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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2017, 12:39:18 am »

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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2017, 06:51:30 am »

A buddy and I were talking about this bike a month or so ago. How many of these is Kawasaki really going to sell? Great bike but  if I wanted to go sport touring with my wife(as pictured in the ad) how many other bikes out there are much better at the task? I mean, can you really be riding "on the pipe" and loaded down with stuff?

It's great that Kawasaki developed this but we think they should be focusing on other types of bikes to draw more riders into their dealerships. If I wanted a great sport touring ride and I only had myself to carry around I'd have what I have now! UFO, I can hardly wait for your insurance man to tell you what the insurance cost of this thing will be!
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2017, 07:21:34 pm »

Everyone is making an adventure/touring/retro bike these days. Hell, Kawasaki has 45 street legal models, ranging from enduros to a 300hp missile.  Pretty sure this bike is not going to limit someone's choice across all models, all manufacturers.

It's nice to see a manufacturer still interested in the segment and still taking risks. Honda threw in the towel. BMW did too, but will probably be back. FJR is still in it with the FJR. I owned one, and liked it well enough. But wasn't really excited about going back to one.

Not worried about insurance. No bike I've ever insured with my agency has cost more than $300-$400 a year with full coverage (Hayabusa, FJR, Multistrada, and everything in between).

If I pick one up, it will never see a passenger. Bigsmile
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2017, 11:00:58 am »

Insurance never over $300 to $400 per year? Too bad I don't live in your state and have your agent!

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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2017, 02:09:07 pm »

Yeah, I just looked at my Multistrada's policy. $305/yr for full coverage (liability, comp $500 deduct, collision, underinsured, bodily injury, property damage, etc)

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« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2017, 01:49:49 pm »

From what I understand the Multi was gotten even more unreliable and issue-prone. Multi forums with lots of dedicated buyers still say the whole DVT rollout was a disaster.
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« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2017, 08:47:19 pm »

The appeal of this bike is the rather unique power delivery, amazing performance, all coupled with realistic Street ability and an old school Sport touring seating position. It is function over form and no doubt will rankle the current deciples of motorcycle styling. I quite like the pics. It smacks of a barely concealed, yet style suggested ... malevolence. It is rude looking. Like many Kaw bikes past.

This is not a Z14 with a pipe and a reflash. This is an honest to goodness game changer a la the class defining and changing VFR. But now, it will distort your vision, drain your green cred and thankfully, .... be ugly to many ... who simply donít understand the exercise. Bring it on.

I may own a used one two years hence.

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« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2017, 06:10:41 pm »

I've been told that first shipment of SXs will be "released" in January, with more releases in Feb and March. I don't know if that means shipped from Japan or in dealerships. I suspect the former.
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2018, 06:17:28 am »

Iím not seeing the attraction of 200 hp  Headscratch

Udo Geitl said in an interview that 100 hp is all you need on the street. He rode a Ducati Monster. I think Iíd rather ride a slow bike fast  Smile It seems to me that a 200 hp bike would spend most of its time producing 25 to 30% of its power output.
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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2018, 09:05:59 am »


Iím not seeing the attraction of 200 hp  Headscratch


I'm with ya!  100 hp, 1000cc and under 500#s.
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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2018, 11:25:48 am »


Iím not seeing the attraction of 200 hp  Headscratch



Used to be a shop in my town with the name of Powertown.  Bigok Spent a lot of money there over the years. The owner, a strange but interesting fellow named Bernie, had a Kaw Z1. Bernie was on first name terms with Fujio Yoshimura and his Z1 embodied that relationship to the extreme according to his Dyno.
We used to say ďBernie, where the hell do you ride a bike with 135 HP? ď  Headscratch
Bernie would say, with his characteristic Slavic accent ...Ē Same place you guys ride with 100 hp, only itís more fun with a hunred terty fiveĒ

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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2018, 12:30:37 pm »


 It seems to me that a 200 hp bike would spend most of its time producing 25 to 30% of its power output.


Depends on where you live. Where I live and ride (WA, OR, ID, WY, NV, UT, etc)...it can be used. Burnout

FYI...I got a preliminary insurance quote and it was $50 a month, full coverage, not including any medical coverage (already have that covered).
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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2018, 12:34:02 pm »


Iím not seeing the attraction of 200 hp  Headscratch

Udo Geitl said in an interview that 100 hp is all you need on the street. He rode a Ducati Monster. I think Iíd rather ride a slow bike fast  Smile It seems to me that a 200 hp bike would spend most of its time producing 25 to 30% of its power output.


For 90-95% of our riding you are 100% correct. But I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
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« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2018, 10:23:40 am »


The appeal of this bike is the rather unique power delivery, amazing performance, all coupled with realistic Street ability and an old school Sport touring seating position. It is function over form and no doubt will rankle the current deciples of motorcycle styling. I quite like the pics. It smacks of a barely concealed, yet style suggested ... malevolence. It is rude looking. Like many Kaw bikes past.

This is not a Z14 with a pipe and a reflash. This is an honest to goodness game changer a la the class defining and changing VFR. But now, it will distort your vision, drain your green cred and thankfully, .... be ugly to many ... who simply donít understand the exercise. Bring it on.

I may own a used one two years hence.



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« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2018, 12:39:45 am »

The ZZR you ride, disqualifies your comment.  Lol

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« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2018, 12:18:21 pm »


The ZZR you ride, disqualifies your comment.  Lol




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Having finally ridden in the West last summer with the ZZRbikes gang I appreciate the usefulness of  1200 cc + sport touring bikes. While I dawdled at the back of the pack taking in the scenery on that trip, I can see the appeal of high HP bikes. If the West were my primary riding venue I'd certainly be looking at a ZX14R as a replacement for the ZZR. The price of an H2SX, even used, is likely to be unjustifiable. As it is, I'll probably be looking at Ninja 1K's or an ADV bike.
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« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2018, 10:08:42 am »


Iím not seeing the attraction of 200 hp  Headscratch

Udo Geitl said in an interview that 100 hp is all you need on the street. He rode a Ducati Monster. I think Iíd rather ride a slow bike fast  Smile It seems to me that a 200 hp bike would spend most of its time producing 25 to 30% of its power output.


Have you ever ridden a bike that accelerates with 20% throttle the way an FJR accelerates with full throttle, except without the noise, vibration or drama?  It's very fun, and why 200hp is appealing.
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« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2018, 01:46:55 pm »


Iím not seeing the attraction of 200 hp  Headscratch

Udo Geitl said in an interview that 100 hp is all you need on the street. He rode a Ducati Monster. I think Iíd rather ride a slow bike fast  :Smile:
It seems to me that a 200 hp bike would spend most of its time producing 25 to 30% of its power output.

I generally agree.   I'd be IMMENSELY more interested if they supercharge a 750-800.
The auto industry (most mfg's anyway) has learned the merits of boosting small & midsize engines with turbos.  Because of the power to weight difference, I don't think turbos are directly applicable to motorcycles (yea, yea, I know it's been done).
200 hp is boutique, novelty, not-really-practical (or affordable).
BTW; Sport-tourers weigh more than a Ducati monster, have wind-dragging weather protection and have a much higher gross weight limit.  Apples and pomegranates.
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« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2018, 03:03:02 pm »

Had the chance to sit on this at our local show. Going for 23 K CAD (street version) The Track version was somewhere in the 40K (CAD) range.  

Definitely more sport than touring, but seems comfortable enough. I am pretty sure I would not last long on it however. Cool looking in an origami sort of way.

 

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« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2018, 08:28:16 pm »

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