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« Reply #100 on: January 20, 2021, 12:54:43 pm »


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Yep on the opinion of I4s vs twins?  the sv800?  or triumph 660?  all of the above??

inquiring minds want to know...  

and no, I can't help it  Bigsmile  
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« Reply #101 on: January 20, 2021, 12:57:57 pm »

I think this discussion of Big V-twins and In-line 4's is pretty accurate. Both have their place and fans. However, the big boxer, in a different sense, gives a blend of both worlds. Lots of low end grunt (like a V-twin) with tract-able power (like an in-line 4). Maybe that's why so many are using the R GS as a sport/touring/commuter machine, with little pretense of taking it off road.
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« Reply #102 on: January 20, 2021, 01:13:48 pm »


I think this discussion of Big V-twins and In-line 4's is pretty accurate. Both have their place and fans. However, the big boxer, in a different sense, gives a blend of both worlds. Lots of low end grunt (like a V-twin) with tract-able power (like an in-line 4). Maybe that's why so many are using the R GS as a sport/touring/commuter machine, with little pretense of taking it off road.


Agreed -- 2 out of 3 ain't bad (Meatloaf) --- the boxers lack the HP....  some of that is air/oil cooling... but lots of it is that that fewer cyllinders = bigger pistons and/or longer strokes = lower top rpm and less efficient fueling.   Beacuse of their inherent balance -  without needing heavy flywheels or counterbalancers -  the boxers get to run harder and have smoother low end response.
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« Reply #103 on: January 20, 2021, 01:17:33 pm »


I think this discussion of Big V-twins and In-line 4's is pretty accurate. Both have their place and fans. However, the big boxer, in a different sense, gives a blend of both worlds. Lots of low end grunt (like a V-twin) with tract-able power (like an in-line 4). Maybe that's why so many are using the R GS as a sport/touring/commuter machine, with little pretense of taking it off road.



How come I failed to see low end grunt on my boxer test ride?

Personal opinion I know but BMW's boxer engines have about the same attraction to me as our clothes dryer.
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« Reply #104 on: January 20, 2021, 02:24:36 pm »





How come I failed to see low end grunt on my boxer test ride?

Personal opinion I know but BMW's boxer engines have about the same attraction to me as our clothes dryer.


It took me a while to bond with mine, but having had a few Guzzi's, I had a bit of an understanding they like to spin. My hex head puts down quite a bit of torque around 3500 rpm. The newer 1250 water heads are tuned for a bit more surge at the top end I am told, but the couple I have test ridden (an RS and a GS) seemed equal in torque down around 3-1/2K. Of course they are not designed to be lugged, like a long stroke twin (HD), with the happy spot cruising 4 to 5K and want to rev on up to the 7K range.

But I get it that different folks like different characteristics from their bikes. I enjoy all my bikes from the singles, twins, triples and the 4's. I do have to adjust riding styles for each, as the bikes demand.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #105 on: January 20, 2021, 08:35:50 pm »



It took me a while to bond with mine,


What is, "words never spoken by Blue?"
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« Reply #106 on: January 20, 2021, 11:19:19 pm »




What is, "words never spoken by Blue?"


I got a neighbor down the street. Every time I see him he cusses me. I didn't give him much time to "bond" with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #107 on: January 20, 2021, 11:29:52 pm »




Yep on the opinion of I4s vs twins?  the sv800?  or triumph 660?  all of the above??

inquiring minds want to know...  

and no, I can't help it  Bigsmile  


Yep means I agree with what you wrote.                  Nuts
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« Reply #108 on: January 21, 2021, 10:20:20 pm »


How come I failed to see low end grunt on my boxer test ride?

Personal opinion I know but BMW's boxer engines have about the same attraction to me as our clothes dryer.


Clothes dryer -- I go one worse --- sewing machine...   but that's still better than the 900lb super loud rolling oil leaks all my federal LEO friends ride.
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