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« Reply #180 on: August 31, 2015, 08:38:13 pm »

The dual R77 slip-ons were pretty boomy.  I could hear them even with ear plugs on.  If I were to keep them that way, I would seriously consider getting the low-volume inserts.  The single R77, curiously, boomed noticeably less.  I don't know if the dB sound pressure level is actually lower, but the perceived noise levels was definitely less.

I just swapped in the TRS can, for no other reason than I happen to have it.  I am betting the longer can will make it even quieter.  Have not ridden it yet.  There was a time when I love big exhaust noise.  Not any more.

Blue is Best, my latest issue of Motorcyclist just arrived, and I read the article you referred to.  There wasn't anything in it that a lot of us don't already know.  As mentioned, exhaust tuning is done for a variety of reasons: HP, torque, engine response, emissions, weigh loss, sound, and noise level, etc.  And it's also an exercise in compromises, as you try to optimize the area important to you, and hopefully not hurt other aspects too badly.

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« Reply #181 on: September 02, 2015, 01:46:09 pm »

I discovered something interesting today, I seems my Murphs lowering pegs seem to allow my legs to drop down into some really hot engine heat.  Raising the balls of my feet up make me wonder if the stock foot position is where they intended your feet to be for heat management. Amazing if that's why I consider mine so hot.  

BTW Volf, that thing is decked out I'm guessing he lost his ass on the modifications and you got a hell of a well set-up bike.   If you don't like that ZG ST, I found the Laminar lip to work much better.
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« Reply #182 on: September 02, 2015, 03:27:31 pm »

Once I get some more riding time, I can tell if that heat is coming the exhaust pipe under foot or flowing from the engine/radiator.  Since now mine is now single side, I'll see of there is a difference left and right.  So far, I'm very impressed with the ZX14R's heat management, even riding in 100+F heat.  The '09 C14 would get hot in the mid/lower fairing and tank area, especially on the right side.  I had to stuff foam block under the fairing to keep it under control.  No need with the ZX.

Yap, I feel bad for the PO taking a big hit on the bike and the mods.  Saved me from the usual farkling up a storm.  Having some leftover parts from my C14 and other bikes help too.  Really liking the C14 gel low seat on the ZX14R.  Just as comfy as I remembered it.

Am I the only ZX14 rider that prefer big old OEM rear fenders?  Thank goodness I had a spare set from the C14... the original fender eliminator eliminator.  Lol  Keeps the muddy spray off my top box and tail lights.  Plus it gave me room to mount some additional tail/brake lights.
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« Reply #183 on: September 09, 2015, 04:22:47 pm »

Silverbird, I've ridden the ZX14R on a couple of nice morning rides over the Labor Day weekend and I'm not feeling a whole lot of heat on either side, exhaust pipe or not.  True they were morning rides and temps are starting to come down some around here, so it never got above maybe 90-92F tops while riding.  Still, I'm impressed with the ZX14's heat management.  Big engines with big HP usually puts out a lot of heat.  That was certainly the case with the C14, but Kawi did a fantastic job.  Maybe they run the fuel mixture rich to keep power up and EGR down, since my 2 taking-it-easy rides drained the tank and netted me barely 35mpg.  Oh well, can't have it all.

I fitted Genmar 1" risers the same time I installed the ZG ST screen.  The reduction in wind pressure to my upper torso is far more significant than the slightly less forward lean.  The net result is actually less comfortable than with stock bars and ZG SR screen.  I think I might put the SR screen back on and see.  Day time max temp is getting down to the low 90's now, so air flow will be back to being welcomed anyway.

In generally, I'm still Thumbsup about the bike.  I take back what I said about it having stupid power.  This thing has power that makes Harry and Lloyd look smart.  I only wish I could trade some of that for just a bit more handling prowess.
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« Reply #184 on: September 10, 2015, 09:54:00 am »

Putting my stock pegs back on seemed to help, I rode all day in 86F heat and it didn't seem as bad as it used to be.

I'm guessing it has a 190/55 on the back? That help but so does lowing the front a few mm.  I'm very happy with the handling and thats even if I've ridden my Hyper the day before.  
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« Reply #185 on: November 24, 2015, 03:15:33 pm »


I'm guessing it has a 190/55 on the back?  


Yap, mine has 190/55 Q3.

BTW, riding this thing is gonna get my license suspended or myself killed.  Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.  Crazy
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« Reply #186 on: November 26, 2015, 10:20:35 am »

Yes, it's a liscence eater for sure.  Even if you are trying to be careful you'll look down and be doing 50 in a 35 at what feels like a walking pace. Makes me wonder if putting pipes on mine would be a good thing.  When it's super quiet it's even worse.
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« Reply #187 on: November 26, 2015, 11:09:54 am »

Put the best performing, loudest pipe on your bike. That way you HAVE to putt around at low RPMS to keep from being obnoxious. Your antics will be restricted to getting on the freeway or in the country!

Worked for me.
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« Reply #188 on: November 26, 2015, 11:37:09 am »


Put the best performing, loudest pipe on your bike. That way you HAVE to putt around at low RPMS to keep from being obnoxious. Your antics will be restricted to getting on the freeway or in the country! Worked for me.


There is some truth and wisdom in Blue's philosophy here.  I tend to keep my rpm's down around town and in residential areas too.  I don't wont to come of as the obnoxious biker either.  On the hiway I wear earplugs and listen to music so I can't hear how loud it is.   Sometimes when I see wildlife near the road I pull in the clutch and twist the throttle to scare them away.  If that doesn't work I get on the nautilus air horn and give them a blast of that.  Sometimes I do both - if the deer and the antelope could talk they would say "did you hear that obnoxious motorcyclist".   Lol
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« Reply #189 on: December 02, 2015, 11:50:01 am »

Well... Darth Vader has left the building.  Sad  Chalked it up as another 3-month test ride.  It really is a great hypersport tourer, but with my insurance renewal coming up, I just could not justify the premium on it costing more than my other 3 bikes combined.  It's money down the drain that I won't ever get back and don't get any enjoyment out of.

Got a bunch of take-off farkles if anybody is interested:

1. Yoshimura R-77 dual slip-ons.  Right side link pipe is brand new.
2. Akrapovic headers.
3. SW Motech Alu Rack.
4. Kawi OEM center stand kit (handle and lock relocation parts never installed).
5. Bestem carbon fiber rear hugger.
6. C14 low gel seat (fits ZX14 by swapping a bracket, takes 5mins).
7. OEM ZX14R stock seat with flat ebony (black) cover.
8. Fender Eliminator kit (I believe it's made by Vortex).
9. Zero Gravity Sport Touring screen, dark smoke.
10. Vortex rearsets (same as pictured above but sliver color).
11. Genmar bar risers.

Bike had 2500 miles on it when I traded it in.  A lot of these parts were on the bike just a few hundred miles.  You can see pics of many of these parts on my bike in my previous posts.  Apologies for the shameless plug.  Mods, please let me know if I violated any forum rules.  I just figure fellow ZX14 pilots might be interested.
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« Reply #190 on: December 02, 2015, 05:35:41 pm »

For what did you trade the ZX-14?

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« Reply #191 on: December 02, 2015, 09:14:16 pm »

Got bit bad by the dirt bike bug... 2015 KTM 250XCF-W  Smile

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« Reply #192 on: December 05, 2015, 09:59:56 am »

I'm selling mine too. As amazing as it is, all I want to do it double the speed limit every single time I get on it.  That's asking for trouble and only a matter of time before something happens that will MAKE me sell it. Oh well I'll lose my ass as well, these are tough bikes to sell. Not a lot of men that think you can use all that power on the street. You can, I assure you. It's just really risky.
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« Reply #193 on: December 05, 2015, 01:24:26 pm »

Yeah, the new H2 has taken some of the luster away from the ZX14R, which is no longer their halo bike.  Doesn't make an ounce of difference to me, and but it does affect resale.  Anyhow, because of this, Kawi has/had some heavy incentive money on ZX14R's.  I have seen them advertised for $11k, sometime less but those typically have some fees that pump it back up.  I got a pretty good deal on my '14 ABS, so I didn't take that bad a hit.  Just the fact that I'm saving over $1000 not having to renew the insurance on it helps a lot too.

IMO, there is a huge gap between the 700lbs C14 and the 500lbs Ninja 1000.  If Kawi would just remane the ZX14R to, say...Concours 14R, insurance premium will drop precipitously.  May be restyle a bit more toward sport touring duty with better wind management and put VVT on it, like the C14, I will be tempted to revisit.  Unfortunately, with the litre sportbikes pushing north of 200HP and 185mph, bikes like the ZX14R and Busa are fast becoming an endangered species.  Kawi will probably let it die instead, which is a darn shame.  
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« Reply #194 on: December 05, 2015, 10:24:34 pm »

You may be right but there will always be a place for the big torque monsters. Can't beat cruising at 85 mph at a relaxed pace. Want to pass a line of cars at 65 mph? Just twist the throttle.

Elsewhere I posted about my buddy that just bought a new VFR800 because he just couldn't come to terms with his BMW S1000R. One of the reasons that really bothered him was cruising at 80 mph and 6,000 rpms.
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« Reply #195 on: December 27, 2015, 02:28:36 pm »

Volfy, how do you compare the heat management on your VFR to the 14R?
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« Reply #196 on: December 29, 2015, 04:41:50 pm »


Volfy, how do you compare the heat management on your VFR to the 14R?

I thought I covered that in a previous thread.  Anyhow, VFR1200 is one of the best at engine heat management.  The only time I feel any engine heat is if I am stopped at a light and there's a tail wind that pushes some of the rejected engine heat back onto my legs.  I believe Honda design it to channel engine heat under the bike, as the rear swingarm gets mighty toasty after riding in hot weather.  Riding it in any ambient temp, including over elevated fwys in afternoon 115F Summer heat, there is no engine heat to be felt.

The ZX14R manages engine heat quite well too, more remarkable given how much heat is pumped out from that big 1441cc inline 4.  Big HP means big heat production.  Afterall, the 4stroke internal combustion engine runs on principles of the Otto Cycle, which is a basically a HEAT PUMP.  Contrast that to the '09 C14, which warmed my thighs and left shin pretty good on a hot day, the big Ninja never once made its big heat signature felt to me.  For that reason, I would rate the ZX14R's heat management slightly above that of the VFR1200.
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« Reply #197 on: March 06, 2016, 05:11:00 pm »

Just gave mine away for 8K.  I'm done with buying expensive new bikes.  I've lost my ASS on an FJR, KTM SMT and now this thing.  I thing I might be riding a 919 until gas isn't available anymore.  
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« Reply #198 on: March 08, 2016, 04:17:44 pm »

I hear you. Of the 7 bikes I've owned since I got back into riding over the last 10 years or so, every one was used or slightly used before finding its way into my garage - that way I never get killed when the make their way OUT of the garage, although I'm pretty set with my current bikes...

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« Reply #199 on: March 09, 2016, 10:41:10 am »

I rarely buy brand new either and usually do okay flipping bikes.  From time to time though, I do get hammered too.  The S3R was one.  Didn't do too bad on the ZX14R.  I'm done with the 6month test rides though.  The 2 road bikes I have now suit me the best and will stay for quite a while.
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