesday.

I found some nice new roads in MN on the way home... Made it home in 3 hours, despite taking the scenic route.   I may have had the ST1300 throttle set to "warp."

Below you'll find some pics and an couple maps with my GPS Log.  Blue is my route on Monday on the way in.  Red is the loop that DrMikey and I rode on Tuesday (much fun!) and Green is my route home this morning.

Hope the next national has more participation!  I know I'll be spending a LOT more time in SW Wisconsin in the future!

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« Reply #56 on: September 10, 2015, 07:59:55 am »

With my circumnavigation of the plains states complete I spent last night just outside Rochester Minnesota and will be riding through LaCrosse today.  Anyone still around?
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« Reply #57 on: September 10, 2015, 10:50:54 am »

naustin....must have been a tad foggy when you took off yesterday morning EEK!
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« Reply #58 on: September 10, 2015, 11:36:17 am »

Here's photographic evidence that a few people did show for the "National":



L to R there's Bill (BucktownBilly), Nick (naustin), Me (Dr. Mikey) and Chris (DorkLord)
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« Reply #59 on: September 10, 2015, 02:07:37 pm »


naustin....must have been a tad foggy when you took off yesterday morning EEK!


Yeah it was!  Had to slow down a little, but it was ethereal  Thumbsup
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« Reply #60 on: September 10, 2015, 02:16:08 pm »

Well even though I didn't get to enjoy it, Thanks! Dr.Mikey for all the work.
 After all my talk earlier, I was unable to attend as my bike is still in the shop.
Apparently I broke a tooth off of 4th gear while attending the MSTA National in Arkansas in June. Parts were "back ordered" and it is/was warranty work so a slow
go. I'm not complaining about the dealer service, I'm just glad the warranty covers it. However, I thought I should respond here after my earlier posts about the National.

So total attendance was ...4?  EEK!  I wish I had been the fifth.

That route in red looks a lot like what I rode out of Spring Green WI in May.
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« Reply #61 on: September 11, 2015, 11:58:39 am »



So total attendance was ...4?  EEK!  



Was sad that it was only 4 peeps.  That said it was an incredible day on Wednesday.  Weather was prefect, roads were awesome, and company the best.  Thanks again DrMike for everything. Bigok
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« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2015, 04:51:04 pm »

I wanted to chime in and thank DrMikey for the work as well.

I had a good time BSing with the rest of the crowd at the hotel bar/patio.
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