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« on: September 26, 2013, 10:29:08 pm »

Interesting....

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At the EICMA show last year, BMW Motorrad announced that it would make another air-cooled model, in order to commemorate the 90 years that the German OEM has been producing two-wheelers.

Expected to be the production version of the company’s LoRider concept, we got our first taste of what BMW had in store for us with the BMW Concept Ninety — which had its retro goodness co-developed with America’s own Roland Sands.

Now seemingly ready for a true production model, BMW Motorrad has been caught testing the BMW NineT street bike inside the Lake Garda region in Italy.


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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2013, 10:53:13 pm »

Oooh, I dig that.  Why doth though tempt me so...
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2013, 07:59:41 am »

:popcorn:

Tempting.  If I were in the market for such a bike, the Griso would difficult to beat for my wants and needs.
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 08:23:20 am »

Hawt!  BMW has a lot of material to do a retro model, it's a wonder they haven't tapped those roots before.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2013, 10:13:21 am »

I like this color.

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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2013, 01:13:54 pm »


:popcorn:

Tempting.  If I were in the market for such a bike, the Griso would difficult to beat for my wants and needs.


Funny when i saw it i 1st thought of a Griso with saggy jugs.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2013, 11:03:46 am »


I like this color.




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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2013, 07:34:07 pm »

That is great.  Please make this.  I want to see them on the road.
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2013, 08:38:45 pm »


I like this color.




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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2013, 12:38:17 pm »

This bike has now been unveiled -- see links below.  It looks like the rear subframe by the passenger seat is completely removable, which frankly looks a bit extreme.  

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/bmw-ninet-unveiled/23764.html
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/bmw-ninet-specs-and-pictures/23765.html

The bike is also up on the BMW US website, though I did not see a price.  And now it's officially "nineT" with a lower-case "n", which means it's  being marketed to hipsters.  





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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2013, 02:56:40 pm »

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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2013, 04:06:18 pm »

This very well maybe my next bike.

Has there been an annoucement on if this is a limited offering only, and cost?

I need to wait until late 2014/2015.
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2013, 04:27:54 pm »



I need to wait until late 2014/2015.


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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2013, 05:03:18 pm »

Are they pointing to the FD oil drain and fill locations on pre-2008 units?  

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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2013, 05:09:33 pm »



It looks like the rear subframe by the passenger seat is completely removable, which frankly looks a bit extreme.  



looks neat, but then no tail/brake lamp or turn signals?
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2013, 10:09:46 pm »

I like it. I do wonder if those wheels require inner tubes.
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2013, 10:19:17 pm »

Good question.  I don't see the use of BMW's tubeless spoke wheels which are use on the GS.  These spoke wheels appear to need the use of tubes.




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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2013, 02:58:50 am »

I bet they are tubeless. Didn't the Duc Sport Classic have tubeless wire wheels?

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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2013, 11:43:50 am »

These tires have tubes.  There is a high-rise Akrapovik exhaust option, too.  I think the Akrapovik, knobby tires ala GS Adventure and bar end mirrors are all that would be needed to make this my next bike.  Seriously considering putting down a deposit...
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2013, 02:56:10 pm »

looooooooove it!  Might be a difficult choice between the new air/water cooled R1200GS or this RnineT.  Why doth tempt me so!?
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2013, 01:05:43 pm »

Interesting, I just compared the new NineT to the R1200R and the Moto Guzzi Griso 8V.  On paper, I am very impressed with the NineT.  

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BMW NineT:  110

BMW R1200R:  109

MotoGuzzi Griso:  110


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BMW NineT:  88

BMW R1200R:  85

MotoGuzzi Griso:  80  

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BMW NineT:  430

BMW R1200R:  437

MotoGuzzi Griso:  489


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BMW NineT:  4.8 gal

BMW R1200R:  4.6 gal

MotoGuzzi Griso:    4.4 gal


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BMW NineT:  87.4

BMW R1200R:  84.4

MotoGuzzi Griso:  89
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2013, 01:16:51 pm »

I like some of the factory accessory options so far which includes carbon fiber bits and luggage.  As follows would be the first three things I'd add to one.


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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2013, 04:34:09 pm »

It's a great looking bike with some really nice touches. I think it would be a great competitor to the Monster (now that it's turned ugly) and Griso. I imagine that a lot of R owners and potential R buyers will be thinking twice about it.

You know it's just a styling exercise when they put a traditional front end on a boxer...what are the natives saying???  Lol

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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2013, 04:35:30 pm »


You know it's just a styling exercise when they put a traditional front end on a boxer...what are the natives saying???  Lol

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At least it will most likely have better road feel through the bars.   couch
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At least it will most likely have better road feel through the bars.   couch


 Lol

I always really liked the telelever and found that it made rough surfaces really nice. I miss that now that I have the Tuono.

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It's a great looking bike with some really nice touches. I think it would be a great competitor to the Monster (now that it's turned ugly) and Griso. I imagine that a lot of R owners and potential R buyers will be thinking twice about it.

You know it's just a styling exercise when they put a traditional front end on a boxer...what are the natives saying???  Lol

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You know Robert is thinking about trading his Monster in for one of these, don't you?


Good because I really, really, really want to ride one.  Bigok

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You know Robert is thinking about trading his Monster in for one of these, don't you?


fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck fuck...

And yes.  It's rattling around in there.  
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fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck fuck...

And yes.  It's rattling around in there.  



Just think of the instant $1000 savings if you made the deal in the next month or so.    Thumbsup
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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2013, 11:08:09 pm »

LOL!  I'm betting that bike's going to be $17k...
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« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2013, 08:37:01 am »


LOL!  I'm betting that bike's going to be $17k...


My guess is somewhere between $15,000 and $16,000.


Isn't an R1200R something like $14,000?
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My guess is somewhere between $15,000 and $16,000.


Isn't an R1200R something like $14,000?



Yes.  $14,100.00

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« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2013, 10:27:24 am »

Really cool looking. Kudos to BMW. But... boxer motors are not known for producing the best engine sound around. Um... yah know sounds like... a sewing machine. I guess aftermarket exhaust would help.  Razz

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« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2013, 11:00:09 am »


  I had a R1150R and I can't wait to demo a NineT.  I'm still lusting after a wet head RT.


I can certainly understand why.  I can't wait to test a new wet head.
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Really cool looking. Kudos to BMW. But... boxer motors are not known for producing the best engine sound around. Um... yah know sounds like... a sewing machine. I guess aftermarket exhaust would help.  Razz






A boxer motor with a good free-flowing exhaust sounds amazing.   Inlove


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« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2013, 12:01:52 pm »

Yes, they do sound great!   Bigok

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My guess is somewhere between $15,000 and $16,000.


Isn't an R1200R something like $14,000?



The product information bulletin BMW sent to the dealers says it will be priced below the R12R Classic.  The cool accessories won't be cheap though.
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A boxer motor with a good free-flowing exhaust sounds amazing.   Inlove





Damn, that does sound nice.  Waaaaaay better then my stock R1200ST.  For that I'm thinking Staintune headers (unless I can find cheaper ones, but still good quality) and a GPR slip on.  
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« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2016, 09:47:03 am »

Stopped in at my local BMW dealer last week and found a barely used 2015 R NineT.  I couldn't help myself.  Traded in my F700GS and brought home this black beauty.  The torque and sound is very impressive.  Riding position is perfect.  Despite having ABS, it feels very bare bones and visceral, which I love.  

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Stopped in at my local BMW dealer last week and found a barely used 2015 R NineT.  I couldn't help myself.  Traded in my F700GS and brought home this black beauty.  The torque and sound is very impressive.  Riding position is perfect.  Despite having ABS, it feels very bare bones and visceral, which I love.  

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Congratulations!  Despite the quirky trying-to-hard name, I really love this thing.


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« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2016, 12:53:12 pm »

Look at you getting all fancy....congratulations Alex.
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Now if they only made the Scram. kit retroactive.


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« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2016, 03:11:17 pm »

Alex, I'm curious.  I know you've had a few Triumphs in the past.  Did you look at the new Thruxton R?  It's pushing a lot of the right buttons for me.  

While I'm not going to pull the trigger on either, I did test ride an R nine-T a while back and just loved it.  So, I have played though the mental game of what-if and believe it would difficult for me to not get the new Thruxton R.  I'd love to know if you tested it and what your thoughts are on the bike.  

Thanks.
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« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2016, 08:23:24 am »

I sat on a new 1200cc Thruxton, but did not test ride one.  It feels generally smaller and thinner, with lower bars.  The Ohlins on the Thruxton-R is very likely better than the NineT supsension.  Also, the Triumph has more tech, with ride-by-wire and traction control.  Surprisingly the Triumph, despite being liquid cooled, produces less torque than the brawny oil/air-cooled boxer twin.  Further NineT advantage: stock Akropovic (sounds awesome), shaft drive, and one gallon more fuel on board.  The Thrux is likely more refined in engine where the BMW feels raw (in a good way).

For me, the BMW dealer is along my commute to work, where the Triumph dealer is nearly an hour away.  Also, after having 4 Triumphs in a row, it was time to brexit the brand and try something new.  IMO the NineT, particularly with the brushed aluminum tank option, spanks the Thruxton in the looks dept alone.  It is a modern work of art where the Thruxton definitely looks like a reproduction of a past work.

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And that very modern philosophy that explains the Thruxton’s ultra-refined engine and ride modes is precisely where it splits from the RnineT. Forget for a minute the minor variations in the Brembo brakes (the BMW’s are stronger) and the transmissions (the Triumph’s is more precise) and the multitude of other little topics on which these two motorcycles differ. Both are capable, entertaining, high-quality pieces of equipment: It’s the attitude that separates them.

The Thruxton R is a civil, English gentleman. His hair is just so, tie always straight. There is muscle to flex when goaded, but the response in the end will always be a tilt of the head and a hand gesture downward with palms facing the floor. “Steady on, old chap.” The RnineT, however, never wants to calm down. In a drag race the two are dead even, but the nineT feels more strained and raucous when stretching its legs. Blip the throttle at a stoplight and it twists quickly and snorts, like a steed shaking a fly off its ear. That connection to the animal inside the mechanism is where these two are the most different.


quote from http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/bmw-rninet-vs-triumph-thruxton-r#page-16

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« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2016, 08:29:12 am »


it was time to brexit the brand and try something new.  




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That's rich.  



Thanks for the feedback.  Given ergonomics, fuel capacity, etc... if you're going to have one bike the NineT would be high on the list.  Perhaps if it were a second bike, the Thruxton R could start to make more sense.  

My local BMW dealer had a left over demo bike they were selling for under 11.  I kept trying to avoid eye contact with it.  Lol
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« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2016, 09:03:14 am »

Oh that that sounds like a good deal on a NineT!   Inlove

In my test riding experience, the bike that reminds me most of the NineT is the Griso.  The Griso has a similar brawny feel to the engine, but is longer and less lively.  
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« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2016, 09:18:05 am »

9T update.  It's still using some oil, so I have to keep watch.  Also need to keep extra watch on air pressure - I've never had to fill tires as often as this bike and handling suffers quickly with losses in pressure.

Adds have been minimal - Garmin connector, heated gear connector, Dart flyscreen, Givi tanklock ring.

Bike as packed for ESTN.
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This past week I finally added a H&B luggage rack and Givi adaptor to get my V46 mounted.  
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