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« Reply #80 on: November 23, 2013, 07:24:30 pm »

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This is a report from the Ascari Circuit in Spain from Albert Escoda on the new KTM 1290 SuperDuke R. Escoda was at the launch with Jeremy McWilliams (see yesterday’s article). Escoda is very fast, indeed, and one of the few journalists who can try to hang on to McWilliams’ exhaust fumes (by his fingernails, and only on occasion).

We went over many of the technical details in an earlier article for your reference. Here is Albert’s report from the launch:

I will never forget the impression the original SuperDuke made on me when I first rode it in 2005. It seemed like a dream come true. A powerful street bike with the agility of a supermotard.  The ideal bike for me and my fellow “hooligans”. The fourth version of the SuperDuke is here, and it is not an evolution, but a completely new motorcycle with power and technology never before seen in the lineage.

It is a “beast”, but a controllable one.  Carefully designed to manage the massive 180 hp, KTM has incorporated a stiff, CroMo trellis frame that weighs only 20 pounds.  The single-sided swingarm is a beefy aluminum structure.  To cope with all the torque, the rear axle diameter is huge (55 mm).


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I eventually got my chance to sample the “power parts” model that features even more horsepower (192 hp), as well as the stiffer suspension tuning and slick tires. I had much more confidence both braking and accelerating on this bike, and it felt much more stable at race pace. Unfortunately, it started to rain during this session, and after ABS kicked in a couple of times I had to back off the pace.


Because a 180 hp naked bike is so... inadequate!  Lol

Read the rest and see more pics at the link.
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« Reply #81 on: November 24, 2013, 12:13:17 pm »

Maybe someday bikes like these will come with a disk you can download into your brain on how to ride them to the limit. Matrix-style!  Lol
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« Reply #82 on: April 25, 2014, 11:02:34 am »

Well, as this thread foreshadowed, the SuperDuke still hasn't arrived in showrooms (it was supposed to be here in March) so I went ahead and bought the BMW S1000R. 

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« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2014, 08:02:29 pm »

KTM is out and about doing factory demo rides, now that the Supercross season is over, and today they were in Murfeesboro, Tn.  ( Scheduled for Louisville, Ky. @ Commonwealth Saturday ). I rode the Super Duke.....

I only got 25 mins on it, around town, under demo ride conditions, no high speed runs, only a few turns, but....


it is the best bike I believe I have ever ridden


Smooth, easy to ride, light weight, powerful, comfortable, grin from ear to ear the whole time......

Mother of God....I WANT ONE!!

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« Reply #84 on: May 18, 2014, 05:30:17 pm »

So I finally got the call that the bike I had a deposit on was finally in. I went down to the dealership to take it for a test ride.

First off, looking at them in person, the black looks OK but there is no way I could stomach the orange scheme. I have nothing against the orange, but the white tail section is a complete aesthetic nightmare. On the black, if I were to buy the bike, I would have to have the tail subframe powder coated orange to match the main frame. As it is the look is unbalanced.
Otherwise, the looks of the bike work for me.
The dash is phenomenal. The main cluster has the usual tach, speedo and gear indicator, but also a real fuel gauge, which is nice. On the left is a data screen that is customizable to display the elements you care about in a nice easy to read layout. You can pick five fields for your "Favorites" screen from a range of choices like fuel range countdown clock, ambient air temp, avg speed, avg MPG, and so on. It was truly easy to configure and gave tons of info. KTM absolutely got tha info center right.

Sitting in the bike, the seat is firm and wide with the pegs directly below the center of body mass, right where they should be. The bars were too close for me, giving the bike a BMW GS- like feel, which simply doesn't work for me. I like a certain amount of forward lean and with my long arms I was absolutely bolt upright. Interestingly, the bar clamp is mounted in slots, so sliding the bars a half inch forward is easy. I'd need another inch and a half, though, so even swapping to a straighter bar wouldn't ale it perfect for me. Live able, perhaps, but not perfect.
For most riders it would be good, though, and I like that KTM did design in the adjustability in the bar clamp.

Out on the road, the bike was fun. It wheelies anytime you want, and lots of the time when you don't even think you asked. The bike has wheelie limiters, so it's never too much, but does induce a grin. The steering is very light. I think I'd have to lower the front end a MM or two to get more front weight bias, but that's a simple adjustment.
I've gotten spoiled by the quick shifter and slipper clutch on my BMW.  The lack of a quick shifter is kind of a bummer on the KTM, but I understand how hard it is to get them right for a big twin. The slipper clutch on the KTM was a bit disappointing, but that may be because the bike was fresh out of the crate and would become better with use.

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« Reply #85 on: May 18, 2014, 05:37:54 pm »

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« Reply #86 on: May 18, 2014, 06:19:38 pm »

Sorry about the choppy sentence structure in the previous post.  I typed it up on my phone.

Anyhow, back to the review.  I should add that the Superduke 1290R is a $17,000 motorbike, so it should give off an air of quality construction, and it does.  Most of the bits on it are nicely made and finished, as you should expect from a bike that costs that much.  The only really clunky-looking piece is the exhaust end can, which has all the appeal of a toaster oven.  It isn't as horrible, as say, a Z1000 muffler, but it isn't good.  Definitely tack on the extra bucks for the available Akrapovich slip-on.

Unlike on the RC8 the pegs aren't adjustable, but they're nicely made and in the right spot anyway, so I can't complain.  

Back to the riding experience.  The bike feels quick, but honestly, what I've been riding is a complete rocket, so I wasn't overwhelmed by the speed of the KTM.  In fact, it appears that KTM has been overselling the bike's power and underreporting its weight, according to the magazine reviews.  Dyno tests have reported a range from 150-160RWHP, which is plenty impressive but really no better than the V4 Tuono or the S1000R.  That said, the KTM is a giant freaking V twin, so it carries a ton of torque down low.  I rolled on from idle at 30mph to see how the bike handled to low RPMs with load, and it doesn't shake, shudder, or complain.  It simply speeds up, which is far better than the Tuono's bitter self-destructive feeling at anything below 5k when power is applied.
The Superduke just gets to the business of lifting the from wheel and scooting down the road, no drama, no fuss.  KTM really got that difficult part done correctly.   Bigok

With big motors, heat can often be a real issue, but I didn't notice it, even though the day was warm and I was in jeans.  Admittedly I didn't sit at any red lights for any length of time, but the simple fact that the engine so so enshrouded and in the breeze should keep heat manageable.

The brakes seemed good, but besides a few little stop pies I didn't have a chance to test them out much.  They use the same Bosch ABS as the BMW S1000RR I'm used to but have a very different feel.  Not bad, just different, which surprises me.  

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