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Question: Should all states make helmets mandatory for all riders?
YES! - 131 (42.5%)
No, it should be up to each state to choose - 16 (5.2%)
No, it's an idividuals right to choose to wear a helmet - 161 (52.3%)
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« on: July 16, 2008, 01:27:01 pm »

Heh, just want to see where this goes.
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 01:37:12 pm »

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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 01:52:36 pm »

I always wear my helmet, but I don't think I should be forced to.  I do think that people that wear helmets should get an insurance break or discount of some sort.  This would encourage people to wear them (aside from the fact that it'll help save your melon).
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 01:58:15 pm »


I always wear my helmet, but I don't think I should be forced to.  I do think that people that wear helmets should get an insurance break or discount of some sort.  This would encourage people to wear them (aside from the fact that it'll help save your melon).


That's be cool, but from an insurance standpoint, there'd be no way to confirm that you actually do wear your helmet. On the other hand, I suppose its along the lines of "is your bike garaged?" I answered yes even though half the nights its outside under cover.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 04:42:37 pm »

i voted individual choice

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If a helmet prevents an injury it effects more then their person and family.  If my co-worker crashes and can't work for a few weeks, months or years my workload increases.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 05:17:47 pm »

What's between your scalp and the pavement?

Some places its law to have it on the bike, you dont have to actually wear it. Thats the same as a life jacket under the seat in the boat... doesnt do you much good when you are at the bottom of the lake...
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 05:25:28 pm »




That's be cool, but from an insurance standpoint, there'd be no way to confirm that you actually do wear your helmet. On the other hand, I suppose its along the lines of "is your bike garaged?" I answered yes even though half the nights its outside under cover.


Or if you happened to not be wearing a helmet in a crash you wouldn't be covered. Rolleyes  I like the idea, but I admit I have ridden (although rarely) without a helmet. It's only for a few miles, occasionally.. but you know how that goes Wink
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 05:52:48 pm »



If my co-worker crashes and can't work for a few weeks, months or years my workload increases.




Interesting train of thought.
Maybe you could hit the boss up for a raise!


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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2008, 05:55:06 pm »





Interesting train of thought.
Maybe you could hit the boss up for a raise!


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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2008, 05:58:47 pm »

I'm cool with helmet laws for minors. Adults should be free to choose.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2008, 09:02:17 pm »

"THE QUALITY OF HEAD PROTECTION IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONATE TO THE QUALITY OF BRAINS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO PROTECT".
I think that the 'state' is trying to protect those that are too stupid to know any better. Just like seat belt laws.
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2008, 09:35:29 pm »

I would prefer my insurance company required its insured riders wear them.  If not, no coverage for injuries.

Let try to keep the government regulation at a minimum please.   Smile
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2008, 09:42:46 pm »


I would prefer my insurance company required its insured riders wear them.  If not, no coverage for injuries.

Let try to keep the government regulation at a minimum please.   Smile


Then what's to stop your insurance company from requiring that you not ride or ski or surf or listen to your iPod when crossing the street or...
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2008, 09:45:57 pm »


i voted individual choice

BUT

If a helmet prevents an injury it effects more then their person and family.  If my co-worker crashes slips in the shower and can't work for a few weeks, months or years my workload increases.


Irrelevant argument.  Next...!
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2008, 09:57:05 pm »

Anyone who wishes to read a sensible libertarian (philosophy, not politics, hence small L) outlook on this subject is welcome to read the frickin paragraphs Black Ice and I wrote when this poll first came up... what, two years ago?
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2008, 09:57:56 pm »




Then what's to stop your insurance company from requiring that you not ride or ski or surf or listen to your iPod when crossing the street or...


Only the lack of demand for their product.  If they have unreasonable conditions then demand for their product will go down.  I doubt I would continue to purchase bike insurance if the insurance company wouldn't cover bike riding.

It is not an uncommon practice for an insurance company to decline insure based on statistical data.  My RZ350 was on a restricted list immediately below the Yamaha VMax.  I went elsewhere rather than find another bike.

Other conditions are restricted from coverage such as racing, and in some cases, rally activity.


From your question can I take it you want more government involvement?

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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2008, 10:05:53 pm »



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i voted individual choice

BUT

If a helmet prevents an injury it effects more then their person and family.  If my co-worker crashes slips in the shower and can't work for a few weeks, months or years my workload increases.



Irrelevant argument.  Next...!


There you go again using that dadgummed logic.
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2008, 10:14:57 pm »




Only the lack of demand for their product.  If they have unreasonable conditions then demand for their product will go down.


The problem is, insurance is mandatory in so many different ways.  When people/companies are required by law to have/provide insurance, it totally skews the market.  This leads to the situation of today, where many insurance companies are nothing but money-grubbing crooks.   Sad
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2008, 10:16:28 pm »


Anyone who wishes to read a sensible libertarian (philosophy, not politics, hence small L) outlook on this subject is welcome to read the frickin paragraphs Black Ice and I wrote when this poll first came up... what, two years ago?


You may have to link 'em, Dred...matter of fact, I'm thinking a sticky may be the only way to prevent this subject being dragged up every few months...!!  Rolleyes   Lol
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2008, 10:42:08 pm »


You may have to link 'em, Dred...matter of fact, I'm thinking a sticky may be the only way to prevent this subject being dragged up every few months...!!  Rolleyes   Lol


Where's the sport in that? Next thing ya know you'll want to sticky a dino v. synth thread too.
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