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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2018, 07:57:12 am »


I’m still trying to figure out ....

Is Guzzi pronounced with a T or not  Lol

Guttzi


We’ve had this discussion before. Pay attention.
It’s pronounced “Goot Zee”. Sheesh.
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2018, 12:49:27 pm »




We’ve had this discussion before. Pay attention.
It’s pronounced “Goot Zee”. Sheesh.


Just like Peet Zah
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2018, 12:53:44 pm »




We’ve had this discussion before. Pay attention.
It’s pronounced “Goot Zee”. Sheesh.


I don’t see a T in there anywhere.  It’s Gooozie to me  Lol
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2018, 01:58:42 pm »

This is so familiar, yes, I think we've had this exact conversation before.
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2018, 02:08:30 pm »

I do agree with you.  The Moto Goozie is not Ugly.  
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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2018, 02:41:27 pm »

It's kinda cool looking actually. But the bags are a joke, as is the rear subframe and seat. The realistic/production level version of this is already being made....

https://i.imgur.com/PchiTNx.jpg

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/052918top-i.jpg
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2018, 07:33:00 pm »

To paraphrase Pete Roper, "When you're riding a Guzzi, you know you're riding a real motorbike. Not some sits down to pee hairdryer with a wheel at each end".   Bigsmile

I would only recommend an experienced rider that is accomplished at wrenching his own bikes to own a Guzzi. Not a beginners bike.
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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2018, 09:03:49 pm »


It's kinda cool looking actually. But the bags are a joke, as is the rear subframe and seat. The realistic/production level version of this is already being made....

https://i.imgur.com/PchiTNx.jpg

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/052918top-i.jpg


It’s not as sexy as the Top Gun Kawasaki GPZ (with military insignia)

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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2018, 08:48:23 pm »

To paraphrase Pete Roper, "When you're riding a Guzzi, you know you're riding a real motorbike. Not some sits down to pee hairdryer with a wheel at each end".   Bigsmile

I would only recommend an experienced rider that is accomplished at wrenching his own bikes to own a Guzzi. Not a beginners bike.
That is an acknowledgement that Guzzi owners will NEED to wrench on their own bike.

I don't get why that is such an attractive proposition, when you're about to embark on a 1500 mile road trip. Is it fun for Guzzi owners to be stranded or something? 🤔
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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2018, 01:19:51 am »


That is an acknowledgement that Guzzi owners will NEED to wrench on their own bike.

I don't get why that is such an attractive proposition, when you're about to embark on a 1500 mile road trip. Is it fun for Guzzi owners to be stranded or something? 🤔


 It's bullshit. You don't need to wrench on Guzzis...but you can set your own valves in 15 minutes. Oil change is a piece of cake. They lend themselves to DIY rather than always going to a dealer. Intelligent design. Actually quite reliable, as compared to say
 a Honda.
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« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2018, 08:03:50 am »


That is an acknowledgement that Guzzi owners will NEED to wrench on their own bike.

I don't get why that is such an attractive proposition, when you're about to embark on a 1500 mile road trip. Is it fun for Guzzi owners to be stranded or something? 🤔


All bikes require maintenance, Guzzi dealer network requires you to do it yourself.
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« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2018, 08:57:14 am »




All bikes require maintenance, Guzzi dealer network requires you to do it yourself.


My Guzzi only stranded me once (in hindsight it was probably MY fault) and I was 5 miles from the shop.  Not bad considering I lived 25 miles away.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one.  As close to a modern Airhead as you can buy today.
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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2018, 11:51:21 am »




My Guzzi only stranded me once (in hindsight it was probably MY fault) and I was 5 miles from the shop.  Not bad considering I lived 25 miles away.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one.  As close to a modern Airhead as you can buy today.


You should have remembered to put some gas in her  Lol
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« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2018, 12:13:52 pm »




 It's bullshit. You don't need to wrench on Guzzis...but you can set your own valves in 15 minutes. Oil change is a piece of cake.


Well, as long as we're calling BS on each other, I call BS on setting valves in 15 minutes. On ANY bike.

Yes, it may be faster with exposed heads and with the old jamb nut system, but it does take longer than 15 minutes and is required a lot more frequently.



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They lend themselves to DIY rather than always going to a dealer. Intelligent design. Actually quite reliable, as compared to say
 a Honda.


Oh, Guzzis are more reliable than Hondas now? I'm afraid you've lost all credibility with that statement, especially right after the earlier posts about electrics not being weather proof and wearing out regularly well before they should.

I understand they're nice bikes, with CHARACTER and a certain style to them. But the Guzzi owners here seem to just downplay the problems they've had (even being stranded) and forget that it wouldn't have happened on a similar Jap bike. If you're willing to pay that price, fine. But don't downplay it.
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« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2018, 01:42:26 pm »

 First I'm a millwright, so I know my way around tools. I timed it. It was 15 minutes on my Stelvio, no shit. YMMV.
 I am saying as reliable as Hondas no more. But I have had plenty of Honda problems, so statistically for me, Guzzi has been better. BTW, I wasn't the one with the Guzzi troubles...that was someone else.
 I have 20 bikes...owned 40 a least. Had to  ride 2 km in first gear on my Lemans once. Never been stranded by a Guzzi. I have been stranded by Hondas...and my RZ. Cam chain tensioner and stators on Hondas.
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Well, as long as we're calling BS on each other, I call BS on setting valves in 15 minutes. On ANY bike.

Yes, it may be faster with exposed heads and with the old jamb nut system, but it does take longer than 15 minutes and is required a lot more frequently.




Oh, Guzzis are more reliable than Hondas now? I'm afraid you've lost all credibility with that statement, especially right after the earlier posts about electrics not being weather proof and wearing out regularly well before they should.

I understand they're nice bikes, with CHARACTER and a certain style to them. But the Guzzi owners here seem to just downplay the problems they've had (even being stranded) and forget that it wouldn't have happened on a similar Jap bike. If you're willing to pay that price, fine. But don't downplay it.


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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2018, 07:23:05 pm »

On a Guzzi,  put it on the center stand and shift it up to top gear. pull off the valve covers and spark plugs. Drop a straw down into the left cylinder  and rotate the back wheel till the piston is at the top and both rockers are loose. Set the exhaust at .006 and the intake at .004 with the screw and locknut. Move to the other side and repeat process, finding TDC on that side of course. Put the covers and plugs back on and you're all done. Recommend it be done every 6250 miles. I was slow and it would take me 1/2 an hour with a couple beers.
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« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2018, 10:32:36 pm »




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« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2018, 10:41:47 pm »


On a Guzzi,  put it on the center stand and shift it up to top gear. pull off the valve covers and spark plugs. Drop a straw down into the left cylinder  and rotate the back wheel till the piston is at the top and both rockers are loose. Set the exhaust at .006 and the intake at .004 with the screw and locknut. Move to the other side and repeat process, finding TDC on that side of course. Put the covers and plugs back on and you're all done. Recommend it be done every 6250 miles. I was slow and it would take me 1/2 an hour with a couple beers.


 Exactly. The day I did my Stelvio, I was in a hurry, so 15 minutes. Normally I would have a beer and take maybe  20 casual minutes, but the Stelvio is exceptionally easy/ accessible. . I use the straw method myself. More like 15-20K km intervals for me.
 
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« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2018, 12:03:30 am »

Checking or setting valves every 6250 is for chumps.

Every 6250 miles on my Honda, I just change the oil. No need to jerk around with valves.

I guess you make up for it with lack of chain maintenance though... I have to admit that chain maintenance is ALSO for chumps.

What's the recommended maintenance interval on the splines of a Guzzi shaft? Every you're change is fair, I guess. Final drive oil?
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