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« on: August 04, 2014, 02:37:15 pm »

Bought an 03 DRZ400 with 2700 KM on it and have added some bits to get the bike ready for a trip to Baja, Mexico. Been reading too many trip reports and so have decided to take the plunge.

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hand guards
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Smaller rear sprocket for a bit better highway performance
Seahorse locking top case
Moto Billet rear rack
Clarke 4 gallon tank
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Home made trail jack ( an aluminium cane conversion)
2 litre Touratech fuel bottle for a bit more reserve
Air Hawk and sheepskin
Cheapo side bags Revised and larger bags.
Baja Almanac Maps
Radiator Guards
IMS Footpegs
IMS Shifter

Still to come:
Adventure worthy tires and HD tubes - still pondering which ones



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Gear to Come:
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2014, 02:45:33 pm »

Lookin' good...wondering how roomy that is for you with that bag on there? I always thought the DRZ was a bit tight to start with?
 I am picking up an older XT350 tomorrow...intended to find a dead one for an XS650 engine swap, but this one is a decent runner for cheap with not too many km, so I am going to enjoy it and commute on it. Still thinking DR650 for the ADV Yukon ride in June.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2014, 02:47:26 pm »

Pretty comfy actually. But the proof will be a shake down ride later this month.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2014, 03:00:12 pm »

Nice! As the former owner of two DRZs, I would suggest doing the "3x3" airbox mod, installing a jet kit, and find a lighter and freer flowing exhaust.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2014, 07:10:04 pm »


Nice! As the former owner of two DRZs, I would suggest doing the "3x3" airbox mod, installing a jet kit, and find a lighter and freer flowing exhaust.


Maybe, but I have heard you give up mileage for horsepower via this mod. If it was just for rocking in the woods around here I would, but travelling Baja requires attention to range. So far I am thinking of keeping it stock.
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2014, 08:33:18 pm »

I don't recall a mileage change with the mods but I haven't had the DRZ for  a few years now. I think my Clarke tank was good for 200 miles of dual sport use. Deep sand will hurt that of course. The bike is definitely snappier and has more extended top end power with the mods. You could keep it stock for the trip then try it once you get back and compare numbers.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2014, 10:45:49 am »

Pretty much what I was thinking. It is running great right now and ok with the power delivery. I am going solo to Baja, so don't plan on doing the really gnarly/isolated rides alone.
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2014, 05:43:58 pm »

Why are you planning on installing Harley Davidson tubes?    Headscratch
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2014, 09:56:47 pm »

DR-Zs are bullet proof! I'd go with UHD tubes, though that may be overkill if you won't be running in rocks.  I just HATE getting flats on the trail. With a UHD tube it's practically like having a spare tire inside your tire. Wink

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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2014, 10:35:32 pm »

Honestly I wouldn't bother with heavy duty tubes. Regular ones are lighter and pack smaller. Every single tube failure I've had would have taken out either kind of tube.  Valve stems tear from running low pressure in soft terrain, screws, nails and large thorns puncture even the toughest tubes. Even at the low pressure I run I've never gotten a snake bit puncture on rocky terrain.  I've tried all brands and varieties that I can get my hands on. We're now sold on using cheap tubes, carrying spares, and patch kits with extra glue.

I won't make any suggestions on tires. I only run three kinds. Sticky street, slicks, or non-D.O.T knobbies.  Those big front wheels kind of confuse me. Lol

Sounds like a fun trip. Should be a good bike for it.  Probably about the best compromise going.  A bit heavier than my wr250x but should be better on the highway.  I expect to do a Mexico trip one day when my Spanish gets good enough, but that will likely be on the KLR.

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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2014, 11:23:07 pm »

Heavy gauge tubes are a good bit more packing mass, especially pre slimed... some find greater equity in them after a few field changes with standards.

You may find the seat bag quite intrusive after your first steep downhill...

If you can live with the width, lower your load with larger panniers, wolfman makes a couple of nice kits, especially the rocky mtn.

Two things that made a huge difference for me were in more technical environments were the suspention (Jon at Moto-Pro in Seattle/Woodinville WA is a master), and changing how I carry multi-day loads. I run soft pans on the rear and on the tank, and my tool bag on the front fender. The only thing above my seat line is the 2 gal fuel cube. Lower COG = far more stability + easier lifting = far few drops and far less overall fatigue.

On my KLX250 I went full Muzzy, air box mod, re-jet... with the 250 I need to keep it spun up anyway so more peak at higher revs is a good solution in this case. With my DR650 I stayed stock to keep the low end where that motor was smoother. Air box/exhaust mods are a coin toss - gaining peak at the cost of low end isn't what everyone needs from a thumper depending on how they use it, IMO...

This is a great cheap seat mod, that wont pop, to add more seat comfort than you might imagine possible http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JMK7N8/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=40044028087&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4114548663735489209&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_50fnom1ioo_e

Favorite tires tried so far are the MT21's, would try the K60 Scouts if they had a proper fit.

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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2014, 03:47:06 pm »

After some riding, I have revised my bags and ordered larger saddlebags and a small bag for my tent. Lots of room for a folding cooler. Also added radiator guards, IMS footpegs, IMS shifter, RAM mount.

Now looking at mid April for the trip as a work project has intruded.

For those looking for maps of Baja, the Baja California Almanac and National Geographic Adventure maps are the way to go. The NGA maps are great quality and waterproof. I will also use Baja Navigator for my GPS from LBMaps.

Still debating on tires. But I will either go with a Mitas rear and TKC front or go with Kenda 270 and TKC front. Those should get me from here to Baja and back into the US. From there I can replace easily. Quite interested in the Mitas and they ship from Vancouver.

As far as tubes go, I am going with smaller regular tubes and likely filled with Ride On Sealant to start. In Mexico there is a shop called a llantera. They fix tires and tubes with an old fashioned vulcanizing patch. So on the trail, you swap out for a new tube and take the holed tube to the llantera and for about $3 you get a virtually new tube and no worries about patches letting go in the heat. These shops are in almost every small town. So I will carry two rear tubes and a front. And a patch kit of course, just in case.
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2014, 08:48:25 pm »

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Still debating on tires. But I will either go with a Mitas rear and TKC front or go with Kenda 270 and TKC front. Those should get me from here to Baja and back into the US. From there I can replace easily. Quite interested in the Mitas and they ship from Vancouver.
 


Wich Mitas? The E07? I run that tire on both my DRZ400 and My Versys 1000. I love it.
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2014, 10:37:06 pm »

The 07 Mitas for sure.  Bigok On the DRZ they should be amazing.  Thumbsup

Added a Corbin seat. Wolfman Side Racks. Radiator guards and now debating hard side cases ( Seahorse ) vs Wolfman type soft. I know that soft are better off road when you are going to crash. The hard case seahorse have a wee lock that helps when you are solo and have to head to the loo at a gas stop.

Otherwise bike will see new wheel bearings over the winter and and a new chain. Good to go. A bit of bone for me is I am being cut back, pay wise, at my job. So... will have to see.  6 months and counting. Looks like I have 5 weeks to make the trip.
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2014, 11:25:28 pm »

Get rim locks installed if they aren't already on the DR-Z and you won't have to worry about airing down and ripping a valve stem. I carry a std front tube as a spare rather than a UHD but swear by the UHDs I use. In 7 years of riding off-road I've given my spare tube to another rider in need 3 times, and provided moral support to several more riders as they changed a std weight tube out while I kicked back and had a smoke.  I haven't needed to do replace a tube in the field myself, yet... Wink

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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2014, 08:53:35 pm »


The 07 Mitas for sure.  Bigok On the DRZ they should be amazing.  Thumbsup


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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2015, 12:18:25 pm »

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Just about done. The Mitas E07 rear and Pirelli MT21 front tire will go on this weekend. Race Tech rear upgrade is mounted as is a smaller rear sprocket. Curious to see how it works. Heading out riding this Sunday.

The bags are Swiss Army waterproof, rubber rucksacks that work great and hold a ton. Here it is packed up with everything I need to camp and room to spare. Cheap too at $19.95 each!

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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2015, 12:42:01 pm »


The 07 Mitas for sure.  Bigok On the DRZ they should be amazing.  Thumbsup

Added a Corbin seat. Wolfman Side Racks. Radiator guards and now debating hard side cases ( Seahorse ) vs Wolfman type soft. I know that soft are better off road when you are going to crash. The hard case seahorse have a wee lock that helps when you are solo and have to head to the loo at a gas stop. ..............................


you are going to be by yourself, correct??  so are you really going to put yourself in an off road situation where you might crash.
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2015, 12:44:12 pm »

Looking good. Can those side bags flop around and interfer( EEK!) with the back wheel/chain?
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you are going to be by yourself, correct??  so are you really going to put yourself in an off road situation where you might crash.


I will be riding by myself. Crashing is inevitable when you ride offroad, IMHO and in my experience. To what degree or extent one has some control. But I never intend to crash, nor do I ignore mitigating crashing as much as possible. I have a SPOT, great gear and caution born of many past days in pain and recuperation/contemplation. Yet, and perhaps disturbingly so, I don't let it dominate my plans and ride with enjoyment and a positive attitude. I have been known to get carried away in the moment, but those moments need to be few and far between when you ride solo.
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2015, 01:00:25 pm »


Looking good. Can those side bags flop around and interfer( EEK!) with the back wheel/chain?


They are attached to a Wofman rack and cannot, short of rack failure enter or interfere with the rear wheel. There are a couple of superfluous straps in that photo that have since been trimmed. An extra RokStrap on each back has them tight and not moving while loaded.  
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They are attached to a Wofman rack and cannot, short of rack failure enter or interfere with the rear wheel. There are a couple of superfluous straps in that photo that have since been trimmed. An extra RokStrap on each back has them tight and not moving while loaded.  


Well, your potential for crashing went way done. Now worry about riding and judgement.

In my dirt bike days there were rides where I couldn't start the bike without falling over. OK, gross exaggeration. Then there were days when I could do anything on the bike and not fall over. Slight exaggeration.
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2015, 07:27:44 pm »


...The bags are Swiss Army waterproof, rubber rucksacks that work great and hold a ton. Here it is packed up with everything I need to camp and room to spare. Cheap too at $19.95 each!

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Please tell me more.  Where could one get these for this price and what are the features?
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I bought them here
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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2015, 11:47:04 am »

Which Seahorse topcase is that and how did you mount it?
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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2015, 12:10:10 pm »

The 540 case with metal locks. It mounts with the existing tailpiece toolkit holes with slightly longer bolts. This is part of how the Moto Billet rear rack mounts, and why I chose it. Large 2 inch steel washers to reinforce the plastic of the case and distribute the weight. Very solid and the simple locks the case comes with, deter thieves.
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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2015, 12:54:51 pm »

Jim, instead of worrying about tubes, what's the deal with the Michelin Bib Mousse inserts, or maybe Tire Balls?

I've never had any experience with either, and it's been like 1989 since I owned a dirtbike, so.....

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/5174/i/michelin-bib-mousse-flat-proof-competition-foam-tube

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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2015, 04:22:27 pm »

Never heard of tire balls before  :head scratch:   But with the Mousse, if it were just off road, I would go there for sure. But any sustained speed and they overheat and disintegrate. Teams in Dakar change them daily as they start to break down or so I have read.  

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I would just do the rear.
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