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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2011, 01:59:11 pm »

We could always skip the rotation and have it in the same place every year since each region now has its own meet, and I don't recall seeing any laws against attending a meeting in another region.

I propose the Geographic Center of the United States, Lebanon Kansas. http://www.kansastravel.org/geographicalcenter.htm

Of course, the riding might kinda suck, just look at that horizon.

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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2011, 02:10:51 pm »


We could always skip the rotation and have it in the same place every year since each region now has its own meet, and I don't recall seeing any laws against attending a meeting in another region.

I propose the Geographic Center of the United States, Lebanon Kansas. http://www.kansastravel.org/geographicalcenter.htm

Of course, the riding might kinda suck, just look at that horizon.




Yup,  and the meets closest are both "Western".   Time to move one of the two.
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« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2011, 02:23:03 pm »

By road:
 Eureka Springs to Lebanon - 515
 Gunnison to Lebanon - 552
 Custer to Lebanon - 524

so Lebanon is pretty much the center.  Problem solved, leave a dollar in the jar on your way out. Bigsmile

I do agree that the "western" national location should be closer to the coast.
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« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2011, 05:36:43 pm »


Personally I don't think the economy is why only 18 people showed up. Location being the same was.

As to a more western meet causing no east coasters to come I have to ask, how many west coasters go to the Eastern met in WV?

The idea of the rotation was to put a national close to people so they would go. Not having one near the west coast is not fair to the west coasters.

I feel like someone is getting their butt hurt with my suggestion on how to increase the number of people and are not willing to flex.

More than you realize, I think we did pretty well last two times, last being Lewisburg and I know there were western people there,not saying there shouldn't be a west coast meet . And maybe you a TAD oversensitive to folks who don't bandwagon jump, hey show me how its going to get more people (other than all west coasters ) and I'll 100% back the idea instead of the 50/50 I am now.
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« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2011, 06:00:51 pm »


We could always skip the rotation and have it in the same place every year since each region now has its own meet, and I don't recall seeing any laws against attending a meeting in another region.

I propose the Geographic Center of the United States, Lebanon Kansas. http://www.kansastravel.org/geographicalcenter.htm

Of course, the riding might kinda suck, just look at that horizon.




The geographic center of North America is Rugby SD IIRC ... But Inguess that is why it is called the NATIONAL ... eh?
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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2011, 07:38:00 pm »

FYI: Sonora is a good three day ride for me or a bad two day ride.  It all depends on the roads I take. The important part for me is zero interstate there and its still a reasonable time line.

And so what if there are more Californians. Its more people.

How many people from the western states showed up in the last eastern meet?  I know you said you did ok. But what is ok?
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« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2011, 07:39:15 pm »

Yeah it's called a national but if it continues like this it should have been called an International meet.  Smile
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« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2011, 08:07:08 pm »


Yeah it's called a national but if it continues like this it should have been called an International meet.  Smile


Sorry that we watered down the event to such a degree  Twofinger
I was not aware that the horsepower to Canuck ratio was such an issue?! Lol

St.n IS international after all.  Headscratch Sad Razz

But, I tend to agree with Chris, that the western national is a bit much too east. Baker comes to mind or the area south of Logan UT. East west must be juxtaposed with the reality of travel time/distance.

There ... Chris.  How did I do ?  Can I still borrow the Duc next weekend as you promised ? ?  Oh , after you put on new rubber of course.  

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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2011, 09:34:04 pm »

There ... Chris.  How did I do ?  Can I still borrow the Duc next weekend as you promised ? ?  Oh , after you put on new rubber of course. 

Did I promise something after you rufyed me?  Smile
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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2011, 12:09:13 am »

moving the national to the west coast would make it easier for pussies to attend when, we're supposed to be weeding out the pussies from our ranks.

if sport touring wuz easy, everyone would be doing it.

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« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2011, 12:51:46 am »

6 Canadian riders and me (I just happened to ride from Canada, but I don't come from there).  Bump it up to 8 Canadians if you add the pillions.  So I'd say us Americans still outnumbered the Canadians.  Smile

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That's the geographic center of the United States (if you factor in Hawaii and Alaska).  I know this because it was on a menu at a restaurant in Bell Forche, SD, so it had to be true. Smile

Lebanon KS is the center of the "lower 48" IIRC.  But there's no way you'll get me to go back to anywhere named Lebanon, great roads or slab. Been there, done that, got the Purple Heart.
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« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2011, 01:34:05 am »


Did I promise something after you rufyed me?  Smile


Yes,  apparently Bubba was pretty good.  
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« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2011, 11:12:08 am »

Check out this map of population density, and figure out where the best place is to travel to that is equi-distant for the most people (you're gonna lose West Coaster's  Razz )
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« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2011, 03:50:41 pm »


Check out this map of population density, and figure out where the best place is to travel to that is equi-distant for the most people (you're gonna lose West Coaster's  Razz )



On that note is there a map that shows the density of ST.Ners across the US?  I know there are tools where you can feed it a ton of citys and it'll produce a map for you.   I'm highly curious of this information cause it would help National meet planning.  If it turns out they are all in Florida...then while I won't like it...I'd agree to the national being closer to there.  But I have a feeling that isn't the case.   Cool
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« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2011, 03:59:19 pm »

Good roads are generally in inverse proportion to the amount of population in a given area.  Has little to do with geography, and much to do with traffic.
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« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2011, 04:05:51 pm »


Good roads are generally in inverse proportion to the amount of population in a given area.  Has little to do with geography, and much to do with traffic.


Can you explain California then?  Smile
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« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2011, 04:17:05 pm »

The western meet could be in Utah.  
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« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2011, 04:20:25 pm »

Note the "generally" in there, and the fact that I said area, not state.  That said, from the population centers in Cali, other than a few crowded exceptions, it's still a bit of a ride to get to the tasty bits.
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« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2011, 07:45:53 pm »

So maybe move Custer location west to WY/MT/ID region, and move the CO meet location further south to New Mexico. The first move will pander to PNW's and the second move should make the SoCal'ers happier.

Eureka Springs is about as close as you can get to the center of ST.n crowd that also has good riding
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« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2011, 11:41:03 am »


Eureka Springs is about as close as you can get to the center of ST.n crowd that also has good riding


Actually I remember planning the first Nat'l.  At that time we looked for a location central to the majority of members.  Custer was a very good choice. (Colorado was 2nd).  With the addition of other locations not as central, the need for a central location  isn't as critical.  Colorado could get moved a bit West to Utah  (could be bloody hot there),  Custer could go west to Idaho

But like I've said,  I love riding the Black Hills and would go (for my fourth time) if it was there again.
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