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« on: January 20, 2018, 04:25:50 pm »

"Our records indicate you purchased a 2014 Yamaha FZ-09 motorcycle and subsequently contacted Yamaha or one of its dealers about the motorcycle throttle response or acceleration and/or had a dealer remap the motorcycle's ECU to modify the throttle response as outlined in Yamaha Technical Service Bulletin M2014-013.

As a result of a lawsuit pending in Texas involving allegations concerning the 2104 FZ-09 motorcycle and its throttle response, we are writing you to gather more detailed information about what led you to contact Yamaha or one of its dealers."

Curious. I though the throttle response was touchy, but not that bad.
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2018, 09:10:37 pm »

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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2018, 07:50:26 am »

In 08 I got a recall for the TPS on the FJR. Changing it did make a difference but  not enough to sue Yamaha.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2018, 08:35:12 am »

I have had a few Yamaha’s

Junk compared to the other Japanese brands.  Yamaha has always let me down.  
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2018, 10:50:34 am »


I have had a few Yamaha’s

Junk compared to the other Japanese brands.  Yamaha has always let me down.  


OK, now you are stepping on my shoes. Me and you have big problems.

In my much younger days I motocrossed and beat on many Yamaha dirt bikes. Never a problem. But I think we here are talking about a different time/bike type here. My 2005 FJR1300 I beat on for 70,000 miles. Never a problem and didn't miss a beat. My 2012 FJR1300(purchased new in 2014) now has 44,000 miles and hasn't missed a beat.

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2018, 11:36:29 am »


I have had a few Yamaha’s

Junk compared to the other Japanese brands.  Yamaha has always let me down.  


The reliability ratings are based on failure rates for 4-year-old bikes:

    Yamaha/Star (11 percent failure rate)
    Suzuki and Honda (12 percent)
    Kawasaki (15 percent)
    Victory (17 percent)
    Harley-Davidson (26 percent)
    Triumph (29 percent)
    Ducati (33 percent)
    BMW (40 percent)[/li]

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2018, 11:42:21 am »




The reliability ratings are based on failure rates for 4-year-old bikes:

    Yamaha/Star (11 percent failure rate)
    Suzuki and Honda (12 percent)
    Kawasaki (15 percent)
    Victory (17 percent)
    Harley-Davidson (26 percent)
    Triumph (29 percent)
    Ducati (33 percent)
    BMW (40 percent)[/li]


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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2018, 10:59:11 pm »


I have had a few Yamaha’s

Junk compared to the other Japanese brands.  Yamaha has always let me down.  


Seriously, how many bikes have you owned? I'm somewhere past 40 bikes, and have had the least trouble with Yamaha (9 currently), and the most with Honda (but I still have 6). I think I have 20 bikes right now, and I will always trust a Yamaha first. But I love Guzzi most! LOL
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2018, 11:05:30 pm »


"Our records indicate you purchased a 2014 Yamaha FZ-09 motorcycle and subsequently contacted Yamaha or one of its dealers about the motorcycle throttle response or acceleration and/or had a dealer remap the motorcycle's ECU to modify the throttle response as outlined in Yamaha Technical Service Bulletin M2014-013.

As a result of a lawsuit pending in Texas involving allegations concerning the 2104 FZ-09 motorcycle and its throttle response, we are writing you to gather more detailed information about what led you to contact Yamaha or one of its dealers."

Curious. I though the throttle response was touchy, but not that bad.


 I rode a few of the FZ09s the first and second  year, and the FJ09, and concluded the complaints about the throttle were from a bunch of ham-fisted neanderthals with zero finesse to their control inputs. Seriously, I adapted to the throttle in 10 feet, and shifted smoothly with no problems. The throttle was a non-issue. I hope this lawsuit fizzles quick!
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 12:19:26 pm »




The reliability ratings are based on failure rates for 4-year-old bikes:

    Yamaha/Star (11 percent failure rate)
    Suzuki and Honda (12 percent)
    Kawasaki (15 percent)
    Victory (17 percent)
    Harley-Davidson (26 percent)
    Triumph (29 percent)
    Ducati (33 percent)
    BMW (40 percent)[/li]


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And how many of those failures were due to lack of proper maintance.  
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 12:42:50 pm »

What constitutes a failure?
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2018, 09:50:24 pm »




And how many of those failures were due to lack of proper maintance.  


Japan bikes need oil changes and that’s about it.  Run the hell out of them and they can take the abuse.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2018, 10:02:26 pm »



I rode a few of the FZ09s the first and second  year, and the FJ09, and concluded the complaints about the throttle were from a bunch of ham-fisted neanderthals with zero finesse to their control inputs. Seriously, I adapted to the throttle in 10 feet, and shifted smoothly with no problems. The throttle was a non-issue.


I have a 2015 FJ-09 and I thought the throttle was just a little touchy but like you said, I adapted in 10 feet. I would've never even thought it was an issue if I hadn't read about it.

Regarding having trouble with Yamahas: I've had two recalls, two leaky fork seals, and a broken clutch cable all within the first 10,000 miles. Since getting all that worked out, I haven't had any trouble of any kind. I just turned 25,000 miles Saturday. All that being said, this is the most fun streetbike I've ever had, by far.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2018, 10:26:19 pm »

I have had several YZ dirt bikes and I had a SECA II back in the day

I certainly learned a lot about bike maintenance with these maintenance hogs as I like to call them.   The bikes were at least good for that.  Lol
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2018, 07:34:32 am »




 I rode a few of the FZ09s the first and second  year, and the FJ09, and concluded the complaints about the throttle were from a bunch of ham-fisted neanderthals with zero finesse to their control inputs. Seriously, I adapted to the throttle in 10 feet, and shifted smoothly with no problems. The throttle was a non-issue. I hope this lawsuit fizzles quick!


I had mine for about a year and sold it. Bought a Triumph Tiger 800 XC (IMHO a much, much, much better design) in its place. The FZ's throttle was abrupt in the "A" mode. For me the "A" stood for annoying. Depending on the gear a simple sneeze would lift the front wheel. While this might be really great if you're 17 years old I found it tiring. I sent the ECU to a Yamaha race bike tuner to do the remapping and that helped a lot. But still it was a very nervous bike with a really lousy suspension. It did have a great sound though.
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2018, 11:25:14 am »

You boys love the FZ’s

Must be something to loving this bike  Thumbsup

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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2018, 10:28:30 am »

I was amazed at how quick the FZ-09 I test rode was. Throttle response was inexcusable though, in this day and age of sue-happy snowflakes this doesn't surprise me at all.
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The reliability ratings are based on failure rates for 4-year-old bikes:

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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2018, 06:48:19 pm »

My 2004 Honda ST1300 has never given me any issues and I just broke 90,000 miles yesterday. . I wonder if those stats are based on defects, lack of proper maintenance, or a combination.  My 04 F4i got its first tune up and air filter change at almost 30,000 miles( I bought it at 26,000).   Camera phone makes the electronic readouts look funny. . . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180607/a22af39d3f45c89a77522803f12f5d86.jpg

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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2018, 12:04:13 am »

Test rode one last Saturday, and if that's poor throttle response I'm all for it. I never left the standard mode and was impressed with the machine. Unless they brought perfectly tuned bikes as demos its manners were fine, well behaved unless you told it to go hooligan and then it felt like a 100 HP dirt bike, which I liked. I think it may be my next ride!

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