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« on: June 12, 2011, 04:27:19 pm »

OK, so Lee Parks Total Control is not available on iBooks or Kindle. What do you recommend that is worth reading that is available from either ebook service?

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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2011, 05:29:07 pm »

Don't know whats available on ebooks, but....

Smooth Riding by Reg Pridmore

Twist of the Wrist 1 & 2 by Keith Code

All three are excellent.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 09:32:34 pm »

Sport Riding Techniques: How To Develop Real World Skills for Speed, Safety, and Confidence on the Street and Track

http://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072/ref=pd_sim_b_5

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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2011, 10:56:29 pm »

I got " Ride Hard, Ride Smart" by Pat Hahn from Motorbooks for Fathers Day a number of yrs. ago. I really like the layout of this book. It is something I keep in my nightstand, and go to on a regular basis. Highly recommended.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2011, 03:30:35 am »

Gotta agree with all of the ones mentioned, except for the last.  I have them all, but I really liked Ride Hard, Ride Smart the least.  But then I read it after most of the others.  I just found there wasn't much I hadn't seen before.  
Pridmore's book, Code's books and Sport Riding Techniques are all excellent, although Code's TOTW 1 is fairly track oriented.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2011, 10:34:27 am »


Pridmore's book, Code's books and Sport Riding Techniques are all excellent, although Code's TOTW 1 is fairly track oriented.


I heard the same thing about TOTW 1, so I bought TOTW 2.  TOTW 2 stands well on its own and is not treated as a continuation from book 1.  I got more from this than any of the other books as far a specific techniques to try when playing in the twisties.  

   
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2011, 10:42:29 am »

Ride more, read less.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2011, 10:58:37 am »


Sport Riding Techniques: How To Develop Real World Skills for Speed, Safety, and Confidence on the Street and Track

http://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072/ref=pd_sim_b_5

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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2011, 11:53:52 am »


Ride more, read less.


It's for reading when I can't ride smartass.

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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2011, 11:57:42 am »


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NIce idea, but I did notice a definite improvement in my skills after reading "sport riding techniques" and total control. I would read a chapter before bed, then go practice the next day after work. Suddenly those guys I had to wrok to keep up with were behind me Headscratch
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  Nick wrote the article "The Pace". Wink


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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2011, 12:18:06 pm »

Well, I learned my incredible technique from reading the posts on here.... Thumbsup
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2011, 12:47:42 pm »


Ride more, read less.
Read a bit, ride a bit faster.  And know how to handle unexpected situations so you can survive them and ride more days, years...
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2011, 12:52:28 pm »

Thanks for all the helpful (and not) suggestions.

Has anyone read "Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well" by David L. Hough?
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2011, 01:10:47 pm »

When I started, I found Proficient Motorcycling to be excellent. It was the first technique book that I read. I thought it did a great job of explaining not only how you should ride, but why you should ride that way. Like how the bike's geometry, weight bias, traction, etc. change as braking, turning and accelerating forces are applied. I also got a lot out of More Proficient Motorcycling, TOTW2, and Total Control. Thanks for starting this thread as I've already found a few additional books I need to get.
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Before Nick wrote the article there wasn't the pace as we know it, thus he invented it. Wink
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2011, 01:54:42 pm »


Thanks for all the helpful (and not) suggestions.

Has anyone read "Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well" by David L. Hough?


Should be mandatory reading for all riders.  Less of a technique book than a how and why things work the way they do book.  Great for understanding how traction works and how it's affected by the myriad of factors that affect it.  A very good basics plus book that everyone can get something from and it's a great refresher / reminder for seasoned riders.
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2011, 09:36:32 pm »



It's for reading when I can't ride smartass.

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I am of course half serious. Btw why limit yourself to only ebooks?
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NIce idea, but I did notice a definite improvement in my skills after reading "sport riding techniques" and total control. I would read a chapter before bed, then go practice the next day after work. Suddenly those guys I had to wrok to keep up with were behind me Headscratch

Who was there helping you verify that you were doing it right?

For anything active in person instruction has no substitute.  Sure read but then find a good coach to validate your actions are what was written.

Also the reason they ended up behind you is due to your increased confidence (rightfully or not).
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2011, 09:39:37 pm »

All of the above plus The Upper Half of The Motorcycle by Bernt Spiegel.
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2011, 09:42:56 pm »

One more thing...I have them all and have read them all.  I learned more in one instructional track day than those books.

If you want to learn street survival skills they are the same ones you use while driving.  Yes believe it or not.
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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2011, 08:44:16 am »

I have them all and have read them all.  I learned more in one instructional track day
It depends on the person and the instructor.  You probably wouldn't have gotten near so much out of the track day if the reading hadn't prepared you.
For me, I prefer to (and do better by) read something, practice it, re-read it and practice more and then go on to the next 'lesson'.  I've had instructors (non-M/C) that jamb things at you. If you don't get it, they just jamb harder.
I do admit that with most things, you can only go so far by yourself and immediate, constructive feedback is very valuable.
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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2011, 11:39:03 am »

Is the "MSF Guide to Motorcycling Excellence" available in e-book form?
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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2011, 11:57:29 am »

Well, you people haven't really improved my technique at all with this thread.
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Well, you people haven't really improved my technique at all with this thread.


haven't fallen down since you started reading have you?   see, you are much better than before Wink
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Is the "MSF Guide to Motorcycling Excellence" available in e-book form?



Do you want me to check for you so you can read it?

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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2011, 04:23:02 pm »

http://www.learnerstuff.co.uk/software-cd-roms/adi-pdi-driving-instructor-books-dvd-part-2.htm?gclid=CNur6dactqkCFUtC4QodsSLcJg
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Do you want me to check for you so you can read it?

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Sure!  Bigok

Actually, I've already read it, albeit not in e-book form.
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Sure!  Bigok

Actually, I've already read it, albeit not in e-book form.


I assumed you were poking fun at me based on your sig line.......

Were you (joking)?
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I don't think he was.
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I assumed you were poking fun at me based on your sig line.......

Were you (joking)?


I'm serious.

Even if your riding level is above it, there might still be something you can learn from it, or something you find interesting, or some tidbit you can pass on to a fellow rider.
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I'm serious.

Even if your riding level is above it, there might still be something you can learn from it, or something you find interesting, or some tidbit you can pass on to a fellow rider.



Well then thanks. And no, it isn't available in ebook form as far as I can tell.
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« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2011, 09:00:48 am »

I checked  -- it is not currently available in e-book form.
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« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2012, 06:16:26 pm »

Just ordered the Pat Hahn and David Hough books from the library..a free read is always nicer than $$$...cant wait to read them
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« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2012, 10:52:14 pm »

Reading is a great way to improve your skills.  simply "riding more" only enforces the bad habits you probably have.

I loved "Sport Riding Techniques" by Nick Ienatsch.  (I shouldn't have tried to spell that.)  And "Total Control" by Lee Parks.  For track day prospectives, I like "The Track Day Handbook" by Kent Larson.
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« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2012, 08:45:25 pm »

what if you're too tired to read, are there any audiobooks (why do they call them books anyway shouldn't they be called recordings or tracks??? Lol)
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« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2012, 02:22:56 pm »


OK, so Lee Parks Total Control is not available on iBooks or Kindle. What do you recommend that is worth reading that is available from either ebook service?

Edited to add that this was my 1K post.

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« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2012, 07:41:11 am »

A FREE ebook here: http://www.rideitright.org/documents/Full_Control_low_res_en.pdf
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« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2013, 08:31:30 pm »

The skills taught in the "ride like a pro" video should be acquired by everyone who ride. The friction zone techniques will prevent many a dropped bikes.
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