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« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2010, 07:39:46 pm »




The K1200RS/GT feels like a bloated pig wallowing in the mud compared to the ZZR. Plus the ZZR can kick sand in the face of the K1200RS all day long on the street or the track...

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« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2010, 09:17:24 am »

The BMW has tele-lever front suspension that will spoil you is very effective.
I kinda took it for granted it until I took my (fairly new to me) Ninja 650 to a track day.  The first time I hammered the front brake coming into a turn I had to go "Holy SH**, I gotta allow for all this geometry-changing-nose-dive!!"

The BMW has a 2 position seat which is nice on long days (though I'd rather have highway pegs).

You can improve the weather protection of the RS by putting on the windshield side wings (not sure what they're actually called) of the GT.  I'm told they go on and off in a cpl minutes.
You can also put on a touring windshield.  Mine had one when I bought it.  I didn't like the helmet buffetting (I'm 5'6) so I bought a used stock screen and won't go back.  Guess I should sell the touring screen.

The weight is only an issue in very technical locals.

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« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2010, 10:37:39 am »



   1. These bikes eat tires....FR and RR every 6K

   2. They need that cruise control because only mighty Franz at the test track can turn that throttle for very long.

   3. They are a PIA to change oil/filter  and air cleaner on. (but super easy to do rear tires which is good because they use those)

   4. No up/down adjustability on brake or clutch lever, nor for front fork spring/damping that rider can do.

   5. Miserable turn signal system and goofy horn button actuation...especially if you had other bikes.

   6. brakes are terrific but are very weird to get used to and make all kinds of weird mechanical /electrical sounds. But, the best pad wear you ever saw on any bike!

   Just  plain Euro-Quirky but....Oh a buttery smooth motor right where you use the power. Plenty fast enough. You never need a rainsuit if you set it up as a GT as rain just goes past you. The faster you go on the bike, the more eerily quiet it gets...very aero. You keep checking valves and they stay put. You WILL put a rear main seal in the bike around 50K....But most bike owners will never RIDE their bike 50K from other brands! You will and that tells you that you enjoy riding it enuf to do the miles.

 Finally; ask Ack535 which bike he would rather ride from Wmstn, MI to Tucson....A K-bike or a ZZR. I think he will say the BMW every time. And yes EVERYTHING about them is expensive but lasts a long time(except tires).
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« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2010, 11:40:40 pm »

Rebooting yet again...

I'm coming off a '99 Connie onto an '03 K1200RS found at Hermy's Cycle (Port Clinton, PA).  

My initial reaction from the first test ride was to turn around after about three miles of wind blast and say "this is not my bike".  This despite the fact the seating position and overall ergos fit me like a custom suit.  

I jumped on an R1100RT and didn't make it the full three miles.  What a sewing machine!  As I said the sales guy, "this bike feels like I'm permanently riding on a rumble strip".  Part of the route was on a narrow country road and part of the route was on PA Rt 61, where I could twist the throttle.  No matter what I did... rumble strip.  

So I stared hard at the KRS, went back out again, and... bought the bike.  At idle, the bike rumbles and rattles like a diesel.  But twist the grip and... turbine smooth.  The particular KRS I rode (and bought) has wind deflectors from the GT (adds a lip around the tupperware where the grip end of the bars go), GT mirrors (the RS mirrors are tiny and would, IMHO, embarrass a Lambretta), and an Ohlin rear shock.  Once I re-arranged my thinking about being back in the wind, I found the bike was, in fact, very much my bike.  The power range allows either keeping the engine wound up and really flying or loafing along in 5th or 6th and then winding in some throttle to get a move-on.  Handling is, to use a motorcycle review cliche, confidence-inspiring.  

Much has been made of the switches.  Yes, they are not like the UJM's switches.  So what.  They're self-canceling while rolling.  If I was to pick on one dumb choice for a switch, it'd be the starter.  At least for me, there's no "flick of the thumb to start".  But, uh, how often does one hit the starter when riding.  And a lot less with the KRS' starter, I'll bet.  

The throttle doesn't seem overly stiff to me.  I use the cruise control but mostly because I know where running over "10 over" is going to mean points and money out the door.  In conditions where the traffic speed varies or it's time to play, no worries.  

To date, a week after taking delivery, I've managed two 150+ mile rides in varying conditions, plus the 75 mile ride home from the dealer (slab all the way).  The saddle is comfortable.  The riding position works for me.  In short, the bike works.  

What would (or will) I change?  The headlight, particularly the low beam, sucks.  I'm astounded by how ineffective it is.  It's just plain dim.  High beam is better but it's still easy to over-run the beam at about 50 MPH(!).  I'll start by installing a DDM Tuning low beam HID replacement.  If that plays well, I'll do the same for the high beam.  

The horn... Somewhere in Lambretta-land, people are laughing themselves sick over conning BMW into buying up reject horns.  Think of the old Dodge Roadrunner "meep, meep" horn.  Now cut the volume by half and raise the note an octave.  Somewhere in Lambretta-land...  The exact replacement is uncertain at the moment, as the best choice (Stebel Nautilus air horn) is a true beast to install.  But the Lambretta reject goat's bleat horns will go.  

As the weather gets colder, a new, bigger windscreen will be mounted.  Whose windscreen is also uncertain, although there are only a few good choices.  

The shifter lever is simply not adjustable beyond "adjustment A" and "adjustment B".  Neither works well with my Combat Touring boots.  I'm looking into options.  

The brake light strikes me as less than fully visible.  I'm looking into a good LED add-on.  

Nonetheless, I'm quite happy to dream up any excuse to put in the key, push the starter, and ride this bike.  In fact, it's been a while since a bike brought me to wearing a shit-eating grin while motivating down the road.  I figure that's good news.   Bigsmile
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