Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 8 9 10   Go Down
Print

Topic: Alps Motorcycle Tours - Priced Right  (Read 167624 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Orson
speshulize in havin' fun
*

Reputation 86
Offline Offline

Years Contributed: '09
Motorcycles: '02 Moto Guzzi Le Mans, '04 Triumph Thruxton, '16 BMW R1200RS
GPS: Western N.C.
Miles Typed: 14347

My Photo Gallery



WWW
« Reply #100 on: March 09, 2008, 10:41:19 am »


Second on Bike storage:
How prevalent are self-storage units/mini-warehouses in Europe?


mototouring near Milan offers storage and basic bike maintenance such as oil changes.

I have no idea about the quality of their services...I just read about it on the net  Smile
Logged

Sport-Touring
Advertisement
*


Remove Advertisements

mtmc
*

Reputation 0
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: 2002 R1150R; 2007 R1200GS ADV
Miles Typed: 4

My Photo Gallery




Ignore
« Reply #101 on: March 09, 2008, 04:03:19 pm »

I am planning on starting out in Lisbon, Portugal (seems like a good place to start). I don't want a central hub for storage, as that would mean having to be somewhere. I would like to simply, at the end of a trip, find a near by place to store the bike and then take a bus or train to the airport, and on the next trip be able to pick back up where I left off. This would allow me to meander around as much as possible.  Thanks for the link Orson those are the places I need to find as well as Stefan Knopf's place.

Alex, I must admit you kind of talked me in a circle about the bikes. Of the three I mentioned which one you recommend and any other specific makes/models to consider? Also, I will be riding in all seasons as I have winter and summer breaks. I really don't want to appear to be a pain in the butt as I would like to pick your brain and see you on the road down the line.

-Matt
Logged
Global Rider
Alps Adventurer
*

Reputation 6
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: a few!
GPS: Canada & Alps
Miles Typed: 1537

My Photo Gallery



WWW

Ignore
« Reply #102 on: March 09, 2008, 05:02:50 pm »

Alex, I must admit you kind of talked me in a circle about the bikes. Of the three I mentioned which one you recommend and any other specific makes/models to consider?


Well since you already have an '07 GS Adventure, why not stick with that. I don't have any trouble handling it in the tightest of hairpins and narrowest of roads. See below...

If you want to leave that one at home and get another, then I'd suggest an R1200 GS provided you can get it with a low 1st gear. You'll need it. Both my Adventures came with the lower 1st gear and having lived with them both here and in the Alps, I can imagine what the normal or regular 1st gear must be like...frustrating.

Either of your other "unfaired" bikes will do also. I just prefer the stance on the GS. I wouldn't want an RT, LT or similar. It can get quite hot behind a fairing and that wind blast is a treat in the slower stuff.

That road is narrow to start with and super tight if you are on the inside...


A GS Adventure almost taking up a whole lane in Corsica...


Logged

All the best,
Alex
More info on motorcycles, Euro and Alps touring can be found at my Edelweiss SmugMug site.
Advertisement



mtmc
*

Reputation 0
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: 2002 R1150R; 2007 R1200GS ADV
Miles Typed: 4

My Photo Gallery




Ignore
« Reply #103 on: March 09, 2008, 10:14:14 pm »

Perfect, Thanks Alex. I am sure I'll have more later. Any advice from anyone else? I am sure others could use the info.

-Matt
Logged
Orson
speshulize in havin' fun
*

Reputation 86
Offline Offline

Years Contributed: '09
Motorcycles: '02 Moto Guzzi Le Mans, '04 Triumph Thruxton, '16 BMW R1200RS
GPS: Western N.C.
Miles Typed: 14347

My Photo Gallery



WWW
« Reply #104 on: March 09, 2008, 11:04:47 pm »

From my experience, U-Storage places such as the ones that are plentiful in the US, aren't that plentiful in Europe. They could have them hidden somewhere, but in my recollections, I only remember seeing one in London.

In my case, I found a mom & pop Guzzi shop who store my bike for me. They prep the bike for me so it's ready to go when I arrive. A big city dealer may not have been as helpful. These people are very nice treat me like a long lost relative whenever I return  Smile

As Alex mentioned, Europe is fairly small. You can ride from southern Sweden to northern Italy in 2 days.
Logged

throttlemeister
formally afterburn
*

Reputation 15
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: R1100S, K1200S
GPS: Netherlands
Miles Typed: 320

My Photo Gallery


WWW

Ignore
« Reply #105 on: March 10, 2008, 02:08:31 am »

That's like saying the US is a small country, cause you can drive from Kansas to Dallas in 1 day. From the North of Norway to the South of Italy is over 3000 miles, and about half of that East to West.
Logged

2003 BMW R1100S 'Bumble Bee' | Heavily modified...
2007 BMW K1200S 'ICBM' |[/COLOR
Orson
speshulize in havin' fun
*

Reputation 86
Offline Offline

Years Contributed: '09
Motorcycles: '02 Moto Guzzi Le Mans, '04 Triumph Thruxton, '16 BMW R1200RS
GPS: Western N.C.
Miles Typed: 14347

My Photo Gallery



WWW
« Reply #106 on: March 10, 2008, 02:13:18 am »


That's like saying the US is a small country, cause you can drive from Kansas to Dallas in 1 day. From the North of Norway to the South of Italy is over 3000 miles, and about half of that East to West.

now, who could take offense over sumthin I said?  Bigsmile

I meant, if you were short on time, motorways can get you across Europe fairly quickly.

there  Bigsmile

surely someone named throttlemeister has no objection to that  Bigsmile
Logged

Global Rider
Alps Adventurer
*

Reputation 6
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: a few!
GPS: Canada & Alps
Miles Typed: 1537

My Photo Gallery



WWW

Ignore
« Reply #107 on: March 10, 2008, 08:47:55 am »

That's like saying the US is a small country, cause you can drive from Kansas to Dallas in 1 day. From the North of Norway to the South of Italy is over 3000 miles, and about half of that East to West.


OK, lets keep it simple.

Without doing a marathon, you can easily do 1000 kilometer days and not arrive ultra late anywhere. That based on using autobahns, autoroutes, autostradas or motorways, no heavy traffic and no endless contruction zones.

Using a combination of back roads and autobahns (A7, A8 and A5), I can leave Rovereto in the morning and be in Heidelberg by late afternoon and still stop along the way to take plenty of pics.
Logged

All the best,
Alex
More info on motorcycles, Euro and Alps touring can be found at my Edelweiss SmugMug site.
throttlemeister
formally afterburn
*

Reputation 15
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: R1100S, K1200S
GPS: Netherlands
Miles Typed: 320

My Photo Gallery


WWW

Ignore
« Reply #108 on: March 10, 2008, 09:40:33 am »



now, who could take offense over sumthin I said?  Bigsmile

I meant, if you were short on time, motorways can get you across Europe fairly quickly.

there  Bigsmile

surely someone named throttlemeister has no objection to that  Bigsmile

Just nitpicking. Bigsmile
Logged

2003 BMW R1100S 'Bumble Bee' | Heavily modified...
2007 BMW K1200S 'ICBM' |[/COLOR
Musicman
Ready to roll!
*

Reputation 0
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: Aprilia Futura, 2010 Ducati Multistrada MS1200
GPS: Atlanta GA
Miles Typed: 29

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #109 on: March 23, 2008, 07:29:07 pm »




Yeah, I know its convenient, but film has soooo much more latitude. And what is this White Balance shit? I never had to worry about that on film.


Film is normally balanced for daylight or flash. If you shot film indoors using natural tungsten light and no flash everyone will be yellow... very yellow. With film you could buy tungsten balanced film at high-end camera stores, with digital just change a setting.
Logged
Musicman
Ready to roll!
*

Reputation 0
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: Aprilia Futura, 2010 Ducati Multistrada MS1200
GPS: Atlanta GA
Miles Typed: 29

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #110 on: March 23, 2008, 07:37:44 pm »




mototouring near Milan offers storage and basic bike maintenance such as oil changes.

I have no idea about the quality of their services...I just read about it on the net  Smile


I have some friends who keep their bikes at Mototouring. They have used them for years and are happy with them. I have rented from them three times with good experiences too.
Logged
throttlemeister
formally afterburn
*

Reputation 15
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: R1100S, K1200S
GPS: Netherlands
Miles Typed: 320

My Photo Gallery


WWW

Ignore
« Reply #111 on: March 24, 2008, 06:01:27 pm »




Film is normally balanced for daylight or flash. If you shot film indoors using natural tungsten light and no flash everyone will be yellow... very yellow. With film you could buy tungsten balanced film at high-end camera stores, with digital just change a setting.

You mean...



Yellow?

Of course, I could have changed the WB to get the true colors. But then I'd lost the atmosphere too. WB is overrated. People should be a little less obsessed with capturing the right colors and a little more with capturing the right feeling. The reason you see yellow with tungsten lighting is because the light IS yellow. Using a flash or a compensated film or adjusted WB changes your picture to something that isn't there and something you never saw with your own two eyes. That doesn't mean they don't have their uses, but people use them too much unnecessary imo.
Logged

2003 BMW R1100S 'Bumble Bee' | Heavily modified...
2007 BMW K1200S 'ICBM' |[/COLOR
Global Rider
Alps Adventurer
*

Reputation 6
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: a few!
GPS: Canada & Alps
Miles Typed: 1537

My Photo Gallery



WWW

Ignore
« Reply #112 on: July 07, 2008, 10:19:12 am »

Fuel prices are certainly becoming a big part of any tour in Europe...no complaints though  Wink...

FYI! Fuel prices per liter during June 2008 were:

1.206 for Super 95 in Slovenia;
1.354 for Super 95 to as high as 1.529 for Shell V-Power 100 in Austria;
1.687 for Shell V-Power 100 in Italy.
As high as 1.709 for Aral Ultimate 100 in Germany.

4 weeks of riding ran me 636 or about US$1000.
Logged

All the best,
Alex
More info on motorcycles, Euro and Alps touring can be found at my Edelweiss SmugMug site.
photomd
Thread Killa
*

Reputation 14
Offline Offline

Years Contributed: '06, '08
GPS: In the Land of Cotton (SC)
Miles Typed: 2146

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #113 on: July 07, 2008, 12:01:59 pm »

Are you still keeping a bike over there? I read where the EU is throwing fines at people who keep bikes in the EU for greater than one year if the bike is imported. Any news?
Logged

98 CR250
96 R1100RS
88 R100RS 79 V-1000SP
mtmc
*

Reputation 0
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: 2002 R1150R; 2007 R1200GS ADV
Miles Typed: 4

My Photo Gallery




Ignore
« Reply #114 on: July 07, 2008, 01:01:41 pm »

I took my bike to lisbon from the US in May and they didn't say anything about such a thing at the customs warehouse. Of course they could have and I would not have known, my Portuguese is nonexistent.
Logged
Global Rider
Alps Adventurer
*

Reputation 6
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: a few!
GPS: Canada & Alps
Miles Typed: 1537

My Photo Gallery



WWW

Ignore
« Reply #115 on: July 07, 2008, 01:53:38 pm »


Are you still keeping a bike over there? I read where the EU is throwing fines at people who keep bikes in the EU for greater than one year if the bike is imported. Any news?


I've never had an issue, even when chatting to the German Polizei at an autobahn rest stop.

So take it out of the EU for a day and then re-enter.
Logged

All the best,
Alex
More info on motorcycles, Euro and Alps touring can be found at my Edelweiss SmugMug site.
TexPaul
*

Reputation 0
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: BMW R1100RT, BMW R1200GS
Miles Typed: 8

My Photo Gallery




Ignore
« Reply #116 on: July 10, 2008, 09:34:34 am »

Alex,

First off let me thank you for all the great info and advice you've given to date.  We're heading to the Alps and Dolomite's in early September (2 weeks) and I was wondering about availability of accommodations.  I've been on several websites that list MC friendly places (MOBIKEHOTEL to name one).  Do you think we need to make reservations in advance of our arrival or, that time of year is it possible to find a place without much hassle at days end?  We plan to stay in one place for 2-3 days at a time but there may be situations where we only spend one night.
Also, we're going to take a day to visit Venice while in the Dolomite's, but we are not driving into Venice.  Was considering staying someplace close (like Verona) and taking a train or bus for the day.  Any suggestions?
Logged
dtor
*

Reputation 0
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: '01 Monster S4, '12 Vespa GTV300
GPS: Afton VA
Miles Typed: 48

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #117 on: July 10, 2008, 10:52:50 am »


Also, we're going to take a day to visit Venice while in the Dolomite's, but we are not driving into Venice.  Was considering staying someplace close (like Verona) and taking a train or bus for the day.  Any suggestions?


If you choose to stay in Verona (a very nice city) the Albergo Torcolo is a nice ** hotel.

http://www.hoteltorcolo.it/en/index.html

If you want to stay closer to Venice, there are lots of hotels on the River Brenta road which is just south of and parallel to the A4 autostrada from Padua to Venice. Plenty of busses to take you into Venice in 20 minutes or so depending how far out the road you stay. There's a tourist info place on the A4 west of Venice which will book rooms anywhere in the area for you.
Logged

IBA# 3120
FJR-UK
Retired STNer
*

Reputation 18
Offline Offline

GPS: SE London
Miles Typed: 698

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #118 on: July 10, 2008, 12:47:00 pm »

We stayed in Verona (a very nice town) and took the train to Venice. A word of warning: on Saturday and Sunday morning, every bugger in Milan has the same idea and they get all the seats before you get on the train. Be prepared to stand all the way to Venice. Or, go on a weekday.
Logged
Global Rider
Alps Adventurer
*

Reputation 6
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: a few!
GPS: Canada & Alps
Miles Typed: 1537

My Photo Gallery



WWW

Ignore
« Reply #119 on: July 10, 2008, 02:47:39 pm »


Alex,

We're heading to the Alps and Dolomite's in early September (2 weeks) and I was wondering about availability of accommodations. Do you think we need to make reservations in advance of our arrival or, that time of year is it possible to find a place without much hassle at days end?


Do you have your tour planned? If so, what towns do you think you might be staying in? Let me know and I'll post places that I've stayed at. Other Euro touring members might want to help out as well.

I'm always in Europe between the end of May and the middle of July, so I can't comment on accomodation availablity in September, but I would think you'd be OK then. Since you plan to stay put for 2 to 3 days, use the day you arrive to call ahead to your next planned stop. You do have those accomodations lists at the beginning of this thread?



Also, we're going to take a day to visit Venice while in the Dolomite's, but we are not driving into Venice. Was considering staying someplace close (like Verona) and taking a train or bus for the day. Any suggestions?


Good plan and Verona is a nice little city to meander through as well.

BTW, I'm sorry to be back here. You are going to have one hell of a great time. Lets hope the weather cooperates.
Logged

All the best,
Alex
More info on motorcycles, Euro and Alps touring can be found at my Edelweiss SmugMug site.
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 8 9 10   Go Up
Print
Jump to:  



ST.N

Copyright © 2001 - 2013 Sport-Touring.Net.
All rights reserved.

 
SimplePortal 2.3.1 © 2008-2009, SimplePortal