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« on: May 20, 2018, 12:25:54 pm »

I've got a CBR500R I'm setting up for super-touring. I've upgraded the windshield, which helped smooth out the airflow to my helmet.

Added a Beadrider saddle cover to prevent numb bum and swamp ass.

I've got a 12L tank bag (bigger will trap my wrists in low speed maneuvers) and a 24 L tail bag.

Next I think should be a prop stick to ease chain maintenance and a throttle lock and Heli Bar$.

What have you guys done before you went to a big comfortable bike? What makes the biggest difference with the least expenditure?
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2018, 03:48:07 pm »


What makes the biggest difference with the least expenditure?


A really good seat and sorting out the ergonomics to fit you (cheap bar risers if needed).

A quiet, comfy helmet plus the best ear plugs you can find to cut down on noise (causes fatigue). And good versatile gear to stay comfy in all weather.

Personally, I like naked bikes and clean air that can get to the vents in my jacket, but if you're the big windscreen type, get one that doesn't beat you up with buffeting or noise.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2018, 06:50:11 pm »

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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2018, 09:16:58 pm »



A really good seat and sorting out the ergonomics to fit you (cheap bar risers if needed).

I've got the Beadrider on top of a decently shaped stock seat. That'll do for now.

Bar risers are next, I think. Heli Bars are $230 or something though; that's gonna have to wait, or I'll have to find cheaper ones that still have the brake line extension.

I think I'll bungee my big dry bag to the back instead of the much smaller tail bag.
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2018, 12:14:26 am »

Looks like there may be some center stand options in place of the prop stick for not crazy money. Also, if you're not a member at http://www.cbr500riders.com/forum/ consider joining. Lots of good info there. My son had a CBR500R for a couple seasons.

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2018, 06:45:52 am »

Roger Roger.

Yep, I'm a member at cbr500riders.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2018, 01:02:47 am »

Here was my touring setup with my F4i before I bought a sport tourer. . .and some side by side pics with my ST1300.  Both are 2004 models.

Add ons to F4i:
GPR4 stabilizer
SW Motech side carriers w/47l locking panniers
Corbin 2 piece seat w/ detachable passenger back rest
Garmin Zumo 550 GPS
Cramp buster
Euro style centrestand
Denali led auxilliary lights

The F4i has higher handlebars than the RR series so it was pretty comfortable for me.  For perspective, I'm 6'3" 207lbs.  Longest trip in a single day was 360 miles on a group ride.  The Corbin seats are firm, but better than stock. .also wider.   

Longest trip in a day so far on my ST is 660 miles. . .https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/0bb7e4fec3e57ae32938596677b3bfcd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/738f33a9080f4524978627063ff45a6c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/77f8519e3088c5f3e45508afde8acc89.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/2a8e41078086929fbb4dea544e3213d5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/d83193c39d74733fbd28474d67d29f3b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/dd8137f72f62d15590966177bb9ede94.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/a70f6c2e2fb9fc0f61f2314536893926.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/b4f16e6d1ae8fea94e33f248c82efe2e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/1e743d43b7c9647741ddae2c43a978db.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/851dd8ba5ea1d678e05ecf7e332245e2.jpg

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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2018, 01:05:55 am »

And Taylor33 rim tape from Ebay. . . .just because. . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/a37dac5d178d700ae5b9781fb6b4e31c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/955e5062814304f9304e6142ca6abfb5.jpg

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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2018, 03:28:23 pm »

Oh no

Oh My

Holy Jesus

Please say it isn’t so?

You didn’t ?   You could not have?

You didn’t possibly do this to a very beautiful Honda CBR 600?

I’m gonna have to hurl.  


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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2018, 04:31:10 pm »

Did you at least do your due diligence and deliver meals to the needy with those (Meals on Wheels) boxes ?

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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2018, 04:34:12 pm »


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Those Givis look great on that little bike!
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2018, 05:50:02 pm »

Did you at least do your due diligence and deliver meals to the needy with those (Meals on Wheels) boxes ?

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Side racks remove with 3, quarter turn screws . . As you can see in the last 2 pictures, the mounting points are hidden. . . I was riding 7,000 to 9,000 miles a year(no commuting miles), so I made my choices and stand by them:)  I didn't want soft bags and liked the option of locking bags.  Definitely more expensive though. . . Got deals on the panniers and side carriers, but was still over $900. . . .no meal deliveries, but I did do some grocery runs.  Can fit 3 gallons of milk in each pannier😁 and alot more fun than driving my suburban. . .

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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2018, 05:51:38 pm »

Did you at least do your due diligence and deliver meals to the needy with those (Meals on Wheels) boxes ?

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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2018, 06:23:20 pm »

I've set up our white 2014 CB500X for touring. Givi touring windshield that I trimmed down, a 12V power port and GPS ball mount, heated gear power port, center stand, Barkbuster Storm handguards, Vista-cruise throttle lock, Air Hawk seat pad, home-made luggage rack with a locking top box. We have used soft saddlebags and big dry bags strapped on the passenger seat. Have several tank bags that will work but not used much (wife doesn't like them on her tank between her arms for some reason, her choice).

It's been in 14 different states, on multiple trips to Texas, Colorado, Arkansas, and a trip to the BRP and back as my wife's primary touring bike for a little over two years.

Last year we upgraded her bike to an FJ09. It has been set up similar with the same type throttle lock, heated gear power port, center stand, luggage rack and large top box that will fit a FF helmet and jacket/gloves. We use the same soft luggage or dry bags on multiple bikes.
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2018, 06:34:43 pm »


What's your ride?

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Had a F4 600 and also a 600rr prior to jumping up to the mighty ZX14

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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2018, 08:39:41 pm »



Had a F4 600 and also a 600rr prior to jumping up to the mighty ZX14
Nice. . . My 1st was a 94 f2, then my 04 F4i, and now my 04 ST1300.  I've wanted and an ST1300 since I got my first CBR back in 07, but couldn't justify $15,000 for a toy.  So, a couple of years ago I was able to get a used one with upgrades for $3,500.  Worth the wait for sure.  Comfort, speed, ease of maintenance.  I'll be able to put at least 200,000 miles on this before needing to look for a new ride.  Tail of the dragon was a blast last summer. . .https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180524/09b590f2562a9d4118716c0a2529795b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180524/e903be23d4a0bfcd39e9754836dec9cd.jpg

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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2018, 09:02:30 pm »

You can’t beat the F series Honda 600’s

Realiable, fun and you could still tour or set them up for long distance sport touring.   The 600RR (not as much)

I like the high reving Motor on the 600’s
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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2018, 08:38:11 pm »

Oh no

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Holy Jesus

Please say it isn’t so?

You didn’t ?   You could not have?

You didn’t possibly do this to a very beautiful Honda CBR 600?

I’m gonna have to hurl. 


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+1. Those aftermarket hard bags just hanging way out in the breeze... Yuck. That's one place factory bags are better, especially well-integrated ones like on the ST1300 or PC800 or Goldwing.

I'm looking for something a bit slicker than that, but thanks for the post anyway. Some of those other things are definitely worth doing.
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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2018, 08:48:53 pm »


+1. Those aftermarket hard bags just hanging way out in the breeze... Yuck. That's one place factory bags are better, especially well-integrated ones like on the ST1300 or PC800 or Goldwing.

I'm looking for something a bit slicker than that, but thanks for the post anyway. Some of those other things are definitely worth doing.


I’m not a fan of “Meals on Wheels” boxes on a motorcycle...   unless you are actually delivering meals on wheels to the needy.
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« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2018, 10:39:00 pm »

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I’m not a fan of “Meals on Wheels” boxes on a motorcycle...   unless you are actually delivering meals on wheels to the needy.

I think it's an ADV thing.
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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2018, 11:36:04 pm »

+1. Those aftermarket hard bags just hanging way out in the breeze... Yuck. That's one place factory bags are better, especially well-integrated ones like on the ST1300 or PC800 or Goldwing.

I'm looking for something a bit slicker than that, but thanks for the post anyway. Some of those other things are definitely worth doing.
I wanted an ST1300 originally but it was too much$$$$, so I turned my F4i into a tourer of sorts.  I was able to get a used ST1300 for a good deal  with plenty of extras and sold my F4i since I wasn't using it.

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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2018, 02:14:19 pm »


I think it's an ADV thing.


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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2018, 09:20:22 pm »



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Yes, those exact panniers come stock on the V-Strom 1000.

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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2018, 01:52:07 pm »

Gonna get some foam grips to put over the rubber. That is kind of a cheap stopgap alternative to Heli Bars. A bit of extra diameter will help with wrist fatique.

I have a throttle rocker and a throttle lock; gonna fit those up too.

I have 3 tail bag options:

1. Smallish-but-clean Nelson-Rigg CL-1060-S tail bag (https://www.nelsonrigg.com/luggage/cl-series/sport-tail-seat-bag-detail.html)  Pretty small, I'd have to pack VERY light to make a 5-7 day trip with that.

2. Dry duffel bag bungeed to the back. This is twice as big, but ugly and messy.

3. Backpack

Any of those would go with a Cortech Super 2.0 magnetic tank bag.

I'm thinking maybe Option 1 for 3-4 day trips, Option 2 for 4-7 day trips. Maybe Options 2 and 3 (one of those thin, packable backpacks) for longer and pack REALLY light.

The killer is the extra stuff I have to bring  that I wouldn't need when riding locally. Decent rain pants are pretty bulky, flip flops too. Chain lube, bug spray, sun hat. Doesn't leave much room for extra clothes.

Speaking of which, what do you pack for a 4-5 day trip, clothes wise? (not including riding gear)

I'm thinking maybe:

- One extra set of pants
- Underwear for every day, plus one extra
- Socks for every day, plus one extra
- shirts for every day
- flip-flops for when I get there
- shorts for when I get there.
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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2018, 02:35:19 pm »

RE: ^^^ If packing space is really an issue,
pack half as much clothing and do laundry
at some mid-point. It’s easier than it sounds.
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I'm thinking maybe Option 1 for 3-4 day trips, Option 2 for 4-7 day trips. Maybe Options 2 and 3 (one of those thin, packable backpacks) for longer and pack REALLY light.

The killer is the extra stuff I have to bring  that I wouldn't need when riding locally. Decent rain pants are pretty bulky, flip flops too. Chain lube, bug spray, sun hat. Doesn't leave much room for extra clothes.

Speaking of which, what do you pack for a 4-5 day trip, clothes wise? (not including riding gear)

I'm thinking maybe:

- One extra set of pants
- Underwear for every day, plus one extra
- Socks for every day, plus one extra
- shirts for every day
- flip-flops for when I get there
- shorts for when I get there.


You have pointed out, very well,  the issues related to a "small" sport-touring bike. One not set-up from the factory as a ST bike.  
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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2018, 02:57:30 pm »

RE: ^^^ If packing space is really an issue,
pack half as much clothing and do laundry
at some mid-point. It’s easier than it sounds.
I have never thought of that, good one!
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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2018, 06:23:16 pm »

I'm gonna give you the best tip I can think of. Go to ride reports and search for anything by Daniel Kalal.

This guy is a pro at efficiency packing for long distance travel. He has explained his process of packing and what he takes in a couple of reports. He does it all with a small tool pouch he straps to the handle bars and a dry bag strapped to the back seat.
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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2018, 10:25:41 pm »

I'll check it out; thanks!
I'm gonna give you the best tip I can think of. Go to ride reports and search for anything by Daniel Kalal.

This guy is a pro at efficiency packing for long distance travel. He has explained his process of packing and what he takes in a couple of reports. He does it all with a small tool pouch he straps to the handle bars and a dry bag strapped to the back seat.
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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2018, 08:07:16 pm »

I'm AGATT, I buy cheap socks, shorts and t shirts. i just throw them away every other day. You don't have to bring any clothes that way, or carry that funky shit either. I can go 3 weeks on $50 worth. if you run out stop and buy more
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« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2018, 04:46:44 pm »

it is a practicality thing. A locking top case provides a proper place to carry things, store your rain gear, mount your EZPass and a number of other things. They just flat out make sense.
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« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2018, 04:49:45 pm »


Gonna get some foam grips to put over the rubber. That is kind of a cheap stopgap alternative to Heli Bars. A bit of extra diameter will help with wrist fatique.




If you plan to ride in the cold, just do what I did. I installed Oxford Hot Hand grip warps. Used to use Grip Puppies (foam grip covers) but now I just leave the hot hands wraps on all year. The increase grip diameter and dampen vibration; not that the Bandit vibes much.
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« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2018, 11:41:53 am »

I found a Givi rack that will work for my existing Bestem topcase and costs half as much as the SW Motech one.

Then, either the dry duffel or tail bag behind me on the passenger seat.

12 L tank bag and I should be good to go, while keeping the luggage mostly out of the (forward) airstream. Buffeting will go up, but fuel economy should stay about the same.
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« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2018, 02:43:25 pm »


I found a Givi rack that will work for my existing Bestem topcase and costs half as much as the SW Motech one.


Brand?  Source?
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Brand?  Source?


Brand of the rack is Givi, source is revzilla

Brand of the top box is Bestem, source is Bestem, Amazon or ebay.
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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2018, 02:09:47 pm »

Update: I put the GO CRUISE throttle lock on for a 1200 mile trip this past weekend. Made a huge difference in overall comfort and no wrist discomfort for days afterwards, like on my previous trip.

OEM rear tire is about shot, but I suppose that's not bad, considering it's a sport tire and has 6k miles. Gonna look into an Avon or Michelin replacement.

I averaged 74 mpg on that trip.
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