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« on: July 08, 2019, 03:39:16 am »

I'm going to take a trip around late August, early September, and I'm debating doing my first SS1K during this trip.  I'm thinking one way from SoCal to NE CO.

The furthest I've ever ridden in one day was about 400 miles, and I took my time doing it (approximately 6hrs I think...).  I'm not sure if I want to use the whole 24hrs by breaking up the run into two large 8hr chunks, with a longer nap in between, or try for just a straight shot (roughly 16hrs).  I'm leaning towards the two chunks method.  I really hate riding at night, so if I did the two chunks method, I'd be leaving a little later in the morning to give myself more daylight on the back end (after the nap).

Anyone with experience have a preference?  And why?  Any other strategies?

As far as the nap, I was initially thinking about sleeping at a rest stop, as long as it's got a toilet, but I'm not sure about the safety of it, especially as I approach bear country.  Probably just going to grab a motel as close as possible to the freeway.

Any other tips appreciated as well!

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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2019, 05:17:07 am »

Every 1,000+ day I had involved highway (Interstate) driving.  Only exception was San Francisco to LA on US-1, but on that day I went into Arizona and got lost (missed my planned turn...didn’t have GPS then), so it was a lot of time in the saddle.
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2019, 07:56:34 am »

If you are going to do a 1,000 mile day just to say you've done it then I say do it the easiest way and get it over with. From Barstow to Gallup, NM is about 530 miles of all interstate. Many places to gas up and get a bite to eat. Has a great rest area about forty miles east of Flagstaff. Cruise at 80 + and gas up every 200 miles or so and BINGO! Easy.    Bigok

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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2019, 10:10:30 am »

My first IB Bun Burner was done in a group of 5 motorcycles.  We stopped so often, I didn't see how we could finish on time.  Gas stops.  Bathroom breaks.  Stop for rain gear.  Stop to remove rain gear.  Every stop was extended for one more cigarette before getting back underway.  I wasn't the organizer/leader, so I followed along without many complaints, but I was frustrated and impatient.  We left at 8 am and rode about 850 miles before a motel stay of 6 hours.  The next day we rode the same distance back hitting the 1500 mile mark and getting a witness statement along the way.  

While I was frustrated at the number and length of breaks, I think it worked out well.  My ass would have been much more sore if I were setting the pace.  

All that is just the basis of my advice to you.  

When you stop for gas, take a few extra minutes out of the saddle for your ass to breathe.  Even if you think you don't need it, it will delay the pain of a long day.  I like a long first leg and a significant nap.  I have slept at a rest stop but didn't really get much sleep.  A motel is a lot better.  Knowing the second leg is shorter is better mentally when starting out after a break.

I don't like to rely on caffeine.  I drink a cup of coffee, but never an energy drink.  The crash after the high can be too much.  It is possible to fall asleep riding a motorcycle.  


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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2019, 10:25:06 am »

SS1K doesn't need to be over thought. Have your route and your start and end. Know your fuel range. Ride until tired (but try to make it through 2 tanks of gas as a minimum if you can do it safely). Then rinse and repeat until the end. Don't plan a break because you might not need one at the designated stop you planned ahead for. Instead stop when you need to so you you're safe and you might find 2 stops in the last 100 miles are better than a fixed one planned at the halfway mark that may not be necessary.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2019, 12:08:35 pm »

I just completed my first *official* SS1000.

I left at 4:30 AM CST so the night riding was in my local area, sun was up at 5:30.   I stopped only for gas, and had 7 receipts total including the Start and End.  Could have been fewer fuel stops as my bike has a 250+ mile range, but extra fuel stops were required due to the "corners" on my route.    I had a water tank on my bike, and Cliff bars in my tank bag, so I didn't even buy anything at the gas stations, other than fuel.   Ate 2 or 3 cliff bars during the ride, and that's it --- and not during the stops - only while moving.   No Potty breaks, other than at the Fuel Stops.  Gore-Tex gear, so no stops for rain gear.   Didn't plan the fuel stops, since it was mostly all freeway and fuel is on virtually every exit.    Rode from MN to Des Moines, Kansas City, then across Kansas down to Colorado Springs, and back up the I-25 (Traffic was horrible w/ torrential rain = Stop and Go) through Denver ending at a hotel in Greeley, CO.   Despite traffic & weather between Springs and Denver, finished at 7:30 MT (8:30PM CST).   16 hours flat, including all stops...

Don't break it up.   Just get moving, don't stop for anything other than fuel, and enjoy a late evening dinner and a cold beer when you get there.   Easy Peasy.


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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2019, 03:11:08 pm »

If you are going to do a 1,000 mile day just to say you've done it then I say do it the easiest way and get it over with. From Barstow to Gallup, NM is about 530 miles of all interstate. Many places to gas up and get a bite to eat. Has a great rest area about forty miles east of Flagstaff. Cruise at 80 + and gas up every 200 miles or so and BINGO! Easy.    Bigok

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I will definitely take that route into consideration!

I want to spend Labor Day weekend running roads in the Rockies, I just happened to notice there was the potential I could knock out a SS1K on the way out there as I started planning the trip.   If my wife decides she wants to join me, then I'll probably end up towing one of the bikes out there and we'll head out that way a little more leisurely.  We'll have the option of sleeping in the SUV as well.  The Magna nor the Interceptor aren't really suited for riding 2up for that kind of distance.

If I end up doing your suggested route, I'll be sure to post a meetup date/time for anyone else interested in tagging along.

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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2019, 07:44:57 pm »

I'm with Bounce and Naustin. Don't stop. Get it over with. Heck, I've worked eighteen hour days before.

I've shared in the past that I went 840 miles in twelve hours. 70 MPH average including gas stops. I could have easily gone 1,000 miles that particular ride.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2019, 07:46:01 pm »


I will definitely take that route into consideration!

I want to spend Labor Day weekend running roads in the Rockies, I just happened to notice there was the potential I could knock out a SS1K on the way out there as I started planning the trip.   If my wife decides she wants to join me, then I'll probably end up towing one of the bikes out there and we'll head out that way a little more leisurely.  We'll have the option of sleeping in the SUV as well.  The Magna nor the Interceptor aren't really suited for riding 2up for that kind of distance.

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If you go my suggested route let me know because Gallup is two hours from home!
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2019, 09:33:56 pm »

I like the idea of the six hour motel stop instead of riding straight through. I never even thought of that, I always just figured everyone rode it out. I think maybe I could do it now. I will seriously consider trying it this fall.
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2019, 10:55:11 pm »


I like the idea of the six hour motel stop instead of riding straight through. I never even thought of that, I always just figured everyone rode it out. I think maybe I could do it now. I will seriously consider trying it this fall.


8 hours into my ride would have been Noon.  Even if I stopped at a motel from noon until 6 PM, no way I could sleep at that time of day!  I wasn’t even close to tired at that point anyway -  I was jacked up and having a ball.  Can’t imagine taking a long anxious break, and then setting off at dusk to ride the second half into the night when if I had kept going, I would have been almost done....   if I were doing a BB1500, I’d do a rest stop like that, but not on the SS1000.   But, that’s me.  

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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2019, 10:33:53 am »


I like the idea of the six hour motel stop instead of riding straight through. I never even thought of that, I always just figured everyone rode it out. I think maybe I could do it now. I will seriously consider trying it this fall.


Don't schedule lengthy stops. Stop when your body says to. Stop for short times and only get gas at the gas station (don't chat, don't snack, don't get water because you should have some way to sip water all day while riding your bike). Keep the wheels going. When a 20 minute power nap doesn't work, THEN stop somewhere nearby. On a 24 hour ss1k, that won't probably happen. Consider you work 8 hours or more a day and don't sleep all the time you are not working. The average wake time is at least 16 hours a day (for most people more than that). No problemo staying awake for a ss1k.

Like Naustin said, rigid planning can lead to failure. Bend with the wind.
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Don't schedule lengthy stops. Stop when your body says to. Stop for short times and only get gas at the gas station (don't chat, don't snack, don't get water because you should have some way to sip water all day while riding your bike). Keep the wheels going. When a 20 minute power nap doesn't work, THEN stop somewhere nearby. On a 24 hour ss1k, that won't probably happen. Consider you work 8 hours or more a day and don't sleep all the time you are not working. The average wake time is at least 16 hours a day (for most people more than that). No problemo staying awake for a ss1k.

Like Naustin said, rigid planning can lead to failure. Bend with the wind.
Going the route Blue suggested, I think I'll be fine.  I was thinking 8 hour chunks, but I was intending to pull over at a motel when I needed to, which could be 10 or 12 hours in or more...  Or not at all, maybe?  I wasn't planning on booking a motel in advance, more of loosely plotting a timeline.

Update on the route, my wife decided she did want to go with me to CO, so I will be taking Blue's suggested route.  More to follow on the specific time/date.

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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2019, 12:57:21 pm »

I know without a doubt that I can't physically ride 16 hours straight even with the fuel breaks. If I ever try this (and that's a big if), I'll have to do the long break in the middle.

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2019, 11:35:30 pm »

I used to ride from DC to Southern Florida all the time --- 800+ miles in 12 hours is easy --- the last 200miles or 2-3 hours are hard...  I tended to do the ride at night to avoid heat, traffic, and cops...  

I'd suggest getting 10 hours in --- taking a break, and then going for that last 5-6 hour push.   That's and easy 62mph moving average.    Every 200 miles / fill-up take a 5 minute break, stretch, walk, hydrate, eat etc for 5 - 15 minutes depending on your speed.        
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2019, 11:08:44 pm »


I used to ride from DC to Southern Florida all the time --- 800+ miles in 12 hours is easy --- the last 200miles or 2-3 hours are hard...  I tended to do the ride at night to avoid heat, traffic, and cops...  

I'd suggest getting 10 hours in --- taking a break, and then going for that last 5-6 hour push.   That's and easy 62mph moving average.    Every 200 miles / fill-up take a 5 minute break, stretch, walk, hydrate, eat etc for 5 - 15 minutes depending on your speed.        


I'll be making the run on the VFR800, 200 miles is really squeezing every last drop out of that tank...  I've never run it empty, but figure I can get get between 180-200 miles out of a tank, especially freeway riding, and hovering around 70-80ish mph.  I feel comfortable gassing up around every 150 miles.

I was going to take the route Blue suggested this weekend, however, weather forecast is calling for thunderstorms between Flagstaff and Gallup, so I'm rescheduling...

I've got time off scheduled around Labor Day, and I'll be visiting family in the San Diego area.  I'm thinking I might make the run then, and just take the I-5 straight up and down.  There's city called Williams just a ways past Sacramento that would make a good turn-around point.  If anyone is legitimately interested in tagging along, let me know, and I'll try to pick a more easily accessible gas station to start at.  As of now, I plan on "starting" at the gas station next to my folk's house at sunrise to keep things easy.
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2019, 09:54:44 pm »

Good luck. Too bad you are not coming this way, lunch would have been on me! Of course, McDoogles is cheap so I wouldn't have been out much.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2019, 09:08:14 am »


Good luck. Too bad you are not coming this way, lunch would have been on me! Of course, McDoogles is cheap so I wouldn't have been out much.


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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2019, 07:40:18 am »

Will you go on this journey alone?
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2019, 03:45:11 pm »

Will you go on this journey alone?
If no one else says they're coming, then yes, I will go alone.  But that's ok.  The old man in the cave already gave me the sword.

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If no one else says they're coming, then yes, I will go alone.  But that's ok.  The old man in the cave already gave me the sword.

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I'm not wanting to be a pot stirrer here BUT San Diego to Heber, Az is 500 miles. A little hot through the desert but nice scenery when past Phoenix and you can make faster time than through California with the 70 mph limit. Just saying.
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I'm not wanting to be a pot stirrer here BUT San Diego to Heber, Az is 500 miles. A little hot through the desert but nice scenery when past Phoenix and you can make faster time than through California with the 70 mph limit. Just saying.
Looked a little closer at that route...  So I'd be starting a little South of Temecula, next to the I-15.  I could actually take the I-15 to the I-10, and follow that all the way to Tucson and back...  I'm not sure how bad traffic is in Phoenix and Tucson, but it's probably not as bad as pretty much all of CA.

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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2019, 01:38:52 pm »

A bit hot right now but from Temecula to Benson, Az is a touch over 500 miles. Leave early to get through San Diego and hit Hwy 8 to Hwy 10. Smooth sailing and the cops in the desert won't mind you at 80-85 mph. You'll have Yuma, Gila Bend, Tucson and the turn around point of Benson that have hotels if you must.

Just a thought. As I posted earlier, if you must do this 1,000 mile thing, hit the road and get it over with!!
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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2019, 10:01:10 am »

How is your planning going for the ride?
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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2019, 08:16:53 pm »


How is your planning going for the ride?


So I'm currently in Las Vegas, and this heat isn't just killing me...  I think it's causing issues for the VFR as well...

I rode Mt. Charleston yesterday, and going up the mountain gave a nice reprieve from the heat, but just the couple hours down in the desert seem to be causing the engine oil to maybe overheat and expand...  My engine isn't overheating, but I can smell as if I'm springing an oil leak. No obvious source of the leak (but I suspect the oil filter) and the oil level actually rose!

I decided against riding Red Rock Canyon yesterday, and the Valley of Fire today because of the heat.  I head to San Diego in a couple days.  I'm strongly considering going North instead of East after dealing with the weather out here for the last the last few days days.
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So I'm currently in Las Vegas, and this heat isn't just killing me...  I think it's causing issues for the VFR as well...

I rode Mt. Charleston yesterday, and going up the mountain gave a nice reprieve from the heat, but just the couple hours down in the desert seem to be causing the engine oil to maybe overheat and expand...  My engine isn't overheating, but I can smell as if I'm springing an oil leak. No obvious source of the leak (but I suspect the oil filter) and the oil level actually rose!

I decided against riding Red Rock Canyon yesterday, and the Valley of Fire today because of the heat.  I head to San Diego in a couple days.  I'm strongly considering going North instead of East after dealing with the weather out here for the last the last few days days.


Every year I swear I won't ride through the desert ever again in the Summer. Then, the next year I end up doing it again.   Nuts    Don't blame you one bit for wanting to go North.
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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2019, 02:23:41 am »

Well, we're waiting.  Pronounced like the guy in "Caddyshack" said it.
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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2019, 06:48:16 am »

I rode from Oklahoma to Minnesota and back over the last couple weekends. It's about 720 miles each way. Now I know that I will never try the 1000 miles in 24 hours thing.
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« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2019, 12:06:39 pm »

Do a few 500 mile trips and work your way up. You'd be surprised.
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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2019, 02:31:15 pm »


Do a few 500 mile trips and work your way up. You'd be surprised.


As I posted in another place here this morning I went 412 miles, including mountains and it began with six miles of dirt/rocky road(I don't need no adventure bike), max of 70 mph posted and still made it home in under seven hours.

Get on the interstate and hit the road at 80/85 mph and gas every 250 miles and, BINGO!
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« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2019, 05:33:15 pm »

I had a good average on this leg.

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« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2019, 06:26:40 pm »


I had a good average on this leg.




Very nice. BUT, what is that 101 mph top speed stuff? You hooligans give us good bikers a bad name.
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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2019, 01:48:25 am »

Well, we're waiting.  Pronounced like the guy in "Caddyshack" said it.
Sorry about the wait...

And also sorry to disappoint...

Turns out the new oil filter was also leaking.  I've since found out that K&N oil filters are very sensitive to over-torqueing from the nut on the end, which cracks the casing very easily, causing leaks.  I changed the oil and filter again, for the third time in a month, and decided against the trip to verify that the filter was indeed the source of the oil leak.

I was looking at maximizing daylight in the summer, however, this cooler weather is creating better route planning options.

Just went on a day ride with a few guys from one of our partnered offices, and one of them really wants to ride to Tombstone and back (roughly 530 miles each way) in the near future.  He didn't seem keen on knocking it out on 24 hours though.

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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2019, 06:58:12 am »

Keep us informed of your plans.
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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2019, 07:05:10 am »


Sorry about the wait...

Turns out the new oil filter was also leaking.  I've since found out that K&N oil filters are very sensitive to over-torqueing from the nut on the end, which cracks the casing very easily, causing leaks. 



I recently put a K&N on my truck with the same result. First time I had tried one on a non bike. It was just a slight leak but enough to put a Harleyesque puddle under it after a few days.
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« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2019, 04:23:48 pm »



Turns out the new oil filter was also leaking.  I've since found out that K&N oil filters are very sensitive to over-torqueing from the nut on the end, which cracks the casing very easily, causing leaks.



The recommendation is to never use the nut to torque the K&N oil filter ON - it is for removing the filter only.  This is from the FAQ on the K&N site:


- CAN THE NUT ON WRENCH-OFF® OIL FILTERS BE USED FOR INSTALLATION?

No, the nut on Wrench-Off® oil filters cannot be used for installation, as doing so may cause serious damage to the filter. If you attempt to use the nut to tighten the filter on installation, you may end up over-tightening the filter or causing damage to the spot welds on the filter—which could result in cracking and leakage while the filter is in service. The nut is intended to be used for convenient removal only.
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« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2019, 04:29:58 pm »

I did mine by hand but still got the leak.
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« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2019, 07:11:17 pm »


I did mine by hand but still got the leak.



"Internet fact" has it that the welding process itself weakens the filter in some cases, so even hand-tightened ones have failed.  Just a bad idea overall to weld a nut to what is very thin metal.  
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« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2019, 12:47:10 am »


Looked a little closer at that route...  So I'd be starting a little South of Temecula, next to the I-15.  I could actually take the I-15 to the I-10, and follow that all the way to Tucson and back...  I'm not sure how bad traffic is in Phoenix and Tucson, but it's probably not as bad as pretty much all of CA.

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Traffic on I-10 in the Phoenix area is The Traffic From Hell. Construction and volume make I-10 almost useless. We were there before the construction really ramped up, and I-10 was a disaster even then. There's a route over the north side of Phoenix that worked (AZ 101). With I-10 so messed up, I expect that's going to be a mess now.

I don't recall major challenges in the Tucson area. There was one surprise in the southern end of AZ: CBP inspection stations. These aren't on the border, they're well away from the US/Mexico border. NTL the stops are mandatory. Unless there's high traffic volume, the delay is minimal, but it does happen.
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« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2019, 12:51:41 am »


I'm not wanting to be a pot stirrer here BUT San Diego to Heber, Az is 500 miles. A little hot through the desert but nice scenery when past Phoenix and you can make faster time than through California with the 70 mph limit. Just saying.
Funny you should mention Heber, AZ. I'm working on a book centered on Clay Springs, SE of Heber on AZ 260. Keep going eastwards on 260 to find the towns of Show Low and Snowflake.  Smile
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« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2019, 11:23:42 am »

East from Show Low and W of Soccoro can get you to the VLA along US60. Nice surprise if you aren't expecting it.
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« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2019, 01:34:39 pm »


Funny you should mention Heber, AZ. I'm working on a book centered on Clay Springs, SE of Heber on AZ 260. Keep going eastwards on 260 to find the towns of Show Low and Snowflake.  Smile


Yep. Some pretty riding in that part of Arizona.
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