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« on: July 31, 2014, 11:21:40 pm »

So either talk me into or out of it.

I've got about 3k in mods in the FZ. The local Triumph dealer has a XC demo. He's computing a delta for me.

I love the FZ. But it is really hard to drive smoothly. Yes, I had the ECU reflashed which helped. But while it's fast it's no longer enjoyable for me. I would much rather have a lightweight bike which could go anywhere comfortably and would be smooth.

I wouldn't want a BMW. There are no dealers near me. The Versys and V Strom look nice, but the Trumpet seems better.

Am I crazy and is there something bad I would be setting myself up for? Or is this a good bike?
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 05:21:24 am »




I love the FZ. ..But while it's fast it's no longer enjoyable for me. I would much rather have a lightweight bike which could go anywhere comfortably and would be smooth...





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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2014, 07:49:06 am »




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DO IT!  You won't regret it.

My friend and riding buddy has one and he absolutely loves it.



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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2014, 08:20:12 am »

Do you plan on riding poorly maintained dirt roads with it? If not, the 21" front wheel may not be the best choice for you. Personally, I don't like a 21" front wheel for carving twisties, but a 19" is OK. I would do an extended test ride and form your own opinion on the 21" front. I demo'd a regular Tiger 800 and it was a very nice bike.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2014, 11:34:56 am »


Do you plan on riding poorly maintained dirt roads with it? If not, the 21" front wheel may not be the best choice for you. Personally, I don't like a 21" front wheel for carving twisties, but a 19" is OK. I would do an extended test ride and form your own opinion on the 21" front. I demo'd a regular Tiger 800 and it was a very nice bike.


I rented a regular one a couple of years ago to do the Slimey Crud Run.  Loved everything about it except one of my foot got a little hot.  Can't remember which one.  Don't know if it be a deal breaker.  Just enough torque everywhere and love the riding position.
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2014, 02:35:25 pm »

If the fueling is the only thing that bothers you about the FZ, spend a few bucks and get a Power Commander installed and get the bike dyno tuned.

It'll cure thoe fueling problems and save the baby from being thrown out with the bathwater.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2014, 02:58:24 pm »

I guess it really comes down to how much disposable income you have.  You've already spent a significant amount in modifications.  And we know that $$ in does not equate to $$ out when selling.  You pretty much just give away your mods when selling.  From just reading the magazine Adventure comparison tests, the Triumph pretty much comes out on the bottom every time.  The KTM and BMW are consistently on the top.  However, I don't doubt that the Triumph is a good bike.  
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2014, 04:24:20 pm »

Oh no, your stock price is going down with me.  Headscratch Brownie points quickly diminishing.  Sad

Seriously, two different bikes for sure. If the sport factor, HP loss and $ out the window doesn't bother you then why not? I'd be a bit worried about getting a demo though.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2014, 06:16:26 pm »

Do you plan on riding poorly maintained dirt roads with it? If not, the 21" front wheel may not be the best choice for you. Personally, I don't like a 21" front wheel for carving twisties, but a 19" is OK. I would do an extended test ride and form your own opinion on the 21" front. I demo'd a regular Tiger 800 and it was a very nice bike.
Ditto. Loved the non-XC I tested and it fit me perfectly. I'm planning to replace the feejer next year and this is currently at the top of my list.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2014, 10:00:37 pm »

The media has little love for Triumph.  As a Trophy owner, I don't understand why.  Love is irrational, ride what makes you smile.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2014, 01:12:29 pm »

I say don't do it unless you can get your money out of the FZ-09.  You've thrown lots of money at it...can you not fix it? Maybe change the gearing so it isn't so frenetic? Taller gearing may help make it more of a tourer...

I'd at least try the gearing change before dumping it for a Tiger, although I'm sure you'll be happy regardless.  Good problems to have.

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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2014, 01:30:58 pm »


I say don't do it unless you can get your money out of the FZ-09.  You've thrown lots of money at it...can you not fix it? Maybe change the gearing so it isn't so frenetic? Taller gearing may help make it more of a tourer...

I'd at least try the gearing change before dumping it for a Tiger, although I'm sure you'll be happy regardless.  Good problems to have.

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I am waiting back for trade in quote from the dealer. It's taken him a awhile so I assume it will not be in my favor. I'm not going to throw money away. I might look into a throttle tamer. As it is I can lift the front wheel with a quick 1/4" turn of the throttle. As a young man I would have enjoyed this. Now it is as annoying as having a high-strung dog jumping around in the back seat of your car.
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2014, 03:03:36 pm »




I am waiting back for trade in quote from the dealer. It's taken him a awhile so I assume it will not be in my favor. I'm not going to throw money away.


Used market is soft and thick, and most dealers have exceeded their threshold for used inventory this season. At one point this season we were at 51 used units (company record, by many), still closer to that than we prefer, currently. Trade offers have been thin, especially for off brand units; consignments have been closed to all but deploying military with BMW models.

If you want to trade, start stretching - your ankles aren't that far away!  Lol
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2014, 04:02:08 pm »




Used market is soft and thick, and most dealers have exceeded their threshold for used inventory this season. At one point this season we were at 51 used units (company record, by many), still closer to that than we prefer, currently. Trade offers have been thin, especially for off brand units; consignments have been closed to all but deploying military with BMW models.

If you want to trade, start stretching - your ankles aren't that far away!  Lol


eBay.

There is someone out in the ethereal vapor of the interweb that is looking for *exactly* a bike like I have to offer. Right now I am thinking of just buying the Tiger and selling the FZ myself. Or I could just keep all three. Cash is king and I can be patient.
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2014, 01:24:31 pm »

Update:

There is a 99.997% chance I will be buying the Tiger tonight. No trade on the FZ-09. As expected, he couldn't offer what I wanted. However several other dealers contacted him with People wanting the Yamaha. He will forward the names to me.

All is good. Expect pictures soon.
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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2014, 06:57:25 pm »

I am now the owner of a 2014 Triumph Tiger 800 XC ABS!
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2014, 07:03:08 pm »


I am now the owner of a 2014 Triumph Tiger 800 XC ABS!


You know that old cliche about pictures and stuff, right?  Bigok
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2014, 07:14:05 pm »




You know that old cliche about pictures and stuff, right?  Bigok


I pick it up on Saturday. There are some free extras they will be installing: heated grips, skid plate, crash bars and a adjustable touring screen.

As soon as it gets home I will post pics!
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2014, 07:22:02 pm »

Congratulations on the bike! Comparo coming?
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2014, 08:15:03 pm »

I am now the owner of a 2014 Triumph Tiger 800 XC ABS!
Congrats! Looking forward to the reviews.
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