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« on: January 01, 2021, 05:30:57 pm »

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2020/12/bmw-executive-indicates-sport-tourers-are-being-replaced-by-adventure-bikes-with-17-front-wheels/

I say hogwash on this.   People still want bikes with some Ass.   Heck you need some ass to hang those meals on wheels boxes  Bigsmile
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2021, 05:53:28 pm »

My 6 year old FJ09 is what he is describing. BMW half a decade behind Yamaha?

So, ya got me reading and remembering. Way before the FJ09, and even the Ducti Multistrada, Yamaha came out in the early 1990's with the TDM 850. Was this the first of the subject bread?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_TDM850
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2021, 07:03:28 pm »

Adventure touring.  I will leave that up to you folks out west.  
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2021, 11:59:00 pm »

I hate to break it to you but my GS is a superior sport touring ride than my FJR ever was. I really hate to admit this but it is true. It is more comfortable, handles better, seamless integration of GPS and phone, is just about as quick (more torque) and it is not a sphincter tightening experience on dirt/gravel roads. I can hang bigger cases on it and is not a handful at low speeds. True the weather protection is not quite as good but that's what Gore-Tex is for. It just a more comfortable place to sit than the FJR. The only concern I have is reliability. We'll see. With that being said I am looking forward to this summer's cross country/BDR ride. The really nice thing about the Boxer is its torque and compression braking. You can tool down a curvy road and not really have to brake or change gears much.

Sport touring is not dead. It's just taken a turn off road for a while.
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2021, 05:04:18 am »

GS has some ass to it.  Yes it does  Lol
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2021, 07:28:37 am »


I hate to break it to you but my GS is a superior sport touring ride than my FJR ever was. I really hate to admit this but it is true. It is more comfortable, handles better, seamless integration of GPS and phone, is just about as quick (more torque) and it is not a sphincter tightening experience on dirt/gravel roads. I can hang bigger cases on it and is not a handful at low speeds. True the weather protection is not quite as good but that's what Gore-Tex is for. It just a more comfortable place to sit than the FJR. The only concern I have is reliability. We'll see. With that being said I am looking forward to this summer's cross country/BDR ride. The really nice thing about the Boxer is its torque and compression braking. You can tool down a curvy road and not really have to brake or change gears much.

Sport touring is not dead. It's just taken a turn off road for a while.


Having both an R1200GS and an FJR, I concur with you assessment that a GS can do twisty roads well while also able to cover long distances in comfort, just like the FJR.

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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2021, 01:59:46 pm »


GS has some ass to it.  Yes it does  Lol


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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2021, 03:53:20 pm »

GS has more room for bags

It’s got more ass.   Bigsmile
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2021, 04:46:37 pm »

i like all motorcycles.

BUT, this is a SPORT-TOURING site. My bikes are for "do all" purposes. Street related!!
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2021, 07:29:55 pm »


i like all motorcycles.

BUT, this is a SPORT-TOURING site. My bikes are for "do all" purposes. Street related!!


Today you can now have both worlds.
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2021, 08:08:35 am »

“Sport-touring” does not rely on the BIKE.  It’s not about what BIKE you are riding.  It’s about HOW YOU RIDE it.

 Just because someone rides an “adventure” bike, that doesn’t mean they can’t “sport-tour”.
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2021, 09:51:35 am »

I never can understand this wanting to pile a bunch of shit on the back of your bike and go ride.   Travel light and enjoy the riding is my motto.  
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2021, 11:49:48 am »


I never can understand this wanting to pile a bunch of shit on the back of your bike and go ride.   Travel light and enjoy the riding is my motto.  


Playing devil's advocate... if you do some of the traveling I do, all 4 seasons on the same trip, camping, hotels, hiking, dining out, etc... you have to carry some stuff. And as much as I like soft packs on my bikes, secure lockable storage is piece of mind when away from the bikes.
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2021, 01:10:02 pm »


I never can understand this wanting to pile a bunch of shit on the back of your bike and go ride.   Travel light and enjoy the riding is my motto.  


Day ride? Sure, I can understand that.


Two weeks across 11 countries and every type of weather along the way, as well as off-the-bike clothes for evening and non-bike days? Those bags come in handy  Thumbsup
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2021, 02:10:10 pm »




Day ride? Sure, I can understand that.


Two weeks across 11 countries and every type of weather along the way, as well as off-the-bike clothes for evening and non-bike days? Those bags come in handy  Thumbsup


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Day ride? Sure, I can understand that.


Two weeks across 11 countries and every type of weather along the way, as well as off-the-bike clothes for evening and non-bike days? Those bags come in handy  Thumbsup


Well

If you have the cash you just buy stuff on the go and dispose of it when you move on   Use washing machines when possible. Wash in sink using camp suds.  Lighten the load.  Yes it is living a bit more dangerously but you are on a freakin motorcycle.  
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Day ride? Sure, I can understand that.


Two weeks across 11 countries and every type of weather along the way, as well as off-the-bike clothes for evening and non-bike days? Those bags come in handy  Thumbsup


She is correct. You need to carry everything you need you might encounter on your trip. But like her, I assume, you plan stops with have laundry facilities so you can economize on clothing.

For example when me and my riding buddies are planning out moto-camping trip through Moab/Canyondlands we pick a campground with laundry facilities. It only make sense unless you want to walk to town for dinner smelling like a ripe Frenchman.
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If you have the cash you just buy stuff on the go and dispose of it when you move on    


It isn't a matter of money. But who in their right mind goes out and buys (for example) hiking boots while on a trip, uses them once, and then "disposes" of them? What  a wasteful and uneducated approach to life  
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It isn't a matter of money. But who in their right mind goes out and buys (for example) hiking boots while on a trip, uses them once, and then "disposes" of them? What  a wasteful and uneducated approach to life  


If you got the cash. (Enjoy it). Capitalism is great.  
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