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« on: December 05, 2017, 06:06:16 pm »

I'll be putting this header system on in the next few days. I got it on sale so I like the lower outlay of green and the weight savings and HP increase I am looking forward to.

1. Stock it got 47 to 51 MPG on the road and had great torque. About 100 HP and 75 or so lb ft torque.
2. I modified the air box and installed a slip on exhaust(10 lbs lighter than stock). Great throttle response and more torque and HP. Still around 50 MPG.
3. I'm going to install the full exhaust and I should be getting at least 120 HP and well over 80 lb ft.

Since this is my day bike and I do all maintenance at home the centerstand will come off. I hope to be around thirty pounds lighter than stock.



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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 10:59:48 am »


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Just for you! I have an oil/filter change special for $79.95!!!
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Just for you! I have an oil/filter change special for $79.95!!!


Hey! Those are Swiss prices!!
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Post up the photos and I'll look into for you  Thumbsup


Bingo! It's working now!

And about those prices, not Swiss prices, my prices.   Smile
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2018, 03:33:05 pm »

I finally adjusted the suspension settings on the Bandit. I knew it was stiff but, WOW. With me on it and geared up it had 9/16" of sag. Nowhere near enough sag. After adjustments I ended up with the rear spring at the lowest point of preload and 1 3/8" sag. I softened the front also.

Rides much better now. Haven't taken it into the hills yet but I expect no reduction in handling.

My buddy sent me his AFR gauge and exhaust attachments so I will be checking AFR at idle, low load/low throttle, 85 MPH cruise and full throttle points. After these real world tests I will be able to make an informed decision on FI adjustments needed. The bike gets 50 MPG and runs much better than I expected it would before I bought it.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2018, 09:52:11 am »

Just installed a set of Sport Touring bars from Holeshot Performance on my 08. At least on the 08, they fit with the all teh stock wiring and plumbing. They are slightly taller and a much better bend. Makes the bike much more comfortable.  http://www.holeshot.com/accessories/holeshot/sport-touring-bars

I am also building a switched relay harness to power a couple things, heated grips and GPS for starters. Pics of that to follow.

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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2018, 10:10:15 am »

Good job. Have you done any "tuning" to your Bandit?
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2018, 10:22:00 am »


Good job. Have you done any "tuning" to your Bandit?


No and probably won’t, at least as far as the engine goes. Will probably upgrade/tune the suspension at some point.
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No and probably won’t, at least as far as the engine goes. Will probably upgrade/tune the suspension at some point.


As I posted above the suspension, after my adjustments, are much better and I don't have a problem now. The brakes are still not anywhere near as good as on my FJR.

I forgot to post two weeks ago that I changed the gearing. I put a 19 tooth(stock is 18) sprocket on the front. The only place I could find one was Sprocket Specialists in Utah. The back portion on the side cover support needed to be trimmed a bit and no problems at all now. Around town I feel no real difference in throttle response. On the freeway at my usual cruise speed of from 80 to 85 MPH I feel a bit less lunge. But not slow by any means. Curiously, the speedo and tachometer have not changed. The gearing now is 7% higher so I am not sure how the bike gets information to display. As much as the speedos are off from the factory I probably am going the speed that is being displayed anyway.
 
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As I posted above the suspension, after my adjustments, are much better and I don't have a problem now. The brakes are still not anywhere near as good as on my FJR.

I forgot to post two weeks ago that I changed the gearing. I put a 19 tooth(stock is 18) sprocket on the front. The only place I could find one was Sprocket Specialists in Utah. The back portion on the side cover support needed to be trimmed a bit and no problems at all now. Around town I feel no real difference in throttle response. On the freeway at my usual cruise speed of from 80 to 85 MPH I feel a bit less lunge. But not slow by any means. Curiously, the speedo and tachometer have not changed. The gearing now is 7% higher so I am not sure how the bike gets information to display. As much as the speedos are off from the factory I probably am going the speed that is being displayed anyway.
 


Have you tried Vesrah brake pads? Made a big difference on the 1200. Will put them on the 1250 at some point.

Use a GPS to verify speedo error. Mine is off by 8.34%. Have a speedo healer on the way from Holeshot.

Also have mirror standoffs coming.

My Zero Gravity ST screen arrived today, but did not have time to finish the install before work. I should have, but Mr. Murphy ( that *€£#*> ) visited my during the work and I wasted over an hour locating one if the little well nuts that the screen mounts with! Found it behind the right rear tire of the old car. No idea how it could have ended up there.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2018, 08:18:12 am »




Have you tried Vesrah brake pads? Made a big difference on the 1200. Will put them on the 1250 at some point.

Use a GPS to verify speedo error. Mine is off by 8.34%. Have a speedo healer on the way from Holeshot.

Also have mirror standoffs coming.

My Zero Gravity ST screen arrived today, but did not have time to finish the install before work. I should have, but Mr. Murphy ( that *€£#*> ) visited my during the work and I wasted over an hour locating one if the little well nuts that the screen mounts with! Found it behind the right rear tire of the old car. No idea how it could have ended up there.


Brakes- they are OK just have to use more effort to stop as well. When it's time I will look at options and Vesrah sounds good.

If the speedo is off that much, which I believe, then the 7% gearing increase puts me in the ballgame for accuracy. A couple of months ago when I removed the airbox cover one of the four screws disappeared! I checked everywhere and moved things out of the garage looking for it. I got the Gkids out and asked them if they touched anything. A week later when mowing the lawn I found it in the middle of the grass???????????

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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2018, 09:50:08 am »

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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2018, 12:17:00 pm »

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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2018, 12:48:43 pm »

A short test ride this morning was positive. There may be a slight bit more wind noise ( only took it up to 55 ) at my helmet, but I wear ear plugs when I ride so that is of no concern. No buffeting and no more wind blast to the chest.
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Curiously, the speedo and tachometer have not changed. The gearing now is 7% higher so I am not sure how the bike gets information to display. As much as the speedos are off from the factory I probably am going the speed that is being displayed anyway.
 


They won’t change. The speedo gets its signal from a hall effect sensor at the end of the countershaft. The are still spinning at the same rate they were before. The change is in the final drive ratio. I changed the gearing on my 02 from 15/45 to 15/43 and the speedo was just about dead on. For the 1250, I am going to use a Speedohealer. This way, no matter what I may do with gearing in the future I can have a correct speedo.
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A short test ride this morning was positive. There may be a slight bit more wind noise ( only took it up to 55 ) at my helmet, but I wear ear plugs when I ride so that is of no concern. No buffeting and no more wind blast to the chest.


Good job on the windshield. Tell me how a Speedohealer works??????? Obviously, it gets the true speed by GPS but how does it change the speedo?
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Good job on the windshield. Tell me how a Speedohealer works??????? Obviously, it gets the true speed by GPS but how does it change the speedo?


They do not use GPS. They plug in inline with the signal wires from the hall-effect sensor that reads pulses off the trigger, that funky little square thing you have to remove to get the counter shaft sprocket off. What it does is change the pulse rate to to the speedo. You do a little math; ((actual speed / indicated speed)- 1 ) * 100. This gives you the % number to program into the unit. Took longer to type this than it did to program it.  Smile

Installed it today (got it here - http://www.holeshot.com/accessories/speed-healer )

The little red button you see in the foreground is actually a remote button you can run up to teh bars. Pressing it causes teh speedo to displays your highest speed. Lol


Also installed Mirror extensions ( http://www.holeshot.com/suzuki/bandit/650-1250/products/holeshot-mirror-extensions )
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With extension


Swapped out the nasty air filter with a K&N unit (Speedwerks, Dover, DE)
The filter looks kind of dirty in the pic, but it is brand new out of the box.  Crazy



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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2018, 10:11:52 am »

I'll have to do a bit more serious thinking on getting one of those Speedothingies.

Please tell me you did the Dale Walker stage 1 air box mod. You will not be disappointed. Free HP everywhere in the RPM band.


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