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« Reply #120 on: July 25, 2010, 09:33:19 pm »

Frame sliders could be a good investment (save the paint!) Hopefully It doesnt come to it buy you never know.  So far I have found a 09' 650R for 6500$CDN (coincidence? lol) which seems promising since its has less than 1,000k on it.

Should I be buying an older cheaper bike. Is there any advantages to newer over older?  I originally was looking at a bunch of 04-08s on buysell.com for 2500$ but no-one seemed to respond.. and alot of the adds seemed kinda fishy.



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« Reply #121 on: July 25, 2010, 10:50:15 pm »

It's up to you and what you want to spend.  I would advise getting a used bike first.  Your first bike probably won't be your last and you may discover that you want to try something different in a year or two.  Have you checked craigslist.org?
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« Reply #122 on: July 25, 2010, 11:01:17 pm »

I have been coming across lots from jaxed.com/ (very handy!)

Is there any other recommendations for the 2500-4000$ price range?  for the sport/street-touring style


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« Reply #123 on: July 28, 2010, 02:23:41 am »

I was at kawasaki again the other tday and the 600cc Super sports were 6000-6500.. why are they 2000 cheaper then the 650R?

Could you buy a SS and raise the handle bars so you sat up more like a 650r?

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« Reply #124 on: July 28, 2010, 11:39:49 am »


I was at kawasaki again the other tday and the 600cc Super sports were 6000-6500.. why are they 2000 cheaper then the 650R?

Could you buy a SS and raise the handle bars so you sat up more like a 650r?



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Yes,  but it still wouldn't affect the hair-trigger response these bikes are designed to have.  While amazing in experienced hands, this will just add one more factor for a new rider to overcome.

You don't put a new rider in a Ferrari and expect them to learn to drive easily, why would you do something even trickier to a new rider?
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« Reply #125 on: July 28, 2010, 12:43:51 pm »

Hows the GS500F  for a beginner?

Im starting to lean towards a cheaper used bike to start out..
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« Reply #126 on: July 28, 2010, 12:46:57 pm »


Hows the GS500F  for a beginner?

Im starting to lean towards a cheaper used bike to start out..


considered a great bike.

Used is absolutely the way to go.
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« Reply #127 on: July 28, 2010, 02:52:10 pm »


Hows the GS500F  for a beginner?

Im starting to lean towards a cheaper used bike to start out..



My first bike was an old, dry-rotted, and rusty 94 GS500 with bent front forks with no fluid left in them.  Talk about a harsh ride!  But I didn't know any better.  I paid too much for it (because I didn't know what I was doing--I didn't even know the forks were bent when I got it!).  But it ran, the tires held air and the lights worked.  I replaced the tires and chain in short order and then proceeded to drive it for 5000 miles before I sold it.  A friend bought it from me and then wrecked it a year later.  That poor bike had a rough life.  It was an excellent bike to learn on (low power, forgiving, light).  I think that you are looking in the right direction.  A GS500 makes an excellent first bike.  It's a better bike than a 650R and you can find used ones much cheaper.
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« Reply #128 on: July 28, 2010, 04:05:12 pm »

Im on my way to the suzuki dealer after work to see how one feels... any other comparables ones to check out? So far the price is right 2006-2008  3600-3900 obo on some classifiedies Smile


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« Reply #129 on: July 28, 2010, 07:29:26 pm »


Im on my way to the suzuki dealer after work to see how one feels... any other comparables ones to check out? So far the price is right 2006-2008  3600-3900 obo on some classifiedies Smile





A Ninja 500 would be about the same.  Let us know what you think after you check them out.
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« Reply #130 on: July 29, 2010, 02:28:48 am »

I apologize for 8 million questions but i Really appreciate everyone help!

ZX636R -   supposedly decent for beginner



2004 ZX6RR 4200$ cdn - Ok for a beginner or to much of a street bike?  
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/bowserclaw/Kawasaki%20ZX6RR/Ksbike043.jpg




2008 GS500GF   4200$ cdn  
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/pacificcoast/Honda%20GS500FK8/IMG_3821.jpg

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2000 sv650 - $3950 (debating, prefer sport look but dont mind it) awaiting lower offer.


07 650R  - 4500$ cdn


FZ6? - to SS like?


Is there any I should/shouldn't get?  or would any be okay?

Still open for more suggestions.. Its rough trying to decide on a bike!
I think im going to try to keep it under 4k


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« Reply #131 on: July 29, 2010, 09:25:19 am »

forget the ZX6rr,

The 500 or the SV650 are your best bets,  many expert riders love the SV,   plus .... less plastic to break when it gets dropped.  ( the ZX6RR  looks repainted,  why???)
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« Reply #132 on: July 29, 2010, 09:47:21 am »

Good call on the repainted, completely overlooked it.


GS500GF    vs SC650  any major differences?
Which ones is more comfortable to ride.


Also for the sv650 (naked vs faring versions) is there any differences other than looks?
the naked one below seemed a bit expensive for a 2000 with 16,000k but 3700$cdn  



Also just found this one, 2003 sv650s with 7,000k  for 3600$cdn (lowest K/price!)



and  2004 SV650s  with 25,000k  for 4300 $ cdn


2007 sv650 - 14,000k   $4,900 cdn



How many km is considered high? is it similar to a car? at what point do bikes generally start to have problems?


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« Reply #133 on: July 29, 2010, 11:49:46 am »

You have been doing a lot of looking and compairing.  That's good!  I prefer a plastic faring and a windshield because I don't like the wind blasting me in the face.  The GS500 that I had did not have a windshield and the wind would get tiring after 50 miles.  But maybe that's just me.

None of those bikes have high milage/kilometers.  The silver 03 SV650 is probably the best option.  It looks like there is a scrape in the pipe but I don't see any damage anywhere else, so it's probably ok.  I'm a little afraid of the last Ninja 650.  It looks like it may have been down at some point...

Now if it were me, I would get the ZX6...
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« Reply #134 on: July 29, 2010, 12:12:40 pm »


The ex650r looks to be a screaming good deal.   Almost too good.  Frame would need a good inspection (professionally done to be sure).  If it's ok,  I'd go for it,  after all,  who cares about the plastic?


The motors on most bikes are bulletproof now a days.   I'm up on 80,000 km w/ my bike.    Lots of people here have more than that.  I'm expecting 150,000 before I have to touch up the engine.

Most important is how the bike's been maintained.
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« Reply #135 on: July 29, 2010, 12:16:06 pm »

Well GS500f is a not bad price at all almost new for 4,000  and its a good learner bike
how ever few hour drive and borrow a truck to get it.


Silver 03 is an older sv650s bike but super low km and if its still there for that price its not bad at all (and its local!)

As for the Zx6 I like it by far the best for looks.. (hows the riding position compared to a sv650?)
As for the Zx6 there mixed opinions on if it should be used for beginners, its not really a supersport but kinda in the middle.. at least from my impression
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« Reply #136 on: July 29, 2010, 12:22:00 pm »

2005 Kawasaki Ninja 250  - 2800$ cash
I wonder if it would be to small/out grow to quick? But i gusess only time would tell.. cheap decent starter bike




Report so far on the SVC650R
Okay just called the silver sv650R

The bike had been doped by its prior owner, he has had it 4 years since then and rides it all the time.,  the tank was dented/front fearing cracked.. He replaced the tank but it could use a new fearing.. which is about 400$ he says..    I asked what he wanted he said 3100 ish but maybe work out something if you wanted..

I may go take a look at at later..  especially since its so cheap.. however ill need to take a good look at it..






What all should I look out for/be a warning signs.. I have looked over the general info for used bike buying.. just not sure about previously dropped ones..

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« Reply #137 on: July 29, 2010, 01:04:49 pm »


ZX636R -   supposedly decent for beginner

Sez who?  

I rode one of these when it first came out in 2003, and lemme tell ya, it is NOT for a beginner.  It is a racebike...powerful engine, sensitive handling, and a riding position that makes it almost impossible to ride properly at legal speeds.  (OK...I wanted one, but then again, I have the experience both to ride one, and to resist buying one...)

As for the SV650s you've been looking at...I like the SV650 nakeds for beginners, but the SV650S you found is definitely a bit less expensive.  If you do get it, you will likely want to put some bar risers on it to make the position better for street riding (nothing to do with age or flexibility--when you're leaned too far forward, it is hard not to rest some of your body weight on the bars, which is not only hard on the wrists, it makes it difficult to make subtle control inputs).
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« Reply #138 on: July 29, 2010, 01:23:20 pm »

Ninja 250s are fun bikes.  Some folks "outgrow" them while others keep them for a really long time.  They hold their value well.  When my step-son's 07 250 was totaled last year a comparable was around $3k - it's still around $3K today.  He's currently riding an '87 Ninja 600 as would actually prefer going back to the 250 - he enjoyed it more.  It's a good bike for both around town and long trips ( see this article from a dedicated Hyabusa rider).  They have also been seen completing the Iron Butt Ralley.

Lots of folks love the SVs - both the 650 and 1000s.  Not my cup of tea, but I'm not the one buying it.  You'll have to judge the comfort factor for yourself.  From my experience, if the bike does not feel good sitting still, it won't feel good after 300 miles either.  Again, YMMV.  You might take a quick hop to one of the SV forums ( http://forum.svrider.com/ ) and see what they have to say.

Both bikes look like good choices.

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« Reply #139 on: July 29, 2010, 02:27:51 pm »

Posted for some fellow SV650 rider opinions so far the 2 replies say it should be okay!

As for handle bar risers are they universal or bike specific?
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