2011 GSX1250FA coming to America

[chornbe]

We live in a world where the big STs are all $15k and up.

This bike is more appropriately compared to the Sprint ST and GT...

That's the price compare to worry about, and yes, only for 2011.

It wasn't here in 2010 so it's moot.

[Sport-Touring]

[chesthing]

Chain drive = fail.

[Dave the slave]

 

Chain drive = fail.

 

Buy an FJR.

I PREFER chain drive.

[rajflyboy]

Chain Drive = more HP which makes me  

[chornbe]

I'm thankful for a rich and varied market place that offers a little something for everyone.

[rajflyboy]

I'm thankful for a rich and varied market place that offers a little something for everyone.

A Z1000 or Suzuki 1250 type of machine was much more interesting when they sold for 8G instead of 12G

[Dave the slave]

Just to add fuel to the fire I paid $11,300 OTD for my 2009 ZX14, MSRP was $12,099+TTL so in Utah if I paid full retail I would have been about $13,300.

But it really depends on the popularity of the model in question.  

[IrishFazerBoy]

Ninja 1000, Sprint GT, GSX1250F ... damn...all made for me.   It's going to be difficult to choose!    BTW where is Honda??? WTF!!!   That CBF1000 would match up nicely here.   Oh well,   they've given up the NA market I guess.
Price...well coming from a BMW they all look good.   The 1200RT is a most excellent bike, but $18K ...ouch

[UFO]

Bandit 1250, 5.0 gallon tank,internet forums go  

Honda VFR1200,4.9 gallon tank, $16,000 entry price, internet goes  

FTFY

[Strog]

Bandit 1250, 5.0 gallon tank,internet forums go  

Honda VFR1200,4.9 gallon tank,internet goes  

50-ish MPG versus mid-30s MPG is the bigger issue if you want to compare those bikes. You'd be walking from your VFR long before the Bandit even got to reserve.  

I think it would have been a lot less of an issue if the VFR1200 had a larger tank OR better fuel economy. The old VFR had a 5.8 gal tank and 40MPG so it was a big step backwards in range on a tank for a bike that was supposed to be good at touring (probably is great for touring if you don't mind stopping more often).

[chornbe]

Just to add fuel to the fire I paid $11,300 OTD for my 2009 ZX14, MSRP was $12,099+TTL so in Utah if I paid full retail I would have been about $13,300.

But it really depends on the popularity of the model in question.  

the 2011 XZ14 is MSRP $13,599.

When doing new-model-year price comparisons, MSRP has to be compared first. Discounted prices are just icing on the cake. Left over pricing is a crap shoot.

Raj's complaint was that the Bandit 1250 sport-tour dressed version of "overpriced" at $11 and some change compared to the ZX14.

It's not... again, comparing new stock on current-year models.

[scottzilla]

Bandit 1250, 5.0 gallon tank,internet forums go  

Honda VFR1200,4.9 gallon tank,internet goes  

ZING!

[Mr.Black]

Factor in at least $400.00 for an aftermarket seat since the stock one is like sitting on a rock.

[Cablebandit]

A Z1000 or Suzuki 1250 type of machine was much more interesting when they sold for 8G instead of 12G

Wait a year and pickup a leftover for that...or less.  While I agree that the bike looks good and makes sense.  The fickle American consumer doesn't make sense.  

Face it, the motorcycle buying public at large here buy cruisers/ crotch rockets.  Bikes that "make sense" don't seem to do well in this market for whatever reason.

[JReazor]

Wait a year and pickup a leftover for that...or less.  While I agree that the bike looks good and makes sense.  The fickle American consumer doesn't make sense.  

Face it, the motorcycle buying public at large here buy cruisers/ crotch rockets.  Bikes that "make sense" don't seem to do well in this market for whatever reason.

Because motorcycles are toys. No one needs a practical or comfortable toy.

[Cablebandit]

Precisely

[scottzilla]

Wait a year and pickup a leftover for that...or less.  While I agree that the bike looks good and makes sense.  The fickle American consumer doesn't make sense.  

Face it, the motorcycle buying public at large here buy cruisers/ crotch rockets.  Bikes that "make sense" don't seem to do well in this market for whatever reason.

This is the common answer but BMW has done a good job selling in their niche; the Adventure is their best seller, year after year after year...
This does not point towards buyers only caring about crotch rockets and cruisers.  I think it does show consumers have expectations about what kind of products a mfg produces.  It is the mfg's job to influence these expectations.

[Cablebandit]

True, but BMW is selling the lifestyle not the bike.  Similar to Harley.  How many of those dentists buying GS's used to have a Harley.  I think we already have the thread that BMW is the new Harley.  

[Dave the slave]

the 2011 XZ14 is MSRP $13,599.

When doing new-model-year price comparisons, MSRP has to be compared first. Discounted prices are just icing on the cake. Left over pricing is a crap shoot.

Raj's complaint was that the Bandit 1250 sport-tour dressed version of "overpriced" at $11 and some change compared to the ZX14.

It's not... again, comparing new stock on current-year models.

I bought my 2009 ZX14 in May of 2009... Not a leftover... My point was shop and haggle and you can get a much better price than MSRP.

[Dan K]

Because motorcycles are toys. No one needs a practical or comfortable toy.

I'm curious about the prevalence of the belief that motorcycles are toys.  

I feel, with no real statistical basis, that riders I know use their bikes for transportation more than as 'toys.'

Of course, most of my riding friends and I have multiple bikes, and usually only 1 is the practical touring/commuting bike (for some, they have 2, but those guys don't count anyway - too many in the garage).


My buddy with one bike, he never rides it.

Odd.

- Dan